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Truly, never cease to amaze Chris, truly amazing. I think this is the embodiment of "if there's a will, there's a way"

12 minutes ago, VtwinVince said:

From these images it looks OK, with most of the gilding intact. Is that a repair to the reverse of the left side sword hilt?

From the looks of it no, as with the exception of the right swords hilt, the rest of the sword are soldered on to the enamel wreath, not pinned like that of a godet.

Take a picture of the ring as a stamp of the manufacturer may be on there

Just received this in the mail today and I'm wondering if I could get some opinions upon its authenticity etc. Thanks

Hello,

If any of you are not familiar with this Fritz story, you are in for a real experience but that's not what I'm here for. 

I have been able to ID nearly all of the awards visibly shown, but I'm stumped as to one of the Stern's in his possession. (I doubt that this spy would end up in any rangeliste or anything of that sort)

Medjidjie Orden Grosskreuz? - Probably not because of the lack of the Gross Stern, (probably relating to the unknown stern)

Osmanische Osmanje Orden Kommandeurkreuz u. Stern

Wuttemburg Orden der Wuttembergischen Krone Komturkreuz mit Schwertern

Wuttemburg Orden der Wuttembergischen Krone Kreuz der Ehrenritter min Schwertern 

Eisernes Kreuz II. un I. Klasse

K.u.K Franz-Josef Orden Ritterkreuz - Interestingly a peacetime award

Baden Orden Berthod des Ersten Ritterkreuz 

Sachsen-Meiningen Kreuz fur Verdienst im Kriege 1915

Wuttemburg Orden der Wuttembergischen Krone Ritterkreuz mit Lowen u. Schwertern

Mecklenburg-Schwerin Greifenorden Ritterkreuz mit Krone

Konigreich Bulgarien Militar Verdienst Orden Ritterkreuz

Thanks All!

On 26/11/2020 at 10:04, Kriegsmarine Admiral said:

Thank you!

Do you agree with the rest of my ID's of the medals that have the "???" at the end?

 Absolutely, I would say that the other awards you were debating about where correct in their assumption,

Great detective work!

The last cross on the medal bar is the Anhalt Friedrich Kreuz II klasse

Hello, 

it is clearly the China denkmuze as the 3 colors of the imperial German flag are present and the rim of the medal has what looks like a thick border, or wreath, which none of the other colonial medals had, 

regards, 

Dan

Always coming up gangbusters, figuring out a 3 year old mystery, nice work Komtur

Could it be a variant of the Grecian Cross of Valor? 

Hello all, does anyone here know, or have that they are willing so sell, original 1866 Oldenburg medal ribbon? 
thanks

10 hours ago, GdC26 said:

And I give the same answer I gave above, with two additions:

 1 -  it seems well possible that the Grand duke was entitled to wear this medal  not as a recipient, but as the head of state of the Grand duchy and/or as nominal chief of its army.  

 2 - the troops at Loigny-Poupry were commanded by Friedrich Franz II, Friedrich Franz IV's grandfather; and

3 - the medal was instituted by Johann Anton, who served as regent after Friedrich Franz III's death until Friedrich Franz IV came of age.

In other words, I would not be surprised if family ties and Friedrich Franz IV's position as archduke (as he was in 1899, even if due to his age, he did not yet reign the archduchy) led to the bestowal. Nothing unusual in royal circles, Wilhelm II wore many awards he presumably did not technically qualify for (GC EK 1914, PLM with oaks, etc.); Leopold IV Prinz of Lippe Detmold wore a special class of his house order, etc. And the 1870/71 war still held a lot of importance at the end of the 19th and the beginning of the 20th century, as it laid the basis for German unification under Wilhelm I.

And then there is of course the possibility that  FF IV was in fact the patron of hte Kriegerverein to which the medal was connected. Be that as it may, all of this makes much more sense than a lowly Prussian RK medal holding second place on the medlbar of the Grandduke of Mecklenburg-Schwerin. 

