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Here's my 1st class set of Princely emission - with correct period case.
Made by Schwertner, marked as such inside the case and on the star.
Note how both cross and case have the same rounded princely crown.
According to T. Petrov in his book only 373 orders of 1st class were awarded, mostly to foreigners - 344. Only 29 to Bulgarians.
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fake Suhe Bator sold for $1585!
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On 11/20/2016 at 23:46, Igor Ostapenko said:
The Order of St. Stephen Grand Cross Awarded to Ferdinand I, Tsar of Bulgaria
Dealer web site shows this set as SOLD for $41,000!!!
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13 hours ago, 922F said:
May he rest in peace. Yes, as Paul states, a true gentleman, always quite willing to share information on a multitude of subjects.
In addition to his many other activities and honors, one of the very few persons decorated by present head of the House of Petrović-Njegoš with the Orders of Petrovic Njegos and Saint Peter of Cetinje upon their restoration as Montenegrian dynastic or House Orders. His other awards include decorations from Denmark and several former ruling families.
His awards (from Wiki)
National orders and medals
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Denmark : Order of the Dannebrog
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Russia : Medal "In Commemoration of the 300th Anniversary of Saint Petersburg
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Russia : Order of Friendship (20 June 2011)
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Russia : Order of Alexander Nevsky
Dynastic orders
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Montenegro : Knight of the Order of Saint Peter of Cetinje
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Montenegro : Knight of the Order of Petrovic Njegos
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Montenegro : Grand Cross of the Order of Prince Danilo I
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Bulgaria : Commander of the Order of St Alexander
Books on awards by D. Romanov:
The Orders, Medals and History of Greece. Balkan Heritage. 1987. ISBN 87-981267-1-7.
The Orders, Medals and History of the Kingdom of Bulgaria. Balkan Heritage. 1982. ISBN 87-981267-0-9.
The Orders, Medals and History of Imperial Russia. Balkan Heritage. 2000. ISBN 87-981267-4-1.
The Orders, Medals and History of the Kingdoms of Serbia and Yugoslavia. Balkan Heritage. 1996. ISBN 87-981267-3-3.
The Orders, Medals, and History of Montenegro. Balkan Heritage. 1988. ISBN 87-981267-2-5.
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This is the best collection of Bulgarian miniatures I've ever seen!
Minis are much rarer than the full size awards, as many of them were custom made.
Thanks for showing these!!!
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17 hours ago, ilieff said:The updated listBulgaria:
- Order of SS Cyril and Methodius
- Military Order "For Bravery"
- Royal Order of St. Alexander
- Order of Civil Merit
- Order of Military MeritGerman Empire
- Order of the Black eagle - Grand Cross
- Order of the Red Eagle - Grand Cross
- Imperial Military order of the Iron cross
- Pour le Merite with oak leaves (Military division)
- Order of Saint John (Ignore Order)
- Saxe-Ernestine House order - Collar and Grand Cross with diamonds
- Order of the Wendish Crown
- Military Merit cross (Mecklenburg)
- Hessen Order of Philip the Magnanimous
- Saxon Military Order of St. Henry
- Oldenburg Friedrich August cross - II class
- Bavarian Order of St Hubert - Grand Cross
Austro-Hungarian Empire
- Order of the Golden Fleece
- Order of St. Stephan - Collar and Grand cross with diamonds
- Military order of Maria Theresia - Grand cross
- Military Merit cross with war distinction - I class
- Order of VitezBritish Empire
- The Most Honourable Order of the Bath - Collar and Grand Cross
- Royal Victorian OrderRussian Empire
- Order of St. Andrew - Collar and Grand Cros
- Order of St. Alexander Nevsky - Grand Cross with diamonds
- Order of the White Eagle - Grand Cross
- Order of St. Vladimir - Grand Cross
- Order of St. Anna
- Order of St. StanislavFrance:
- Order of Holy Spirit
- Order of the Legion of Honour - Grand Cross
- Monaco Order of St. Charles - Grand Cross
- Order of The Academic palms - Gold classOttoman Empire
- High Order of Honour
- Gallipoli star (Iron Crescent)
Kingdom of Italy
- Order of the Holy Annunciation
- Order of St Maurice and Lazarus
- Constantine Military order of St George - Grand cross
- Order of St Januarius - Grand crossKingdom of Belgium
- Order of Leopold - Grand CrossKingdom of Romania
- Order of Carol I - Collar and Grand CrossKingdom of Portugal
- Military Order of the Tower and the Sword - Collar and Grand Cross
- Order of the Christ and St Benedict of Aviz - Grand CrossKingdom of Sweden
- Order of the SeraphimKingdom of Denmark
- Order of the White ElephantEmpire of Brazil
- Order of the Rose
- Order of the Southern CrossPrincipality of Montenegro
- Order of Prince Danilo I - Grand CrossKingdom of Yugoslavia
- Order of the Cross of Takovo
- Order of the Star of KarađorđeMalta
- Military order of St John of Jerusalem (Maltese order)The Vatican
- Order of Pope Pius IXPersian Empire
- Order of the Aqdas
- Order of the Lion and the Sun - Grand Cross
Medals and other decorations:
- Cross for XX years of faithful service
- Marian Cross of the German Knight Order
- Lippe-Schaumburg Loyal Service CrossI see both Bulgarian X and XX yr service crosses.
