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    1. 18 minutes ago, VtwinVince said:

      Any idea as to how this guy is related to the Bavarian aviator?

       

      Do you mean GL Hermann Ernst Adolf Ritter von Mann Edler von Tiechler? If yes, Hermann was the son of Royal Bavarian Major z. D. Adolf Hermann Eduard Konstantin Ritter von Mann Edler von Tiechler (b. 27 May 1855 in Augsburg; d. 30 January 1921 in Ansbach), who was the son of Major a. D. Ernst Heinrich Paul Ritter von Mann Edler von Tiechler (1822–1895). VAdm Ernst was the son of the Bavarian Captain Klemens Karl Ludwig Ritter von Mann Edler von Tiechler (1829–1903). 

       

      Ernst Heinrich Paul and Klemens Karl Ludwig were brothers, both sons of Oberst a. D. Karl Wenzeslaus Joseph Alois Ritter von Mann Edler von Tiechler (1773–1854). I hope this helps. 

    2. Gentlemen, this is what I have for Ernst Karl August Klemens Ritter von Mann Edler von Tiechler, any additions or corrections would be great. Thanks to Kriegsmarine Admiral for his great research:

       

      21 April 1884 Kadett (Officer Candidate)

      16 April 1885 Seekadett (Officer Cadet)

      16 April 1887 Unterleutnant zur See (2nd Lieutenant)

      17 June 1890 Leutnant zur See (1st Lieutenant)

      12 April 1897 Kapitänleutnant (Lieutenant Captain)

      6 March 1903 Korvettenkapitän (Corvette Captain – Lieutenant Commander)

      ... after his return to the German Navy on 9 March 1907, he received a new patent date: 6 March 1904

      30 March 1908 Fregattenkapitän (Frigate Captain – Commander)

      5 September 1909 (ernannt) Kapitän zur See (Captain at Sea – Captain) with patent from 12 December 1908

      22 March 1915 Konteradmiral (Rear Admiral)

      27 January 1918 Vizeadmiral (Vice Admiral)

       

      Prussian Order of the Crown, 4th Class

      Prussian Centenary Medal 1897 (Zentenarmedaille)

      Red Eagle Order (Roter Adlerorden), 4th Class

      Military Merit Order (Bavaria), Knight's Cross II. Class (BMV3b)

      ... as of Rangliste 1904, reclassified as 4th Class (BMV4)

      Baden Order of the Zähringer Lion (Orden vom Zähringer Löwen), Knight's Cross II. Class (BZL3b/BZ3b)

      Ottoman Medschidie-Orden (Medjidie-Orden), 3rd Class (TM3)

      Imperial Russian Sankt-Stanislaus-Orden, II. Class (RSt2)

      Oak Leaves to his Baden Order of the Zähringer Lion Knight's Cross II. Class (BZL3bmE/BZ3bmE)

      Prussian Order of the Crown (Kronenorden), 3rd Class

      Crown to the Red Eagle Order 4th Class (PAO4mKr)

      Prussian Long Service Cross for 25 years (Königlich Preußisches Dienstauszeichnungskreuz)

      Order of the Redeemer (Greece), Commander (GE2b)

      Order of the Crown of Italy, Commander (JK3)

      Order of the Iron Crown (Austria), 2nd Class (ÖEK2)

      Russian Order of Saint Anna (St.-Annen-Orden), II. Class (RA2)

      Swedish Order of the Sword, Commander 2nd Class (SS2b) on 13 July 1909

      Ottoman Medschidie-Orden (Medjidie-Orden), 2nd Class (TM2)

      Red Eagle Order, 3rd Class with the Bow (mit der Schleife)

      Bavarian Prince Regent Luitpold Medal (Prinzregent-Luitpold-Medaille) in Bronze on the ribbon of the 1905 Anniversary Medal for the Army (1911)

      Prussian Order of the Crown, 2nd Class on 21 January 1912

      Diamonds to his Russian Order of Saint Anna II. Class (RA2mBr)

      Italian Order of Saints Maurice and Lazarus, Commander (JM3)

