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Gentlemen, Alter Adler and Flieger-As Barends was well decorated in WWI, but in WWII I have only read of his Spangen for the Iron Cross II (and I???). Anything else? Maybe Kriegsverdienstkreuz? Thank you! 

2 hours ago, Dave Danner said:

The ribbon bar should be: EK2Sp-HOH3X-WM3-BZ3bXE-HH-ÖM3K-FEK-WRM-WLDA2-WLDA4-KO4-WF3b

Just great, thank you, Dave! 

Hello Nicolas, sadly the gentlemen from Luftwaffe Officer Career Summaries have nothing on Karl Albrecht (born 25 November 1880 in Bad Mergentheim) and his Luftwaffe service. He was apparently Alter Adler (since 26 April 1912), served in WWI with the Feldflieger-Abteilung 47 as well as Feldflieger-Abteilung 64 (maybe also Feldflieger-Abteilung 12?) and received the Military Merit Order (Württemberg) on 20 March 1915. If you find out any more, please let me know. Could you identify the decorations of his very nice ribbon bar? Thanks, Andreas

 

Gentlemen, here is what I have put together for Gaede, any additions, corrections or dates, as always, very welcome:

 

1 April 1870 Fahnenjunker (Officer Candidate)

12 September 1870 Portepéefähnrich (Officer Cadet)

18 November 1870 Secondeleutnant (2nd Lieutenant)

11 June 1879 Premierleutnant (1st Lieutenant)

23 December 1882 Hauptmann (Captain)

15 October 1888 Major

27 January 1894 Oberstleutnant (Lieutenant Colonel)

22 March 1897 Oberst (Colonel)

18 April 1900 Generalmajor

24 April 1904 Generalleutnant

10 September 1908 Charakter als General der Infanterie

24 December 1914 Patent als General der Infanterie

 

Awards, decorations and honours

Iron Cross (1870), 2nd Class

Kaiserliche Kriegsdenkmünze 1870/71

Order of the Redeemer, Knight of the Silver Cross (GE4)

Red Eagle Order (Roter Adlerorden), 4th Class

Order of the Crown (Württemberg), Knight's Cross (WK3b; later reclassified as WK3c)

Saxon Albrechts-Orden, Officer's Cross (SA3)

Prussian Order of the Crown, 3rd Class

Mecklenburg Order of the Griffon (Großherzoglich Mecklenburgischer Greifenorden), Honour Cross (MGrO2c/MG2c)

Prussian Long Service Cross for 25 years (Königlich Preußisches Dienstauszeichnungskreuz)

Anniversary Oak Leaves (Jubiläums-Eichenlaub „25“ 1870/1895) to his Iron Cross (1870), 2nd Class

Crown to his Red Eagle Order, 4th Class

Württemberg Order of the Crown (Ehrenkreuz des Ordens der Württembergischen Krone), Honour Cross (WK2c)

Order of the Iron Crown (Austria), 2nd Class (ÖEK2)

Prussian Centenary Medal 1897 (Zentenarmedaille)

Military Merit Order (Bavaria), Knight's Cross I. Class (BMV3a)

Red Eagle Order, 3rd Class with the Bow

Prussian Order of the Crown, 2nd Class

Orden vom Zähringer Löwen, Commander 1st Class (BZ2a)

Red Eagle Order, 2nd Class

Star to his Prussian Order of the Crown 2nd Class

Star to his Red Eagle Order, 2nd Class

Prussian Order of the Crown (Preußischer Kronenorden), 1st Class on 2 March 1907

 

WWI

Iron Cross, 2nd Class repetition clasp (1914) to the EKII (1870)

Iron Cross (1914), 1st Class

Anhalter Kreuz (AK)

Brunswick War Merit Cross (Herzoglich Braunschweigisches Kriegsverdienstkreuz), 2nd Class (BrK2)

Bremen Hanseatic Cross (Bremisches Hanseatenkreuz; BremH/BH)

Lübeck Hanseatic Cross (Lübeckisches Hanseatenkreuz; LübH/LüH)

Hamburg Hanseatic Cross (Hamburgisches Hanseatenkreuz; HH)

Lippe-Detmold War Merit Cross (Lippisches Kriegsverdienstkreuz; LK)

Mecklenburg-Schwerin Military Merit Cross (Großherzoglich Mecklenburgisches Militärverdienstkreuz), 2nd Class (MMV2)

