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What a great picture of Walter Pelkmann. I can only wonder, if he received any other WW I decorations besides EK I and Kriegsverdienstkreuz (Braunschweig)? The Kriegsverdienstkreuz would get two classes March 1918. Would Pelkmanns awards then be I. or II. class? Probably 2nd class, because he didn't serve on the front?! Does someone know if he was ill? He died 1919 in Berlin. I don't know his wife's name, but he had one, as the list of the "Offizierswitwenkasse" shows.

On 19/09/2018 at 13:16, Mattyboy said:

Hi Dave,

Very interesting about Willi Ott, which is a new name for me. I hadn’t noticed the ’31’ on his shoulder strap!  

So von Landwüst is a good candidate. Does the abbreviation OK2 mean Friedrich-August Cross 2^nd Class?

 

Hi Gunnar,

Thanks for the first names. The link to FFA 54 is tenuous for some of these people. I saw a photo of a silver plate which had signatures inscribed – I will post this photo later.

Ok here is a nice photo of Hptm Erich Quade – does anyone know what award he is wearing through the button-hole along with the EK2?  

 

What a nice picture. Do you have a name? Thanks!

I have all decorations up to the Rangliste 1914, if anyone could help me out with WW I decorations I would be thankful. I have of course EK I (1914) and Pour le Mérite, but what else? Here a surely well-known pre-war picture:

Just great, thank you!!!

I am putting together all awards of Carl/Karl Eduard von Hänisch, does anyone have his promotion dates to Fahnenjunker and Fähnrich? He entered 1847 and was commissioned Sekondeleutnant 18 December 1849. Maybe he started as Einjährig- or Dreijährig-Freiwilliger? Thanks!

... and let us not forget the thousands of, formerly Jewish, Officers who had (themselves or their parents) converted to Christianity.

Yes, sitting on the stairs is a young Hermann Göring! The Hamburger Cigarren Handels AG (HACIFA) had merged with his fathers, now brothers L.Wolff Cigarrenfabriken. As an AG the company still existed 1945 (see first picture) and 1954, around 1960 it became the HACIFA Hamburger Cigarren Handels G.m.b.H., which still existed 1965 (see second picture).

Thanks, Gentlemen!

Thank you so much for your explanations, I just learned a lot!!!

1) EK II

2) Ehrenkreuz für Frontkäampfer

3) Kriegserinnerungsmedaille (Österreich) mit Schwertern

4) Flandernkreuz

5) ?

6) Baltenkreuz

7) ?

8 ) Deutschritter-Kreuz, 2nd class with swords, although he had the grand cross with star

9) ?

10) ?

11) ?

No, Ian, not at all. WP knows hardly anything, not even the date he entered service. But thanks anyway!

If someone has his promotion dates, I would be thankful! What is the medal Nr. 5 after the Flandernkreuz (Nr. 4)? Nr. 3 seems to be the Kriegserinnerungsmedaille (Österreich) mit Schwertern?

What a nice picture! Can anyone identify all decorations? I read, he was not reactivated, so is this a reserve uniform? Also this is a Heeresuniform, but I read somewhere, he was possibly in the Luftwaffe? Can anyone clarify this? Thank you!

On 20/12/2017 at 23:26, GMU said:

Hello, I am seeking help from the forum experts regarding the awards of Oberstlt. A.D. Josef Bischoff commander of the Eiserne Division in 1919. Major Josef Bischoff was awarded the Pour le Merite in June 30 1918. His estate was recently auctioned in Germany, and it included his ribbon bar. I have tried to identify his medals..Could anyone here provide me with more information about the date of these awards, or in general, about Josef Bischoff's service? Thank you very much in advance!

 

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I am posting this at other forums as well. Thanks again!!!

Did you ever get a complete list? To the right of the Südwest-Afrika Denkmünze I can see the Kolonial-Denkmünze.

Wow, phantastic, that really makes sense. Thank you!

Yes, you are right, it really does ... he became Leutnant 1913, but I doubt he received this order ... especially not with swords. It somehow looks overdimensional, I have never seen anything like it. Maybe a sort of private decoration?

Gentlemen, what exactly is Roßbach wearing around his neck??? Did he only receive EK II and I in the war or more?

Thanks so much, Chuck!

32 minutes ago, chuck said:

According to research by Neal O'Conner. The number of the PLM and GMMC could not be very much if you consider how late in the war the Prussian chose to start awarding GMMC. The 1st award of the GMMC was not made until October 15 1916, and the 2nd on June 14 1917 with 53 awards being made in  1917. The flood gate opened in 1918 with 1,1715 crosses being award until the last award on November 8 1918. Considering that fact you would have had to be an NCO and promoted to officer in 1918. That would certainly lessen the opportunity.

 

Neal O'Conner does list 5 aviation officers who won both the PLM and GMMC.