      Iron Cross (1914), 2nd and 1st Class

      Oldenburg Friedrich-August-Kreuz, 2nd and 1st Class (OFA1/OK1)

      Lübeck Hanseatic Cross (Lübeckisches Hanseatenkreuz; LübH/LüH)

      Bavarian Military Merit Order (Königlich Bayerischer Militärverdienstorden), 2nd Class with Swords (BMV2⚔)

      Red Eagle Order, 2nd Class with Oak Leaves and Swords on 22 January 1917

      Ehrenkreuz für Frontkämpfer

    3. Gentlemen, this is what I have for Char. GdI Arthur Sigismund von Förster, any additions (especially further WWI decorations) or corrections would be great (not sure about the Ehrenkreuz für Frontkämpfer):

       

      23 April 1874 Sekondeleutnant (2nd Lieutenant)

      ??.??.???? Premierleutnant (1st Lieutenant)

      ??.??.1888 Hauptmann

      10 September 1897 Major

      10 March 1904 Oberstleutnant (Lieutenant Colonel)

      13 September 1906 Oberst (Colonel) 

      16 June 1910 Generalmajor 

      1 March 1913 Generalleutnant 

      17 May 1917 Charakter als General der Infanterie

       

      Red Eagle Order (Roter Adlerorden), 4th Class with the Crown (PRAO4mKr/PrA4mKr)

      Prussian Centenary Medal 1897 (Zentenarmedaille)

      Prussian Long Service Cross for 25 years (Königlich Preußisches Dienstauszeichnungskreuz)

      Pour le Mérite on 28 May 1901

      China Commemorative Medal (China-Denkmünze) in Bronze for combatants with three battle clasps

      Order of the Iron Crown (Austria), 2nd Class with the War Decoration (ÖEK2.KD)

      Officer's Cross of the Italian Order of Saints Maurice and Lazarus (JMuL4/JM4)

      Ottoman Osmanie-Orden (Osmanije), 3rd Class (TO3)

      Prussian Order of the Crown (Preußischer Kronenorden), 3rd Class with Swords

      Japanese Order of the Sacred Treasure, Commander (JZ3)

      Red Eagle Order, 3rd Class with the Bow

      Prussian Order of the Crown, 2nd Class with Swords on Ring

      Red Eagle Order, 2nd Class with Oak Leaves

      Star to his Prussian Order of the Crown 2nd Class with Swords on Ring in 1913

      Star to his Red Eagle Order 2nd Class with Oak Leaves in 1914

      Iron Cross (1914), 2nd and 1st Class (thanks to Glenn!)

      Honour Cross of the World War 1914/1918 with Swords (it can be assumed that, due to his rank, he was one of the first recipients)

       

       

      Arthur Sigismund von Förster.jpg

    4. Follow up: General der Infanterie Arthur Sigismund von Förster  (1856–1934) was indeed the father of General der Infanterie Sigismund von Förster (1887–1959). 

       

      Arthur Sigismund von Förster received the Pour le Mérite in 1901, does anyone know if he received EK II and I in WWI? Thanks!

       

      Margaret(h)e von Förster (1886–1969).jpeg

    5. Gentlemen, this is what I have on Hermann Ritter von Mann Edler von Tiechler (source: Axis Forum History), but he did serve with the Luftwaffe from 1935 to 1945, and I do wonder, if he received any more decorations by the Wehrmacht (maybe KVK or even DKiS). Any help would be great.

       

      Prinzregent Luitpold Medal on the ribbon of the Anniversary Medal for the Army

      Iron Cross (1914), 2nd Class

      Military Merit Order (Bavaria), 4th Class with Swords (BMV4⚔)

      Wound Badge (Verwundetenabzeichen 1918) in Silver (Mattweiß)

      Ehrenkreuz für Frontkämpfer (FEK)

      Wehrmacht Long Service Awards (Wehrmacht-Dienstauszeichnung), 4th to 1st Class

       

       

      Hermann Ernst Adolf Ritter von Mann Edler von Tiechler (1889–1961).jpg

    6. Gentlemen, this is what I have for Admiral von Blanc, any additions or corrections would be, as always, just great! Thanks to Kriegsmarine Admiral for the picture!