Pour le Mérite on 25 August 1915

Princely House Order of Hohenzollern (Fürstlich Hohenzollern'sches Ehrenzeichen), Cross of Honour 1st Class with Swords (HEK1⚔)

Baden Order of the Zähringer Lion, Grand Cross with Swords (BZ1⚔)

Military Merit Order (Bavaria), 1st class with Swords (BMV1⚔)

Friedrichs-Orden, Grand Cross with Swords (WF1⚔)

Gallipoli Star (Eiserner Halbmond; TH)

Great Golden İmtiyaz Nişanı (Große Goldene Imtiyaz-Medaille mit Säbeln) with Swords/Saber (TJ1⚔/TI1⚔)

 

Honours

Honorary Doctorate: Dr. phil. h. c. of the Universität Freiburg im Breisgau in 1915

Adding GdI Hans Gaede. 

Ranglisten 1914 & 1918:

 

Thank you very much, Gentlemen! 

Gentlemen, I know Gaede (his pre-war decorations are known) received the EK I and the Pour le Mérite in WWI, but anything else? Maybe the Red Eagle Order, 1st Class? Thanks! 

 

3 hours ago, Dave Danner said:

It's not Hans Hasse. His known decorations are:

 

10.09.1913 KO4
30.09.1914 EK2
27.07.1915 EK1
04.06.1918 HOH3X
03.11.1914 ÖM3K
xx.12.1915 ÖEK3K
18.01.1917 ÖL3K
24.11.1916 BMV4X

 

He entered the army on 1.4.1897, so no Centenary Medal.

 

 

 

Thank you, Dave! 

2 hours ago, webr55 said:

The Luftwaffe bar might have belonged to Generalmajor Hans Hasse (1878-1968). It looks like he came in a bit too late for the Centenary. I have no proof for the Hamburg though, maybe Dave has more. 

Can you give us any information about Johann "Hans" Hasse (if you find the time)? Maybe his WWI decorations? Maybe a picture? Any relation to General der Infanterie Wilhelm Otto Oswald Hasse? He is one of those generals where one can find very little about (he seems to have translated this book: https://www.zvab.com/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=10390935058). Thank you! 

Gentlemen, I am looking for all WWI decorations of the later SS-Standartenführer und Oberst der Polizei Max Schimmelpfennig, who served in the Grenadier-Regiment „König Friedrich der Große“ (3. Ostpreußisches) Nr. 4 and  as Leutnant der Reserve in the Inf-Rgt Nr 176 and in the Reserve-Inf-Regt Nr. 3. He received the EK II and I and was wounded (at least) four times between August 1916 and October 1918. So he must have had at least the Wound Badge in Silver, maybe even Gold, in pictures he never uses his right arm, salutes with his left (maybe amputated)? Thank you! PS: Any additional information about his career would be great! 

 

Thank you, Dave! I take it, the problem is the bad quality of the picture with the ribbon seeming to be striped several times instead of only two broad stripes?! 

Thank you! So maybe, just maybe, the unknown could be the Lübeckisches Hanseatenkreuz (if only the picture would be better), which would fit to him serving with the Schleswig-Holsteinisches Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 163 in Neumünster (subordinated to the 81. Infanterie-Brigade in Lübeck). 

Thanks, GreyC, I would agree with you. THIERRY TIXIER in his book even has a date. I wonder how? Could the second ribbon from the left be the HOH3X? Sorry for not having a better picture. 

 

Gentlemen, could anyone help me with the first two ribbons left of the Dienstauszeichnungen. At least one seems to have swords, but is very hard to see. Thank you!

PS.: THIERRY TIXIER has him with the Knight's Cross of the Royal House Order of Hohenzollern with Swords and the Lübeckisches Hanseatenkreuz. Could that be right???

 

On 26/05/2023 at 22:19, Soderbaum said:

Hi Matty

 

Lt dR Otto Hansen scored an aerial victory in FFA 62 in July 1915. For this he received the EKI in August 1915, but now he served in FFA 5. He did not receive the Hohenzollern so this must be another Hansen ! However he lster received the AR2ms. For the victory he received the EB (Ehrenbecher) on 24.12.1915.