Also, for Montenegro - in addition to Danilo Grand cross there's 5th class on the medal bar.
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In reference to Hungarian St Stephen set sold by eMedals:
Footnote: This set of insignia belonged to Ferdinand I, Tsar of Bulgaria; the set was sold through auction house “Karlheinz Müller, Limburg”, on 23. September 1989, lot # 063. The lot was purchased by a well-known dealer California based dealer T. Eriksen, for an American client, and eventually, the set was sold to eMedals recently (full name of buyers and provenance will be disclosed to the buyer).
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Colleagues,
I have the same Sotheby's catalogue as Graf and can second his opinion that it's truly awesome!
One thing to keep in mind - not all orders in this catalogue were awarded to Ferdinand, despite some having precious stones on them. There were many lower class awards which were not suited to King/Knyaz, such as 3rd class crosses, as well as 6th class awards. 36 Bulgarian awards in total - no way he was awarded all of them.
Also, some important awards were not part of catalogue/auction, such as Serbian Karageorge 1st class set and others supposedly his.
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OMG! I hope no one buys these stars.
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Language on the label from the bottom of the box is Italian and the label looks old (likely from the period when this was awarded), so it's possible the recipient was from Italy. But you also have label on the front of the box with Number 4, perhaps inventory label from a museum or an auction. So, Italian awardee could be wrong guess.
As for the period - the set was made during Tsar Ferdinand time, between 1908 and 1918.
That's as much as you can get in terms of the name - an Italian recipient from 1908-1918.
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1st class set looks good, not sure why you say it didn't exist.
The cross is not the same as for 3rd class. It's the same size and both had green enamels, but differences are in center red medallion - 3rd class has lion in the center, while 1st class has elaborate name "St Alexander" in the center.
Unfortunately it's almost impossible to know the name of the awarded, unless you have document or box is labeled with the name. In this case only name and the grade is on the label.
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Vazov,
The thing to watch for the crosses without the swords - make sure the swords were not removed recently. There are some "conversions" out there, sellers trying to get more money by removing the swords and selling awards for 2x the price of normal Bravery crosses.
2nd cross is genuine, just in bad condition.
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27 minutes ago, V.Vazov said:
Hi New World,
I saw as well this order which is, as you know, a missing piece in my collection and I had a doubt as well.
To be honest, it is really well done and I think it can confuse. I'm not even sure what exactly bothered me in it.
I'd like to have your and Graf's advice on this one. What I see as bothering is:
- the lion in the center medalion does not have enough relief;
- the number 1 is too slim;
- the reverse is too rough and the attaching mechanism is too thick;
Overall I think, hélas, that for a fake it's damn well made....
What you think? By which details you recognise it is a fake?
Many thanks!
Vazov
I'd say all of the above, plus:
- green enamel is rough and has small holes,
- numbers 5 and 7 are wrong (as compared to known crosses),
- pin and catch hook are not typical of Bulgarian awards,
- letters in green circle.
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19 hours ago, Graf said:
I just found in my files one of the Viktor/Karissa Masterpieces
Only cross on the left is in question, correct?
Also, as far as I understand cross itself is likely original, but with added diamonds.
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You've got real rarity!
I don't remember seeing such type for sale. I checked all my books and only Prof. Pavlov has this type listed.
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Bulgaria Order for Civil Merit -1st Princely Model Crosses
in Central & Eastern European States
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That's correct observation.
In fact all my boxes for Civil Merit from princely emission have rounded corners. Keep in mind that there were not many of them awarded.