       

      1 January 1850 officer candidate (Avantageur)

      ??.??.???? officer cadet (Portepee-Fähnrich)

      9 November 1852 2nd lieutenant (Sekondeleutnant)

      ??.??.???? 1st lieutenant (Premierleutnant) 

      16 September 1864 captain (Hauptmann)

      14 September 1865 lieutenant captain (Kapitänleutnant) with RDA (or patent?) from 16 September 1864

      27 April 1869 lieutenant commander (Korvettenkapitän).

      18 January 1875 sea captain (Kapitän zur See)

      30 March 1883 Konteradmiral.

      14 May 1887 Vizeadmiral.

      13 September 1901 Charakter als Admiral z. D.

       

      Legion of Honour, Knight's Cross (FEL5)

      Red Eagle Order (Roter Adlerorden), 4th Class (PRAO4/PrA4)

      War Commemorative Medal of 1870–1871 (Kaiserliche Kriegsdenkmünze 1870/71; KD70/71)

      Prussian Long Service Cross for 25 years (Königlich Preußisches Dienstauszeichnungskreuz)

      The Most Noble Order of the Crown of Siam (Orden der Siamesischen Krone), Commander's Cross (SK2) as of Rangliste 1877–1878

      Saxe-Ernestine House Order, Commander 2nd Class (HSEH2b/HSH2b)

      Red Eagle Order, 3rd Class with the Bow

      Order of Glory (Tunisia), Grand Officer (TNJft1)

      ... later the Grand Officer was classified TNJft2 and the Grand Cross (TNJft.Gr.Krz) now TNJft1

      Prussian Order of the Crown (Preußischer Kronenorden), 2nd Class (KO2)

      The Most Noble Order of the Crown of Siam (Orden der Siamesischen Krone), Grand Officer's Cross (SK1) as of Rangliste 1883

      Order of the Crown of Italy, Grand Officer (JK2)

      Red Eagle Order, 2nd Class with Oak Leaves

      Star to his Prussian Order of the Crown 2nd Class (KO2mSt)

      Order of Saint Michael (Bavaria), Grand Cross (BStMV1/BStMVGkz/BStMVG.Kr), permission to wear on 15 November 1887

      Star to his Red Eagle Order 2nd Class with Oak Leaves on 18 January 1889 (Ordensfest)

      Danish Order of Dannebrog, Grand Cross (DD1) in 1889

       

      Louis Karl Emil von Blanc.jpg

    7. Gentlemen, I have this for Gneomar Ernst Hans Karl von Natzmer (also: Ernst Hans Karl Gneomar von Natzmer; 17 May 1832 – 2 October 1896), any additions would be great. I do wonder, if he maybe received the Kronenorden (3rd, maybe even 2nd Class) when he retired with the uniform on 13 November 1886?

       

      11 November 1850 Three Year Volunteer (Dreijährig-Freiwilliger)

      ??.??.???? Fähnrich

      3 April 1852 Sekondeleutnant (2nd Lieutenant)

      14 January 1860 Premierleutnant (1st Lieutenant)

      10 November 1864 Hauptmann (Captain)

      13 July 1872 Major

      18 April 1878 Oberstleutnant (Lieutenant Colonel)

      10 May 1884 Oberst (Colonel)

       

      Commemorative Cross for the Campaign of 1866 (Erinnerungs-Kreuz für den Feldzug von 1866)

      Iron Cross (1870), 2nd and 1st Class

      Mecklenburg-Schwerin Military Merit Cross (Großherzoglich Mecklenburgisches Militärverdienstkreuz), 2nd Class (MMV2)

      War Commemorative Medal of 1870–1871 (Kaiserliche Kriegsdenkmünze 1870/71; KD70/71)

      Prussian Long Service Cross for 25 years (Königlich Preußisches Dienstauszeichnungskreuz)

      Red Eagle Order (Roter Adlerorden), 4th Class (PRAO4/PrA4)

      Anniversary Oak Leaves (Jubiläums-Eichenlaub „25“ 1870/1895) to his Iron Cross (1870), 2nd Class

    8. Any additions or corrections would be great, thanks!

       

