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Inner corner,upper right -Deumer at the left

Inner corner,upper left-Deumer at the left

Frame 9 o'clock Deumer at the left

Frame 6 o'clock Deumer at the top

Frame 3 o'clock Deumer at the left

Frame 12 o'clock-Deumer at the top

The date-"Deumer" at the left

The "W"-again "Deumer" at the left

OK,here are the pics-the "Deumer" crown is at the left

Marshall, I'm not really happy with the piece shown in the linked older thread(you are talking about the first one?)..... And yes-it seems to be that there is a relationship between the"bad Godet" and the so called "theoretical Deumer".And I agree with you totally about the "fat crown" pieces of the 20ies.But there are not so many different variations as you might think! But anyway-give me an hour or two for new pics to show the relationship between Deumer and the Mutant! Micha

Hi Mike, it was never the question that this mutant could be something original! But from the comments here and in another place- no one pointed it out as what it is! OK,it was a little unfair,but it shows how good it is(just the obverse,of course)This one in hand can't fool somebody who has done his homework.But with a different reverse,no hooks and maker mark I think this could be a dangerous fake! I'm shure I've seen something with a regular pin at Ebay,but unfortunately I deleted the pics! All in all the one I've shown is number 3 I've seen the last few month.....but I'm shure it's not the last! Regards Micha

And the hooks......So in my eyes this one is a mutant! The core is not sofar away from a Godet,the frame was possibly made with an old,original tool.The maker mark was done also with a professional tool.But if I do all this work...why the hell have they used this pin and hooks? You can't fool someone who has done his homework and tell him this is a Godet with hooks.But with a "normal" pin and without this Godet mark this EK could be the first really dangerous copy at the marked.I would like to know what you are thinking about this strange one..... Micha

Another shot of the hinge

The catch-flat wire in a strange shape

Here's another pic of the hinge....look at the pin

A closeup from the hinge(a really big one)-again something I haven't seen before on a 1914 EK1.......

Some additional informations-this Ek is a 3 piece construction,but it's non magnetic!When I look at the frame I'mshure they used an original tool(look at the die flaws).Of course the pin doesn't match to anything right,and also the colour of the whole thing is strange enough tho let all alarmbells ring.Here's a closeup from the stamp(again good work)

I'm back-sorry for the week without an answer-I had to work somewhere at the black forest...no free internet at the hotel.Anyway,some of you might have thought"what's wrong with this idiot,why doesn't he show the backside of the EK?"I'm shure...ok-In my oppinion this iron cross is a fake.The complete backside:

That's a beauty!-and the "900" stamping is not so easy to find....well done,my friend! Micha

From the stamping at the ribbon ring I agree with you-it looks like "Pr."Another one to go.......btw-fantastic EK,Joe! Micha

The picture of the obverse isn't the best,but from what I can see it's a textbook "Deschler" L/10! And a very nice one....... Micha

This seller is the well known "Afrikaheld".............so what do you expect? but in another forum they said he's selling an original visor at the moment! Must be an error of him........ Micha

Ok,Gordon-any other opinions? Here are more than two EK collectors in this forum.......

Here's a saturday morning question for you-can you find out the maker? With a pic of the reverse it would be too easy,but compare the frame with the "Silber" marked ones...not identical,but.... Micha

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