Alex K

Just a quick update about recent additions, my mistaken belief that I'd bought a "Prinzen" version, when in fact it was a reduced size for medal bar wear, finally got myself a true "Prinzen" so I think I've got all known sizes (I hope) measure 29.5mm

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Just for interest, attached images of two medal bars attributed to Prince Alfons of Bavaria, each shows the St Georges medal, given the very low numbers of the gold version made, are these likely to be "Gold" or "silver gilt" wearers copies, taking into account who he was?

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This might help

The last two, both pop up quite regularly in "Royal Circles"

British Queen Victoria Diamond Jubilee medal (Inner, inner, inner circles of royalty got it in gold I believe, sometimes with an "1897" clasp)

Swedish Oscar Jubilee medal  (For Royalty in his case)

Hi, my comments were slightly tongue in cheek To us collectors they are a dream, however, to the Royals, they may be seen as being more "Tools of the trade", where diplomacy is more important than historical value, I suspect that with the Order of the Garter for instance, when a recipient dies, the insignia are returned to the Central Chancellery for re-issue, to the next incumbent, inspection and repair would be carried out, the oldest so far I believe (Based on a TV documentary) a set still in use since the 18th Century,

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6 hours ago, Great Dane said:

The Danish Order of the Elephant. I believe the Queen has 2 versions - during a state visit from Britain a few years ago she contemplated wearing one of them, but gave up the idea due to the small enamel damage on both stars.

(Photo: Jakub Kaja on Wikimedia)

 

Interesting, Couldn't she afford to have them repaired?

On ‎22‎/‎08‎/‎2019 at 09:52, saschaw said:

As could I. The gartered St. George star of King George V of Hanover was possibly one of, if not the best German decoration that was for sale in the past years.

It was at Hermann Historica, Munich, offered in their 74th auction, May 2017, with a starting price of 40,000 Euro - and remained unsold. It the was re-listed in their following 75th auction, November 2017, at 25,000.- Euro. After a bidder fight, it went for 36,000.- Euro plus fees - almost what had been asked previously. And probably not too much, for those who can afford it. I couldn't.

 

Thanks for the additional pictures of these Royal treasures! I especially love the half-sized ones... so damn cute!

However, one picture was added by mistake: The Red Eagle Order 1st class star. This doesn't have a Garter, but the ribbon of the Prussian Royal Crown Order, a feature in use only from 1860s to 1880s to signify the wearer held both 1st classes of mentioned orders. Also, from the picture, it rather looks like one of Andreas Thies' offerings, none from the Royal Collection. However, those are almost as rare to find as gartered stars!

Hi yes I didn't spot my mistake until after I'd posted them, however I thought it was worth a look at, I'd have it in my collection

The reduced sizes ones are amazingly cute!

A couple more shots, (one not so good), Imperial Russian order of St Andrew

Hi, Thanks for the additional details, yes you're right, I got the name wrong, I shouldn't have really as its in gold lettering on the inner satin lining of the case!!, must pay more attention

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Hi, thanks for theexplanation, "HW" would be for Hermann Weiss, the national mark for silver is logical, what would the 589-36 signify?

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Alex

On ‎15‎/‎07‎/‎2013 at 10:54, JapanX said:

Unknown cavalier

The unknown Cavalier is none other than Rudolf Hoess, the commandant of KZ Auschwitz, the man next to him, Richard Baer, his successor, in the following image, Hoess is standing with Josef Mengele to his right, and Josef Kramer to his left, commandant of, amongst other places Belsen Kz, not a bunch of nice guys really, the images come from "The Auschwitz Album"

Hi all, I've just added this Commander class type II to my growing collection, could any of the experts decipher to markings? I've made them as clear as I can, any help appreciated

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Alex K

edit, just for comparison with my type I, never realise until side by side, it's considerably smaller

Interesting to see what they go for

Hi Thanks for the reply, I've decided to look for "Period made" examples, those normally used as museum displays etc, still copies I know but with a bit more "History"

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Great display of decorations, just to add for info, a few more with the garter, all from the Royal collection

To be honest I vaguely remember seeing and reading somewhere that medal ribbons for the navy are generally longer than for the army, other details you mention being correct, a figure of 4 inches (10cm) length for navy seems to ring a bell, can't for the life of me remember where I saw it, though, I'll have a good root around on my hard-drive just in-case I kept it

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Alex

edit found this, part extract army regulations 2012

You could try here

https://www.mycollectors.co.uk/content/medals/Medals-Wearing-Mounting.aspx

Hi, thanks for the additional information, never thought about the black forest connection, it actually makes sense when you think about it, regards

Hi thanks for the response, I will look in that direction, interesting

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Alex k

Hi all, I recently obtained this CDV, any chance the regiment can be identified? The cockade looks to me to be Wurttemburg

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Alex K

Very nice start?

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Hi, from the pictures (Bit dark), I would say they are both OK,

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Hi Thanks for the additional information, regards

Hi, thanks for the speedy reply, interesting and useful link, I was wondering if it could be municipal rather than military. Regards

Alex K

Hi all, a bit of assistance if possible, I came across this image (Part of), but don't recognise the collar tabs, they look military to me, if so, does anyone recognise them, branch of service etc, any help appreciated

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Alex K

Hi, nice group to have, regards

Hi, your new purchase looks very nice, and thanks for the kind comments, does your posted image just show the complete medal or just the ribbons, I can't seem to open the entire image? 

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Hi Gordon, thanks for the kinds words, in hand, they really do look as amazing as on the images, regards