      ??.??.1866 Sekondeleutnant (2nd Lieutenant)

      ??.??.???? Premierleutnant (1st Lieutenant)

      ??.??.???? Rittmeister

      15 February 1887 Major

      29 March 1892 Oberstleutnant (Lieutenant Colonel)

      27 January 1895 Oberst (Colonel)

      15 June 1898 Generalmajor

      16 June 1901 Generalleutnant

      1 March 1906 put to disposal (z. D.) and received the Charakter (honorary) as General of the Cavalry

       

      Commemorative Cross for the Campaign of 1866 (Erinnerungs-Kreuz für den Feldzug von 1866)

      Iron Cross (1870), 2nd Class

      Princely Lippe Military Merit Medal (SLVM/SLMV)

      Mecklenburg-Schwerin Military Merit Cross (Großherzoglich Mecklenburgisches Militärverdienstkreuz), 2nd Class (MMV2)

      War Commemorative Medal of 1870–1871 (Kaiserliche Kriegsdenkmünze 1870/71; KD70/71)

      Russian Order of Saint Stanislaus, 3rd Class with Swords (RSt3⚔)

      Prussian Lifesaving Medal (Rettungsmedaille am Band)

      Prussian Long Service Cross for 25 years (Königlich Preußisches Dienstauszeichnungskreuz)

      Red Eagle Order (Roter Adlerorden), 4th Class (PRAO4/PrA4)

      Prussian Order of the Crown (Preußischer Kronenorden), 3rd Class

      Schaumburg Lippe House Order, Cross of Honour 2nd Class (SLH.EK2/SLH2)

      Red Eagle Order, 3rd Class with the Bow

      Order of Henry the Lion (Herzoglich Braunschweigischer Orden Heinrichs des Löwen), Commander's Cross 2nd Class (BrHL2b/BrH2b)

      Prussian Centenary Medal 1897 (Zentenarmedaille)

      Italian Order of Saints Maurice and Lazarus, Commander (JMuL3/JM3)

      Red Eagle Order, 2nd Class with Oak Leaves

      Order of Philip the Magnanimous (Verdienstorden Philipps des Großmüthigen), Commander 1st Class (HP2a)

      Grand Cross of the Mecklenburg Order of the Griffon (MGrO1/MG1)

      Star to his Red Eagle Order 2nd Class with Oak Leaves

      Japanese Order of the Sacred Treasure, 1st Class (JZ1)

      Order of the Crown of Italy, Grand Cross (JK1/ItKr1)

      Imperial Persien Order of the Lion and the Sun, Grand Cross (PL1)

      Prussian Order of the Crown, 1st Class

      Crown to his Red Eagle Order 2nd Class with Oak Leaves and Star

      Red Eagle Order, 1st Class with Oak Leaves in 1906

      Richard von Winterfeld, Deutscher Ordens-Almanach, 1908.png

      Richard von Winterfeld, Rangliste der Königlich Preußischen Armee, 1905, p. 69.png

    9. Slowly but surely ... I know now he was born on 27 May 1847 at Rittergut Carwe (Karwe), Kreis Westprignitz, Regierungsbezirk Potsdam, Province of Brandenburg, Kingdom of Prussia, German Confederation ... I read, he died 1920 (maybe Münster or Blankenburg?), but cannot find a complete date. He joined the Kadettenkorps in Potsdam in May 1860 and was Sekondeleutnant in the Brandenburgisches Husaren-Regiment (Zietensche Husaren) Nr. 3 in 1866 (stayed there until 1891), taking part in the war of 1866 and 1870/71. No known children with his wife Hedwig Florentine Charlotte Louise Marie Freiin von Zedlitz und Neukirch aus dem Hause Pischkowitz. 

    10. On 31/08/2023 at 17:29, JohanH said:

      There were two von Winterfeld who got the Swedish order of the Sword 2nd class commander. 

       

      Hans Carl Hugo (your guy I presume) who was adjutant for the kaiser and

      Hans Carl who was oberst.

       

      Hans Carl Hugo von Winterfeld got the award on June 2nd 1875 and

      Hans Carl got it on January 21st 1914.

