Alex K

Lukascz i don't know if this helps

but regards

Alex

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Hi everyone very interesting, I must admit that I've never seen these conversions before, had I not have seen this post any cross looking like the ones posted that I may have come across, I would have dismissed as something produced by a biker in a silver plated M35 german helmet!!

you live and learn, very informative post

regards

Alex

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Hi Rick just noticed this posting, nice piece of paperwork and interesting to see, Is that his real name?

the reason for sticking my nose in is that I have the Attached document and decoration which matches yours, albeit different grade and period. The reason for my question is that unfortunately my knowledge of the cyrillic alphabet is more or less non existent now, although my father and grandfather etc came from that way. can you or someone you know translate the name of the person to whom this was awarded?

The actual document is, as you have said in your posting much to large for my scanner so I've had to scan two halves and post edit them together thats why I've also attached the name which may not be to clear on the full document.

Are there any records of these awards and as to why the recipient may have received them?

The decoration itself is of extremely fine quality but as yet I havn't found a maker mark, the ribbon is original together with a modern replacement, unfortunately no case.. my embossing in contrast to yours shows the civil version of the order

any help greatly appreciated technically I suppose I should have put this in the central European form as its neither Austrian or hungarian!

REGARDS

Hi guys my moneys on an Avro Manchester, the earlier and smaller version of a lancaster, or possible a Hudson

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Alex

Hi Tony a question, you say that the medal on the left is to T E Peacock and that he wasn't entitled to it, If it is named on the back, I assume its either a rename or a blank named with him?

Secondly the picture in the book from Taprell Dorling without the Nov date may just be a printing thing. The 1983 version of their book "Ribbons and Medals" makes no reference to a star without the nov date and the only pictures shown are 1914 and 1914-15 stars with nov date

It makes me think that either they knew the basic shape of the star but were without for whatever reason full date details, since the time between approval and actually making and presenting the medal may have been considerable, or just that the Typesetter missed it off, IMO

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Alex

IMHO its a fake, the pin just isn't right, and as mentioned there is an awful lot of this stuff coming out from Russia and Poland etc, never seen an original 1935 ek1 stamped 800

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Jeff thanks for the info

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Alex

Hi Christophe very moving and an impressive place, it is edifying to think that countries build specific memorials to their countrymen who fell defending their country and beliefs, to me in this situation it doesn't really matter if they are original or repro, the message of so many medals on display seems to highlight the numbers of people involved.

However If I put my medal collectors hat on, it is has bit of a "Wow" factor to it

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Alex

Hi, don't know if this is the right place to post this, so if not could the moderator please move or delete.

I was having a rummage in my box of "Things long forgotten" and came across this. It was given to me if memory serves correctly by the brother of a soldier that served there at the time.

Are these collectible or is it just a quirky curio, BTW never been used

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Alex

Would you replace the ribbons or prefer to keep like they are

BTW any chance these could be original ribbons

Hi Ed I agree with other comments, fantastic collection

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Alex

Thats a pretty awsome colletion you have, its difficult to tell from the photo, but are the ribbons original watered silk or the later replacements? they do to me look like watered originals? Indian recipients is a long ignored field, when you consider that they formed a vital part of the overall strength of the British forces involved in the first and second world wars

Brian I think the important thing here is, and personally I think you should be congratulated from rescueing these, most collectors or dealers may have looked at them and thought what a load of junk and they may well have ended in the trash can. Your keen eye for something different has indeed saved them, additionally the guy who's original medals they were and possibly the guy that changed them have not been consigned to the dustbin of history and forgotten, Hope you find more info on this interesting pair

good luck

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Alex

Funnily enough I quite like, them, they're certainly different and add a little bit of additional interest to your collection

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Alex

Hi Ed, Thanks, your'e quite right of course, this is where British medals, early ones at any rate score over other countries, they were named which gives the opportunity to find out to some degree what these guys went through.

You're also quite right that replacement ribbons for these are not the best quality, the originals being "Watered", I do however have the originals to these medals, which are in quite a good condition. My "Thing" is to mount some medals in frames for display, and to make them look "Pretty" I tend to change the ribbons, just my personal preference

example attached

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Alex

Eccleshall, boots sale! about 1/2 hour drive from me, I think I'll go, you never know, presumably these went for a boot sale price, nice find

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Alex

Hi 1914 star set.

Awarded to from right to left

1914 star & Bar to L9661 Pt E W Evans 1/E Surrey regiment

1914 star with dates to 9172 Pte W H Warner R.Irish Rifles

1914 star to 14594 Pte S Wootton North Staffs Regiment

not a great deal of research done yet but I'll get there eventually

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Hi ricky1972 I'll do just that. As I have never really collected South American Awards, (A lost opportunity) what sort of prices are we talking about? as looking at these they are some really attractive pieces, I must be honest the ones you've posted with what I call the Aztec influence really excite me more than those based on similarities with established European orders.

any help appreciated

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Alex

A couple more

The one with OLS is a three piece construction, the OLS are HAND ENGRAVED on the reverse with I think L/16 or something like that, the other one is a one piece, but die stamped not cast, looks quite good also, to those who are not familiar with RK's being three piece could in a few years of patination be dangerous.

BTW the ribbon for the one with OLS is actually to the one piece I posted before this.

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Alex

Hi Got one, had the identical oaks n swords also, lost them however, paid ?10 ukp for it, and thought I'd got a genuine RK bargain as well Just goes to show

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Alex

Definately Souval with the unique ribs on the beading corners

Alex