 

During WW2 he became an Oberst

 

Gunnar

 

Hello, Gunnar! Is this the right Otto Hansen? What does AR2ms (... mit Schwertern) stand for? Thanks, Andreas

"HANSEN, Otto. 01.10.39 promo to Obstlt.; at LKS Dresden. 07.04.43 in XIII. Fliegerkorps area, trf to Führer-Reserve Ob.d.L. and ordered to Annahmestelle 2 für Offz.Bewerber d.Lw. on temporary duty. 01.07.43 permanently trf to Annahmestelle 2 für Offizierbewerber d.Lw. 01.06.44 promo to Oberst. 1944 in Annahmestelle 2 für Offizier-Bewährung d.Lw. 31.03.45 Oberst (Tr.O.) in Flieger-Ers.Btl. V, released from active military service."

Thank you, Sascha, I corrected it. But the date stays the same? 

Thank you, Dave! One question, please: On 20 June 1910 he became Leutnant with Patent from 20 June 1908 ... could that be an indication for visiting the Kadettenkorps beforehand? His brother Max received ÖM3K (also as Hauptmann), maybe the list confused this and was later revised?

I don't know how you do it ... just WOW and thank you! Seeing this, I do wonder, if Max was maybe originally Maximilian?! 

Thank you, Dave! I must have read it somewhere, I wish I knew. But, maybe this derived from the fact, that his III. Bataillon/Infanterie-Regiments 88 was at the Westwall in 1939/40? Some sources have a wound badge (1918) in black. Can you verify this? Once again, thanks! 

Thank you, Dave!!! List update:

 

German states

Knight of the Bavarian (Wittelsbach) Order of Saint Hubert (BH)

Baden House Order of Fidelity (BdT/BT) in 1887

Order of Berthold the First (Orden Berthold des Ersten), Grand Cross (BdBI1/BBI.1/BZLBI) in 1887

... This Berthold-Orden would be worn as a neck decoration and without breast star, just like his Prussian RAO Grand Cross that was awarded additionally to the Black Eagle Order.

Royal Bavarian House Knight Order of Saint George, Grand Prior (BStG1/BG1) in 1889

Medal of Saint George (St. Georgs-Medaille; BStGM/BG.M)

... The St. George Medal or St.-Georgs-Jubiläumsmedaille was donated by Grand Master Prince Regent Luitpold of Bavaria on 15 December 1889 to commemorate his acceptance into the Order of St. George fifty years earlier.

Black Eagle Order "with the Chain" ("mit der Kette")

... Schwarzer Adler-Orden (PsA) on 22 June 1890

... Chain on 17 January 1900

Red Eagle Order (Roter Adlerorden), Grand Cross (neck order for Knight's of the Black Eagle Order)

Hesse Ludwig (Ludewig) Order, Grand Cross (HL1/GHL1) on 22 March 1893

Saxon Order of the Rue Crown (SR/SRK)

Württemberg Order of the Crown, Grand Cross (WK1)

Prussian Centenary Medal 1897 (Zentenarmedaille)

Military Merit Order (Bavaria), Knight's Cross II. Class (BMV3b)

Saxe-Ernestine House Order, Grand Cross (SEH1/HSEH1/HSH1)

Bavarian Military Merit Order, Commander 2nd Class (BMV2b)

Jubiläumsmedaille für die Armee

... Jubiläumsmedaille in 1905

... Militär-Jubiläumsmedaille in 1909

... Crown to his Jubiläumsmedaille in 1911

Bavarian Military Merit Order, Commander 2nd Class (BMV2a)

... as of Rangliste 1906 declared as 2nd Class (BMV2)

Erinnerungszeichen zur Silbernen Hochzeit 1906 (PEZ)

Southwest Africa Commemorative Medal (Südwest-Afrika Denkmünze) in Steel for non-combatants

Princely House Order of Hohenzollern (Fürstlich Hohenzollern'sches Ehrenzeichen), Cross of Honour I. Class (HE1/HEK1)

Star to his Bavarian Military Merit Order 2nd Class (BMV2mSt)

Bavarian Military Merit Order, 1st Class (BMV1)

Duchy of Brunswick Order of Henry the Lion, Grand Cross (BrsL1a/BrH.G.Kr.)