Kind regards, 

Sandro

Sandro, I do tend to agree with you, and bringing up Wilhelm ii, I had come across another thread on this website and it’s mentions that he didn’t even wear a non combatants version of the 1870 kreigsdenkmünze, and he was alive when the war was taking place. This is certainly ending up to be a very interesting topic to say the least.

9 hours ago, GdC26 said:

It could be the Kriegervereinsmedaille 1899, which was instituted in 1899 to commemorate the battle of Loigny-Poupry of 2 December 1870 by the then regent of Mecklenburg Schwerin, Johann Anton, who was managing the affairs of the Duchy until Friedrich Franz came of age. https://www.ehrenzeichen-orden.de/deutsche-staaten/kriegervereinsmedaille-1899.html

Design is the same as the 1813/14 award, but the year is different. According to Wiki, Franz Fedrinand in fact wore it. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_Francis_IV,_Grand_Duke_of_Mecklenburg-Schwerin  https://www.ehrenzeichen-orden.de/deutsche-staaten/kriegervereinsmedaille-1899.html

That looks very likely, however I bring up a similar question that I was asked pertaining upon how he would have been eligible for the award as he did not participate, nor was he alive for the war of 1870 .

Hello, the first medal that you’re trying to ID is the Preußen Hannoversche Jubiläumsdenkmünze.

45 minutes ago, Paul R said:

What an awesome bar.  He must've been a really old man by then!  At least 62 (unless he entered illegally at a younger age) at the onset of WW1!  What is that second medal?

It’s the 1902 Oldenburg Kreigervereins-Verdienstkreuz. It was awarded to commemorate the battle of Vionville-Mars-La-Tour. It was an Oldenburg State veterans award rather than the numerous unofficial verdienstkreuz’s.

The title is pretty much self explanatory! 
 

While doing some research, I had come across this gem, and then had to ask the question posted above. Any examples anyone has would be greatly appreciated to quench my thirst for knowledge. Thanks All

Hello all, I am wondering if anyone has a list of Kurt von Schleichers medals. So far I’ve gotten:

Eisernes Kruez 1,2 klasse

Roter Adler orden 3rd Klasse mit schwerten?

Bayern Militär-Verdienstorden 3rd klasse mit schwerten

Sachsen Albrecht orden mit schwerten u. Kreigs dekoration 

Wüttemburg Freidrichs Orden muy schwerten?

Oldenburg Freidrich Augustus Kruz 2ed klasse?

 Österreich Militärverdienstkreuz mit Kreigs dekoration u. Wiederholungsverschluss
 

Bulgarischer Orden des Heiligen Alexander 5. Klasse

Por le merite?

johanniter orden

any more assistance would be much appreciated, thanks 

Does anyone have a complete list of Hugo von Kathen’s awards?

Great find with him in his admirals uniform, I still believe more research into that photo of his funeral would be the where the answer to your question. The sad fact is that most of these photos of him are to low quality, anyways here’s another photo.

Hi all, I’m just needing a little assistance in IDing a few of his medals, thanks

Hi, I’ve been trying to find the Hof- und Staatshandbuch des Großherzogtums Oldenburg  as supposedly it would have it there. Nevertheless I do have some photos, and have attempted to make some list.

Medal bar:

1. 1870 eisernes Kreuz mit Eichenlaub 25 Jahre, Wiederholungsspange 1914, Eisernes Kreuz 1914 1st class

2. Oldenburg Haus und Verdienstorden von Herzog Peter Friedrich Louis Ehrenkreuz 1st Klasse

3. 1870-1871 Preussen kreigsdenkmünze fur kampfer mit Spange: 

