Most of my stuff is packed in boxes in my basement... so it will be difficult for me to check... but I'll keep an eye from now on while surfing the web... and as soon as I dig into my boxes again... Having said that, it is interesting to note that as time went by, the DDR tried to save as much as possible whenever and wherever they could... which meant, eg, a growing simplification in the production of uniforms. In this sense, what is strange is that the shorter collar tunic should be the later type, since the other one is saving on fabric... it should be the other way round... Very interestind indeed...