Oldenburg House and Merit Order of Duke Peter Frederick Louis (Oldenburgischer Haus- und Verdienstorden des Herzogs Peter Friedrich Ludwig), Grand Cross of Honour (Ehren-Großkreuz) with the Chain (OP1m.K/OV1mK)

Bavarian Military Merit Order, Grand Cross (BMV.G.Kr)

Bavarian Long Service Award (Bayerische Dienstauszeichnung), 2nd Class for 24 years (BDK2)

House Order of the Wendish Crown, Grand Cross with the Crown in Ore (MWK1m.Kr.i.E/MK1a)

House Order of Hohenzollern, Grand Commander (Großkomturkreuz; PH1; as of Bavarian Rangliste 1911)

 

Austrian-Hungarian

Order of Saint Stephen of Hungary, Grand Cross (ÖSt1/UngSt1/USt1) in 1893

Austrian Order of the Golden Fleece (Orden vom Goldenen Vlies; ÖGV) in 1900

Austrian 1908 Jubilee Cross (ÖMJK)

 

Foreign (pre-WWI)

Tuscany Order of Saint Joseph, Knight Grand Cross (TJ1)

Ottoman Osmanie-Orden (Osmanije), 1st Class with Diamonds (TO1mBr/TürkO1m.Br)

Queen Victoria Diamond Jubilee Medal in Gold (GJMg)

... The Diamond Jubilee of Queen Victoria was officially celebrated on 22 June 1897 to mark the occasion of the 60th anniversary of Queen Victoria's accession on 20 June 1837. Prince Rupprecht of Bavaria took part representing Luitpold, the Prince Regent of Bavaria.

Belgian Order of Leopold, Grand Cordon (BelgL1/BL1) in 1897

Swedish Knight of the Seraphim (SSer/SchwSer) on 18 September 1897

King Oscar II's Jubilee Commemorative Medal (SJM/SchwJM) on 18 September 1897

Order of the Star of Romania, Grand Cross (RmSt1/RumSt1)

Illustrious Royal Order of Saint Ferdinand and Merit of the Kingdom of the Two Sicilies, Knight Grand Cross (ScFd1/Sic.F1)

Chinese Order of the Double Dragon, First Class, Second Grade (ChDDI2/CDI.2)

Japanese Supreme Order of the Chrysanthemum (JpCh/JKd) on 16 May 1905

Order of the Gold Lion of the Grand Duchy of Luxembourg (LgL)

Spanish Order of Charles III, Grand Cross with Collar/Chain (SpK1m.K/SC1mK)

Royal Victorian Order, Honorary Grand Cross (GV1)

King George V Coronation Medal (GKrM) on 22 June 1911

Crown of Italy, Grand Cross in 1914

 

WWI

"VOB" refers to the date of publication in the Verordnungs-Blatt des Königlich Bayerischen Kriegsministeriums, generally for those awards where the actual award date is unknown. There are also minor discrepancies in some of the award dates in different sources.

 

Military Order of Max Joseph, Grand Cross on 23 or 26 August 1914

Iron Cross (1914), 2nd and 1st Class on 16 October 1914

Saxon Military Order of St. Henry

... Knight on 23 November 1914

... Commander 2nd Class on 9 June 1915 (VOB 21 August 1915)

... Commander 1st Class on 4 January 1917

... Grand Cross on 7 May 1918

Württemberg Military Merit Order, Grand Cross (WMV1) on 2 December 1914

Baden Military Karl-Friedrich Merit Order, Grand Cross (BdV1/BV1) on 12 January 1915

Swords to his Princely House Order of Hohenzollern (Fürstlich Hohenzollern'sches Ehrenzeichen) Cross of Honour I. Class (HE1⚔/HEK1⚔) on 20 January 1915

Swords to his Saxe-Ernestine House Order Grand Cross (SEH1⚔/HSEH1⚔/HSH1⚔) on 2 April 1915

War Honor Cross for Heroic Deeds (Kriegsehrenkreuz für heldenmütige Tat) on 7 June 1915

Lippe War Merit Cross (Lippe-Detmoldisches Kriegsverdienstkreuz) on 7 June 1915

Austria-Hungary Military Merit Cross, 1st Class with War Decoration (ÖMV1mKD/ÖM1K; VOB 6 June 1915)

Hesse General Honour Decoration "For Bravery" (VOB 21 August 1915)

War Merit Cross (Brunswick), 2nd Class (BrK2; VOB 21 August 1915)

Mecklenburg-Schwerin Military Merit Cross (Großherzoglich Mecklenburg-Schwerinsches Militärverdienstkreuz), 2nd and 1st Class (MMV1/MK1; VOB 21 August 1915)

Friedrich Cross (Friedrich-Kreuz; VOB 21 August 1915)

Order of Albert the Bear, Grand Cross with Swords (AAdB1⚔; VOB 21 August 1915)