Paul Baumer

Julius Buckler

Otto Jonnecke

Fritz Rumey

Karl Thom

 

Regards, 

Chuck

Chuck, thanks for the information on Paul Bäumer, Julius Buckler, Otto Könnecke, Fritz Rumey und Karl Thom ... do you have more decortions for Thom? Maybe promotion dates? Was he reactivated in WW II? Thanks!

Maybe also interesting: six soldiers (as far as I know) received the GMMC in WW I and the Ritterkreuz des Eisernen Kreuzes in WW II: Wilhelm Hemmer, Richard Kotz, Hermann-Bernhard Ramcke, Fritz Stürtz (RdEK posthum), Gustav Wagner, and Franz-Josef Welzel. Anymore names? I would love to know. I also read, that many/all NCOs with the GMMC were promoted to Leutnant der Landwehr on Tannenbergtag in August 1939?!

Thanks, Chuck!

What is the second medal from the right? Is the fourth medal from the right the China-Denkmünze in Stahl? Thanks!

I read the Wikipedia article on Reinhard Scheer, and it has grand crosses like Großkreuz des Albrechts-Ordens, Großkreuz des Greifenordens, Großkreuz des Bayerischen Militärverdienstordens and Großkreuz des Hausordens Albrechts des Bären, but also Kronenorden I. Klasse mit Schwertern and ROA-Großkreuz (I can only identify 1st class). They refer to the Rangliste 1918, so I checked (also 1916), and I do not see these. Maybe someone can help. Here is what I have, additions and corrections, as always, very welcome:

Preußischer Kronenorden, IV. Klasse mit Schwertern

Preußisches Dienstauszeichnungskreuz

Zentenarmedaille, 1897

Sankt-Stanislaus-Orden, II. Klasse (RSt2)

Roter Adlerorden, IV. Klasse

Orden der Eisernen Krone (Österreich), Ritter III. Klasse (ÖEK3)

Hausorden Albrechts des Bären, Ritterkreuz I. Klasse (AAB3a/AB3a)

Ritterkreuz des Königlichen Hausordens von Hohenzollern

Preußischer Kronenorden, III. Klasse mit Schwertern am Ringe

Militärverdienstorden (Bayern), Offizierkreuz (BMVO/BMV.O)

Stern zum Sankt-Stanislaus-Orden II. Klasse (RSt2mSt)

Roter Adlerorden, III. Klasse mit Schwertern

Orden der Aufgehenden Sonne, III. Klasse (JV3)

Preußischer Kronenorden, II. Klasse mit Schwertern am Ringe

Roter Adlerorden, II. Klasse mit Eichenlaub

Greifen-Orden, Großkomturkreuz (MG2a)

Oldenburgischer Haus- und Verdienstorden des Herzogs Peter Friedrich Ludwig, Ehrenkomtur-Kreuz (OV2b)

Großkreuz des Franz-Joseph-Ordens (ÖFJ1)

Krone zum Roten Adlerorden II. Klasse mit Eichenlaub

Stern zum Preußischen Kronenorden II. Klasse mit Schwertern am Ringe

Albrechts-Orden, Komturkreuz I. Klasse (SA2a)

Ritterorden der hl. Mauritius und Lazarus, Großoffizierkreuz (JM2)

Eisernes Kreuz (1914) II. und I. Klasse

Schwerter zum Roten Adlerorden II. Klasse mit Eichenlaub und der Krone

Stern mit Schwertern zum Roten Adlerorden II. Klasse mit Eichenlaub, der Krone und Schwertern am 8. Mai 1916

Pour le Mérite mit Eichenlaub

... Verdienstorden am 5. Juni 1916

... Eichenlaub am 1. Februar 1918 (69. Verleihung)

Großkreuz des Militär-Max-Joseph-Ordens (BMJ1) am 6. Juni 1916

Militärverdienstorden (Württemberg), Großkreuz (WMV1) am 7. Juni 1916

Herzoglich Sachsen-Ernestinischer Hausorden, Großkreuz mit Schwertern (HSH1⚔) am 13. Juni 1916

Militär-St. Heinrichs-Orden, Ritterkreuz (SH3) am 23. Juni 1916

Oldenburgischer Haus- und Verdienstorden des Herzogs Peter Friedrich Ludwig, Ehrengroßkreuz mit Schwertern (OV1⚔)

Hanseatenkreuz

... Bremisches

... Hamburgisches

... Lübeckisches

Friedrich-August-Kreuz, II. und I. Klasse (OFA1)

Militärverdienstkreuz (Mecklenburg), I. Klasse (MMV1)

Roter Adlerorden, I. Klasse mit Eichenlaub und Schwertern

Thank you, Gentlemen! Daniel, do you happen to know, if von Richthofen received the swords to his Kronenorden, II. Klasse. Maybe even a wartime 1st class?

Beautiful, thank you ... this is the first time I can see him with the "Gedenkzeichen für die Königlichen Prinzen, Generaladjutanten und Flügeladjutanten von Kaiser Wilhelm II."!!! ... oh, I can now see he received the swords to his RAO2 with Eichenlaub ... great! Do you happen to know, if he received the HOH?