       

      Thanks so much! About the Oberst: I did not find a Oberst von Winterfeld in 1914, but I did find Oberst (later Generalleutnant) Hans Karl von Winterfeldt (1862–1931) in 1914 as commander of the Braunschweigisches Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 92. Could that be him? 

       

    11. Gentlemen, this is what I have on Hugo von Winterfeld, any additions or corrections would be great:

       

      Red Eagle Order (Roter Adlerorden), 4th Class with Swords (PRAO4⚔/PrA4⚔)

      Commemorative Cross for the Campaign of 1866 (Erinnerungs-Kreuz für den Feldzug von 1866)

      Saxon Albrechts-Orden, Officer's Cross (SA3)

      Iron Cross (1870), 2nd Class

      Order of the Crown (Württemberg), Knight's Cross 1st Class with Swords (WK3a.⚔/WK3a⚔)

      War Commemorative Medal of 1870–1871 (Kaiserliche Kriegsdenkmünze 1870/71; KD70/71)

      House Order of Hohenzollern, Knight's Cross with Swords (HOH3⚔)

      Baden Order of the Zähringer Lion (Orden vom Zähringer Löwen), Knight's Cross I. Class with Oak Leaves and Swords (BZL3a.mE⚔/BZ3a.mE⚔)

      Russian Order of Saint Stanislaus, 2nd Class with Crown and Swords (RSt2mKr⚔)

      Order of the Iron Crown (Austria), 2nd Class (ÖEK2)

      Red Eagle Order, 3rd Class with the Bow and Swords on Ring

      Baden Order of the Zähringer Lion, Commander 2nd Class with Swords (BZL2b⚔/BZ2b⚔)

      Order of the Crown of Italy, Commander (JK3)

      Saxon Albrechts-Orden, Commander 2nd Class (SA2b)

      House Order of the Wendish Crown (Hausorden der Wendischen Krone), Commander (MWK2b/MK2b)

      Swedish Order of the Sword, Commander 2nd Class (SS2b) on June 1875

      Order of Albert the Bear, Commander 2nd Class (AAB2b/AB2b)

      Italian Order of Saints Maurice and Lazarus, Commander (JMuL3/JM3)

      Prussian Order of the Crown (Preußischer Kronenorden), 2nd Class

      Commander of the Legion of Honour (FEL3/FE3)

      Prussian Long Service Cross for 25 years (Königlich Preußisches Dienstauszeichnungskreuz)

      Russian Order of Saint Anna (Sankt-Annen-Orden), 2nd Class with Diamonds (RA2mBr)

      Saxe-Ernestine House Order, Commander 2nd Class (HSEH2b/HSH2b)

      Russian Order of Saint Vladimir, 3rd Class (RW3)

      Red Eagle Order, 2nd Class with Oak Leaves and Swords on Ring

      Order of Henry the Lion (Herzoglich Braunschweigischer Orden Heinrichs des Löwen), Commander's Cross 2nd Class with Swords (BrHL2b⚔/BrH2b⚔)

      Friedrichs-Orden, Commander's Cross (Kommenturkreuz) 1st Class with Swords (WF2a⚔)

      Bavarian Military Merit Order, Commander's Cross (BMV2b)

      Commemorative plaque for the royal princes, general adjutants and wing adjutants (Gedenkzeichen für die Königlichen Prinzen, Generaladjutanten und Flügeladjutanten S.M. Kaiser und König)

      Star to his Red Eagle Order 2nd Class with Oak Leaves and Swords on Ring

      Hesse Order of Merit of Philip the Magnanimous (Verdienstorden Philipps des Großmütigen), Grand Cross (GHVP1/HP1)

      ... later classified as Grand Cross with Swords (GHVP1⚔/HP1⚔)

      House Order of Hohenzollern, Commander's Cross with Swords on Ring

      Order of Henry the Lion (Herzoglich Braunschweigischer Orden Heinrichs des Löwen), Commander's Cross 1st Class with Swords (BrHL2a⚔/BrH2a⚔)

      Saxon Albrechts-Orden, Commander 1st Class (SA2a)

      Franz-Joseph-Orden, Grand Cross (ÖFJ1)