Pour le Mérite with Oak Leaves

... Pour le Mérite on 22 August 1915

... Oak Leaves on 20 December 1916

Saxe-Meiningen Cross for Merit in War (SMK) on 29 September 1915

Hamburg Hanseatic Cross (Hamburgisches Hanseatenkreuz; HH) on 19 October 1915

Lübeck Hanseatic Cross (Lübeckisches Hanseatenkreuz; LübH/LüH) on 2 November 1915

Bremen Hanseatic Cross (Bremisches Hanseatenkreuz; BremH/BH) on 9 November 1915

Ottoman Gallipoli Star (Eiserner Halbmond; TH; VOB 26 February 1916)

Ottoman Silver Imtiaz Medal with Swords (VOB 26 February 1916)

Ottoman Gold Imtiaz Medal with Swords (Imitazgefechtsmedaille; VOB 26 February 1916)

Order of the White Falcon (Hausorden vom Weißen Falken), Grand Cross with Swords (GSF1⚔) in 1917

Austria-Hungary Military Merit Medal, Grand Military Merit Medal (Große Militär-Verdienstmedaille) in Gold (ÖGrSL), also called the Grand Signum Laudis (Große Signum Laudis) on 22 August 1917

Swords to his Bavarian Military Merit Order Grand Cross (BMV.G.Kr⚔) on 10 December 1917

House Order of Lippe, Grand Cross (Fürstlich Lippischer Hausorden, Großkreuz) with Swords (LDH.G.Kr⚔) on 13 December 1917

Swords to his House Order of Hohenzollern Grand Commander on 23 December 1917

Star to his House Order of Hohenzollern Grand Commander with Swords on 23 March 1918

 

Post-WWI

Sovereign Military Order of Malta, Bailiff Knight Grand Cross (Ehren-Bailli und Großkreuz des Souveränen Malteser-Ritter-Ordens), 1923

Jubilee Medal (Jubiläums-Medaille des 2. Königlich Bayerischen Infanterie Regiments „Kronprinz“), 1932

Ehrenkreuz für Frontkämpfer

Italian Knight of the Annunciation, 1948

Italian Order of Saints Maurice and Lazarus, Grand Cross in 1948

 

Honours

Honorary doctorate (Dr. iur. utr. h. c.) of the University of Berlin in 1910

Honorary member of the Bayerische Akademie der Wissenschaften, 1911

Honorary doctorate (Dr. phil. h. c.) of the University of Erlangen on 5 July 1925

Honorary citizen of the University of Munich, 1949

Honorary member of the Germanisches Nationalmuseum in Nürnberg, 1952

 

Orders (Großmeister)

Grand Master of the Order of Saint Hubert, 1921 to 1955

Grand Master of the Royal Bavarian House Knight Order of Saint George, 1921

Grand Master of the Military Order of Max Joseph, 1933

What a great info. Yes, GdI Karl Ernst Ludwig Lucian Rudolf von Viebahn was his uncle, as was Generalleutnant z. D. Friedrich Karl Hermann Georg von Viebahn (1840–1915) ... now I am getting unsure. Maybe he did have the Kriegshilfekreuz??? What is strange is, that the Reichswehr Rangliste not only listed it as "BK" in 1924 and 1925, but also in 1932. If it really was a mistake, one would think, that Max von Viebahn would have read and reported the "mistake"? Please let me know, if you happen to find an award for a "Hauptmann von Viebahn". 

Gentlemen, I am looking for the WWI decorations (except for EK II and I) of Generalmajor Johann "Hans" Albert Hermann Gotthilf von Viebahn (1889–1977) from the Garde-Füsilier-Regiment, the younger brother of General der Infanterie Max Rudolf Fritz Gustav von Viebahn, their father was Generalleutnant Hermann Conrad Clemens Ferdinand von Viebahn. Maybe the Saxe-Meiningen Cross for Merit in War (SMK) like his brother? 

 

Gentlemen, I am looking for the WWII decorations (except for the Spangen to his EK II and I) of Generalmajor Johann "Hans" Albert Hermann Gotthilf von Viebahn (1889–1977), the younger brother of General der Infanterie Max Rudolf Fritz Gustav von Viebahn, their father was Generalleutnant Hermann Conrad Clemens Ferdinand von Viebahn. Maybe an Infanterie-Sturmabzeichen? Maybe the KVK? Thanks!

 

According to the Gothaisches genealogisches Taschenbuch der briefadeligen Häuser, his name was Hans Albert Hermann Gotthilf von Viebahn. His older brother was General der Infanterie Max Rudolf Fritz Gustav von Viebahn, their father was Generalleutnant Hermann Conrad Clemens Ferdinand von Viebahn.