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Andy, many thanks for these informations Kind regards, Komtur.

Dear forumites, for an article about Prussian orders on the white "Noncombatant" ribbon I would be glad to get some information about Dr. Karl Plagge. Best regards, Komtur.

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Ah, that?s the one I was searching for so far without success. The bar on this picture is unfortunately different in the non-combatant ribbon on the 1870 medal:

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:beer: Great bar found a good home! Congrats Kind regards, Komtur.

Yup. Don?t know. Don?t know.

Details, where you can see, wich one is minted and wich one is casted: Sorry Rick, for hijacking your thread - I will stopp this now Kind regards, Komtur.

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I do not know for sure, who made these medals, but most of the Doorn time items where made by Godet. There where 167 awarded in silvered bronze for the relatives and the loved ones. In bronze where given only 68 medals to the staff. But if you now are interested in such a medal, be carefull: casted fakes of the silver medals in silver are around:

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Oh what a shame, that we need the english speaking cousins to remember this date Mea culpa, mea maxima culpa On half the way back to little Willies birth this medal was given to the abiders in Doorn:

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A very special Godet-Spange because of its 3 battle clasps on the ribbon of the colonial medal:

my favourite Prussian order

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This "between the wars" officer medalbar I bought a few days before with its ribbonbar and lapel bow from another collector. Ribbonbar and lapel bow missing the 1934 cross and the Red Cross Medal 3rd class, so both must be made earlier then the medalbar. Interestingly the sequence of ribbons on these are different. IMO the ribbons on the lapel bow are in the correct order. On the back an interesting J.Godet & Sohn label, can?t remember if I have seen that one before. I like that group very much, but I am afraid there is not enough for an identification. The HOHX is silver gild Wagner & Sohn (W 938 marked), so it is awarded from 1916 on. Therefore it seems unlikely, that we have a late war Oberst/GM a.D. with the missing Crown Order on the neck Best regards, Komtur.

W?rttemberg Crown Order officer cross with swords. 1892 - 1918 about 160 awards (Nimmergut) Made by Foehr/Stuttgart, Carl Zinser/Stuttgart and K?nigliches M?nzamt Stuttgart. The showed cross is a golden one of Zinser. The cross wearing by B?low-Stolle seems to be a Foehr production because of the slightly different crown. The M?nzamt items are different in the style of the letters. Best regards, Komtur.

As always, I am fascinated by these detailed pictures. Austrian Franz Josephs Order Komtur cross. For comparison an original cross - not the one of B?low-Stolle!

Got today this portrait of Oberstleutnant von B?low-Stolle. Ehrenrangliste wiederverwendete inaktive Offiziere / Obersten a.D.: Gro?er Generalstab, Deutscher Vertreter b. K.u.K. ?sterr. Gen. Gouv. in Polen (Lublin) (sorry for not translating that, but better original in German than an incorrect tranlation)

Hi Paul, "Allgemeines Ehrenzeichen f?r Milit?rverdienst 1841-1866" (Hannover) General Medal for Military Merit. So not directly a long service medal but for "excellent military merit" for enlisted men. Accordingly to Nimmergut until 1860 the whole name and rank was engraved, after that only the first letter of the prename and the name. It was given inofficially by King George V. also after 1866 in his exile. Best regards, Komtur. BTW very nice bar of a soldier first fighting against and then with the Prussians.

Would be glad, if the bar was made in Frankensteins period of time Counting all the bad signs together, it seems to be a more "modern production". The bar came from J?rgen Jost, a collector and dealer in Bavaria. There was no possibility to give it back . So be careful with him ... Best regards, Komtur.

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