new world

Original cross for comparison - you can see than green centers are noticeably larger 

Back to the Bravery medals sold by eMedals - we assumed the cross is legitimate 2nd class cross, however another collector pointed that there are issues with that cross as well.

Problem is that central pieces are too small - meaning that diameter of circle with green enamel should always be larger than the circular opening on the cross itself. That is evident in any class, even with white enameled circles. If you look at the eMedals' cross from different angle, more from the side you can see this clearly that centers are about the same or smaller than the cross.

Which leads to the conclusion that cross is missing original centers and was assembled from parts of different classes.

This means than none of the awards sold in this lot are original! Even the sash is modern reproduction.

Now I feel REALLY bad for the buyer!    

On 1/13/2018 at 22:08, Igor Ostapenko said:

Picture from internet 

Same crest.

18 hours ago, new world said:

This "set" has 9 bids with 16 hours to go...this is so sad, people are fighting to get it, thinking they will be getting real thing!

Sold for $6,000 plus 20% auction fee, making the price $7,200. It had 11 bids when I checked few hours before auction end and 3 bidders.

I feel bad for the buyer, so much money for a fantasy set!

On 1/13/2018 at 18:16, Graf said:

Hi new World.

That was mu point in my previous posts The initial price of such an Award is very low. that means even Barry knows that this Set is questionable he sells single Stars of other Orders welll above this price  A very high price will scare the bidders who are not aware of the facts

 

The same Scenario we have witnessed over and over again remember all those strange SS Cyril and Methodius Sets sold in Europe They all were sold well bellow the price of the Real Original Sets Also all those strange Sets on ebay All sold bellow what could be the price for a real originals

I forgot to tell you the follow up story of the returned fake of the legion of Honour i discussed in post #31

The Seller re-listed it on his site and tripled the price After a while it vanished from his site either it was sold or he removed it (less likely)

Buyer be Aware Rule apply  Well Good Luck to the new owner One thing is for sure it is not me.

This "set" has 9 bids with 16 hours to go...this is so sad, people are fighting to get it, thinking they will be getting real thing!

Some photos in color.

1. Tsar Ferdinand

2. Tsar Boris, War Minister Daskalov, Prince Kiril

3. Tsar Boris

Thanks for the link!

Saving few more pics.

1. White leather covered box to store baton, badge on top of the case:

2. Daily wear version of the baton, not as elaborate:

1 hour ago, Graf said:

BTW Someone already put a bid on eMedals site, which mean regardless  of our remarks and opinions as you stated it will be always sold....most likely to a "lonely wolf' collector with deep pockets.

Also collectors similar to the the members of the "Grand Cross' Club who want to have the Set in their collection, who might be aware or not aware of our opinion.

Someone is thinking he's getting a bargain... That's actually very low price for a Grand Cross of Bravery, if it were to be legitimate!

2 hours ago, ilieff said:

The mythical King Boris III's fieldmarshal's baton ...

 

 

Astonishing!!! 

This Independence Cross looks like a crude copy - details are lacking, makers stamp unreadable, pitted surface.

On 7/26/2017 at 08:25, Igor Ostapenko said:

No, 

to Lt. General . 

( I'm not Soviet Awards collector and take few last medals of this man )

and few not soviet  awards 

This topic about Civil awards and this man was not only  Lt. Gen., mr. Kalchenko was Prime Minister of Ukraine  

I love his assortment of foreign awards!

On 1/1/2018 at 15:09, Egorka said:

...An interesting detail is that it appears ASAULENKO was a POW before his service in 1042 rifle regiment. We was liberated on 19 April 1945. His original service is indicated as a Private of 656 artillery regiment, 116 rifle division, 26 army. I think, he was captured in summer 1941 (but needs checking). 

 

So much for stories of all POWs being sent to Gulag...

Thanks for in depth research!

Amazing group!

Looks about right, nice set!

Wow! Can you post the rest of the photos?

most of these are common types

very cool, I love those VP uniforms!

I understand this was never worn, correct?

so cool!

Search this site, I am sure you will find lots of info on your area of interest.

Very nice cases! Please post more.

On 12/22/2017 at 12:17, Veljko said:

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Hi i actually made some changes and i think that this is 99% how it looked originally. Unfortunatelly I'm still missing Takovo cross with swords 4th class

 

Those ribbons for Takovo and medical cross - shouldn't they be different? 

How old is she now?

wow, I wasn't aware people paying so much for Chech awards! It seems like such a niche collecting.