Alex K

Hi, Very nice, made by "Gebruder Huguenin" particularly with the case

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Alex K

Hi Claudius, glad to hear there is someone else that attaches ribbons to medals that come without one, I thought I was the only one!, as you say, they came with one, and in my opinion are not complete without one

It's no problem, prefer to learn rather than be wrong

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Just another update, another one with the garter, not a star but allied to one, nice mini, owned by Prince Albert, consort to Queen Victoria, Royal collection I assume

You could quite probably correct, I was working from memory, maybe a privately made piece, based on quality, I wonder if the official piece followed a similar design, I assume there was one. Regards

Just to update the thread, was having a rummage on my hard-drive and came across this, not a star but the complimentary badge for the Anhalt Order of Albrecht the Bear, from the British Royal collection trust I think

Sorry, no it isn't mine

Hi will do if I can find it now

edit, found it

27 minutes ago, saschaw said:

As neither "Prinzengröße" nor "Reduktion" are official terms, there are no actual rules about their sizes. I consider every centenary medal that is significant smaller than the award type a "Reduktion", avoiding the confusing term "Prinzengröße". Please keep in mind those were available for buy to everyone who felt the medal was too big for his medal bar... I think by now, I had at least two of that less usual "medium size".

Yes I fully accept that they were in not official and were available for those who felt the 40mm version was the "official" size, and being too large, that being so, the smaller versions were available at the time so are in my opinion a valid addition to the collector, regards

Good guess then?

Star below, saxe-ernerstine house order grand cross, (Saxony)?

Hi, guessing, not too dissimilar to the Portuguese order of Christ, regards

Hi just spotted, your message, thanks exactly what I was looking for, thanks, regards

Hi Thank for the details, I'll have a scour through their archives to see if I can find it

regards

Alex

Hi Thanks for the update on my early version, nice to know, would I be right in assuming that the ribbon would at that time have of a yellow/orange hue than the red currently shown?

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Alex

a couple of more pictures, the stamping is difficult to photo!

2 hours ago, saschaw said:

Thanks, Alex, for the additional picture! This one seems to be of very poor craftsmanship, and I really doubt it would have been worn by a Royal in the old days... maybe still good for a filler in the collection.

Yes I spotted that it doesn't have the sparkle, the others have, perhaps a one off private purchase, or a fake, who knows, pity I don't have a shot of the reverse

On 10/12/2014 at 21:14, VtwinVince said:

Great medal bar, you don't see White Falcons that often, and also the reduction Centenary Medal is nice. I doubt that this one is ID'able, not enough orders. What color is the backing cloth?

Hi is that reduced size centenary a 30mm prinzen?

46 minutes ago, saschaw said:

As with literally almost every Grand Cross grade of the German states' orders, the "Grand Cross" consisted of a badge/cross to be worn on the sash, and a breast star. The star shown by Taz is an odd, privately made star with a fancy fantasy design. May have been a wearer's copy, or may have not been. The Steinam made breast star - picture from the OMSA site, I think? - is an official award type from late 19th century.

Stuttgart auction house Eppli sold a marvelous Grand Cross ensemble, awarded in 1908 to Württemberg General der Infanterie z. D. Friedrich Wilhelm Ernst Julius Freiherr Pergler von Perglas (1827-1913), in their March 2017 auction. Check here for pictures and details of this incredible set.

Hi, yes  the one I posted is from the omsa site, it looked "official", the link is just what I was looking for, an amazing and rare set, thanks, with regards to the sash badge I've read that at around the begining of ww1 that the crown itself was dropped from all grades, I assume the GK was the same, perhaps I'm wrong, or pre-war awards kept the crown, after that awards were made minus the crown, taz, thanks for your additional input also, best regards, alex

Hi Taz, thanks for the information, yes it all helps, one additional question, the cross you posted appears to be a cloth type for sewing to the uniform, attached is the sash, currently on a dealers site, together with a "Type 3?" breast badge, what would have been attached to the sash, I assume there was something

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Hi Does anyone have any information regarding the Grand Cross of the order, it is mentioned in numerous places but whilst I've seen images of the Sash, and lower grades, I can't locate any details on the Grand cross, Did it exist? it states that very few were awarded, so is obviously rare, any details photo'd and dimensions etc appreciated

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Found this version in my files, a bit different, can't vouch for its authenticity but post for appraisal, Saxe Ernestine House order

Hi thank you for the link, regards

On 09/08/2007 at 19:46, Komtur said:

I believe in this nice little thread this one is missing:

Hi does anyone know the physical size of this grade?, Any help appreciated, regards

Hi, thanks for the interesting details, I agree that when you look at the originals examples the quality is amazing!, Regards

Hi, thanks, it's the only one I've ever seen, must be fairly uncommon, good luck in your quest. Regards

Just a quick update about recent additions, my mistaken belief that I'd bought a "Prinzen" version, when in fact it was a reduced size for medal bar wear, finally got myself a true "Prinzen" so I think I've got all known sizes (I hope) measure 29.5mm

attached

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