      Military Order of Saint Benedict of Aviz (Militär-Orden San Bento d’Aviz), Grand Cross (PBd’A1)

      Order of Henry the Lion (Herzoglich Braunschweigischer Orden Heinrichs des Löwen), Grand Cross with Swords (BrHL1⚔/BrH1⚔)

      Order of Isabella the Catholic, Grand Cross (SJ1)

      Prussian Order of the Crown, 1st Class

      House Order of Hohenzollern, Commander's Star with Swords on Ring (Stern der Komture mit Schwertern am Ringe)

      Red Eagle Order, 1st Class with Oak Leaves and Swords on Ring

      Anniversary Oak Leaves (Jubiläums-Eichenlaub „25“ 1870/1895) to his Iron Cross (1870), 2nd Class

      Austrian-Hungarian Imperial Order of Leopold, Grand Cross (ÖL1)

      Saxon Albert Order, Grand Cross with the Golden Star (SA1mgSt)

      Bulgarian Order of Saint Alexander, Grand Cross (BA1)

      Knight of the Russian Order of St. Alexander Nevsky (RAN)

      Prussian Centenary Medal 1897 (Zentenarmedaille)

      House Order of the Wendish Crown, Grand Cross with the Crown in Gold (MWK1b/MK1b)

      Red Eagle Order, Grand Cross with Oak Leaves and Swords on Ring as well as the Crown

       

       

       

      winterfeld_hugo.jpg

    12. Gentlemen, this is what I have for Carl Gustav Ernst von Petersdorff (Ernst Karl Gustav von Petersdorff), retired 1897, any additions would be great. Short question: During the Franco-German War, he served in Mainz. Would he have gotten the War Commemorative Medal of 1870–1871 for non-combatants? Thanks!

       

      Prussian Order of the Crown (Kronenorden), 4th Class with Swords

      Prussian Commemorative Cross for the Campaign of 1866 (Erinnerungs-Kreuz für den Feldzug von 1866)

      Order of Philip the Magnanimous (Verdienstorden Philipps des Großmüthigen), Knight's Cross 1st Class (GHVP3a/HP3a)

      ... later, as of rank list 1894, classified with swords (GHVP3a⚔/HP3a⚔)

      War Commemorative Medal of 1870-1871 (Kaiserliche Kriegsdenkmünze 1870/71; KD70/71) in Steel on the Ribbon for Combatants (Band für Kämpfer)

      House Order of Hohenzollern, Knight's Cross (HOH3)

      Red Eagle Order (Roter Adlerorden), 4th Class

      Prussian Long Service Cross for 25 years (Königlich Preußisches Dienstauszeichnungskreuz; DA)

      Japanese Order of the Rising Sun, 3rd Class (JVAS3/JV3)

      Prussian Order of the Crown, 3rd Class with Swords on Ring

      Baden Order of the Zähringer Lion (Orden vom Zähringer Löwen), Commander 2nd Class (BZL2b/BZ2b)

      Order of the Iron Crown (Austria), 2nd Class (ÖEK2)

      Württemberg Order of the Crown, Commander (WK2/WK2b)

      Red Eagle Order, 3rd Class with the Bow

      Prussian Order of the Crown, 2nd Class with Swords on Ring (neck order)

      Italian Order of Saints Maurice and Lazarus, Commander (JMuL3/JM3)

      Austrian-Hungarian Imperial Order of Leopold, Commander (ÖL2)

      Russian Order of Saint Anna (St.-Annen-Orden), II. Class (RA2)

      Red Eagle Order, 2nd Class with Oak Leaves in 1893

      Star to his Prussian Order of the Crown 2nd Class with Swords on Ring

      Crown to his Red Eagle Order 2nd Class with Oak Leaves

      Grand Cross of the Mecklenburg Order of the Griffon (MGrO1/MG1)

      Order of the Iron Crown (Austria), 1st Class (ÖEK1)

      Star to his Red Eagle Order 2nd Class with Oak Leaves and Crown

      Prussian Order of the Crown, 1st Class with Swords on Ring

      Prussian Centenary Medal 1897 (Zentenarmedaille)

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