       -Gavrilot-St. Privat   -Metz   -Paris      

4. 1897 Kaiser Wilhelm I Erinnerungsmedaille Zentenarmedaille

5. 1878 Preussen Kaiser Wilhelm I Goldene Hochzeit Medaille 2ed klasse

6. 1870 Mecklenburg-Schwerin Militärverdienstkreuz 2ed klasse

7. 1870-1871 Schaumburg-Lippe Militärverdiesntsmedaille mit Säbeln 

8. 1902 Verdienstkreuz des Oldenburg kreigsverein or Mecklenburg-Schwerin Großherzog Friedrich Franz II verdienst Medaille in Silber 

9. 1902 Saxe-Altenburg                          Medaille zum 50 Jahren regisrungjubiläum

10. Mecklenburg-Schwerin     Gedächtsmedaille Franz Friedrich III

11. unknown 

Prussia:

Swartz Adler Orden collar and Groß stern

 Hohenzollern Haus Orden collar/ Groß stern

Mecklenburg-Schwerin:

Wedischenkronen Orden Collar/ Groß Stern/ Kreuz 

possibly the griffen orden

Oldenburg:

Haus u. Verdienst order von Peter Friedrich Lois collar, groß Kreuz/Stern 

PFL Grand Cross chapter Badge

Austria:

Franz Josef Orden groß Stern 

Russia:

St. Anne Orden Groß stern

St. Alexander Orden Groß Kreuz/stern

Denmark:

Order of the white elephant grand cross and collar

Belgium

Possible grand cordon of the order of Leopold?

Hope this can be of some help 

I have also found that the medal after the centenary medal is Kaiser Wilhelm I golden wedding medal 

https://www.ehrenzeichen-orden.de/deutsche-staaten/goldene-hochzeitsmedaille-1879-2-klasse.html

Sorry about sorry about the poor quality of the photos. These should be better.

i added the funeral processions photo, but it is still probably too unclear regardless.

Going off of that, I think that #8 might be the Oldenburg merit cross 1870

https://www.ehrenzeichen-orden.de/deutsche-staaten/verdienstkreuz-des-oldenburger-kriegervereins.html

For a while now I have been searching information regarding the Grand Dukes medal bar. I was able to recognize some of the medals on his medal bars, however, there are a few of the medals that I have had trouble recognizing and identifying.

1: EK ii 1870, (all photos) 25 anv. spange.             ( Photos 1,2,5)

2: Crown orden? XV year service cross? Oldenburg house order with out crown or swords? ( photos 1,2,5)

3: 1870-71 victory medal with 3 unknown spanges              ( all photos )

4: 1897 centenary medal ( photos 1,2,5)

5: unknown - my thoughts are, possible Saxon-Altenburg bravery medal ( mother being from aforementioned royal house)  , Prussian Red eagle order iv class, an Austrian medal ( has crown at the top ), my best guess, an early Belgian military medal ( king of Belgium attended wedding )

6: 1870 Mecklenburg-Schwerin military bravery cross ii class (based on photos 6,4)

7: unknown - I am at a complete loss for identification of this medal. At first I thought it was ottoman due to the sabers, but this is extremely unlikely due to Peter II of Oldenburg having the same medal, and doing further research, Peter ii’s medal had, at least from one illustration, 3 lines of text on the reverse of the medal, which led me to think either Austrian or a Hessian medals reverse, but both led to dead ends. 

8: unknown - possible crow-less-reign-less order of Dannebrog? Crown-less Greek Greek Cross of Valor? 

9/8: Mecklenburg-Schwerin Friedrich-Franz iii memorial medal?

If anyone would mind helping me identify these it would be greatly appreciated. Furthermore, when researching I had also come across pictures of the the Grand Dukes Funeral with all of his awards and orders laid out; However, due to the poor resolution, angle, distance etc. I was led to a dead end. If anyone knows what his other awards where that would be greatly appreciated. Finally, If their topic had already been made , would you mind linking it? I hope that with a little help we’ll be able to figure this out, thanks, Dan 

My bad, Forgot to add last image: