christerd

While looking through papers in the War archive in Stockholm Sweden , I found an interesting letter about this

Danish officer who was seeking service in Finnsih Airforce April 4th 1918 during the Liberty War .

He had been taking into hospital after attacking a servent and was considered to have weak nerves , but he was an excellent pilot and the Finnish Air Force , returned the letter and said he was welcome !

He had his flying License in Germany 1914 if I am right ? As a student

I wonder what happened to him ?

If I find anything I post here

Thanks ! Nice to close the question about this one

I thought he should have a flying badge , and not anyone close to be named Wieshofer in JG 1

He must have been some sort of staff Off during WW II , I suppose .

Christer

Maybe a little off topic but I thought I must show you this pic of one of the " soldiers " who fought and died in the war in Finland 1918

The Swedish boy Styrbjorn von Stedingk was just 16 years and 10 months when he was killed during the assault on Tammerfors

in April 1918, a sad reminder of the price we pay for freedom. Here he is in his scout uniform.

340 Swedish soldiers joined the the attack on Tammerfors and 37 of them stayed on the battlefield.

Great Pic Andreas !

Thanks

A new name to my list of FFrK III x 1918

Christer

Thats a fantastic piece Mikko !

One of the nicest I´ve seen

Even if reserach going on I give a couple of more names just to check if I´m right

Liberty Cross 1st Class without Swords with Breast Star 1918 2 awarded

Lauri J Ingman

Pehr E Svinhufvud

Both Finnish Politicians.

One thing I learned the last days is that my numbers for awarded Liberty Crosses is far to low

I thought there where only 509 3rd class 1918 awarded but the real numbers must be more than 1000 !

Also 2nd Class 1918 I thought 152 awarded but the real numbers is closer to 300 , they are not so rare as I thought.

The same goes probably for 4th class , I already seen that I have more names for 4th classes wo X and with Red Cross then I thought was awarded in total. It will be interesting to see the final numbers someday.

Christer

Hopefully the research about Finnish awards will be published in some way, otherwise it will be lost with the researcher.

Liberty Cross 2nd Class w oakleaves 1941 - None awarded to Germans as far as I know

Liberrty Cross 2nd Class w swords 1918 - How many to Germans ?? I have names of 22 to Germans

names coming ...

Liberty Cross 1st Class without Swords 1918 awarded to Germans ? ? a handful at most

Lothar August von Brück Diplomat

Von Kühlman ?

Arthur Zimmermann Diplomat

and Fürst Hohenlohe Austrian Diplomat ?

Liberty Cross 1st Class 1918 35 awarded of those to Germans ?

Werner Crantz

Ernst von Hülsen Hauptmann

Walter Isendahl Admiral

Louis Leisler Kiep

von Luck Oberst Leutn RIR 225

Anyone knows any others ?

Christer

Great a new name for a 1st Class 1918 Libert Cross , thats not often and I never heard of Louis Leisler Kiep before

An great ribbon bars there Christophe , it looks like the swords are gold on the last one probably meaning a third class 1918.

I will soon be back with more names of Germans !

Christer

That is strange

There was only 1 awarded Finnish 1st Class medal Order of Liberty with bow

and that was to Mannerheim .....

Have I missed something

^{More Liberty Crosses from the top}

Liberty Cross 1st Class w Oakleaves (meaning 2nd award of same class) 18 awarded to Germans

Karl Bodenschatz Gen der Flieger

Franz Böhme Gen der Inf

Rolf Carls Gen Admiral

Erich Fellgeibel Gen der Nachrichten Truppe

Alfred Jacob Gen der Pioneere

Ferdinand Jodl Gen der Gebirgs Truppe

Bodewin Keitel Gen der Inf

Phillipp Kleffel Gen der Kavallerie

Herbert Osterkamp Gen der Artillerie

Conrad Patzig Admiral

Friedrich Paulus Gen Feld Marschall

Julius Schulz Gen der Flieger

Ferdinand Schörner Gen Feld Marschall

Hans-Georg von Seidel Gen der Flieger

Frhr Thilo-Georg von Werthern GenMaj der Artillerie

Karl Weisenberger Gen der Inf

Bodo von Witzendorff Gen der Flieger

Albert Wodrig Gen der Artillerie

Liberty Cross 1st Class 1941 74 awarded to Germans

Karl Allmendinger Gen der Inf

Eduard Ausfeld Oberst

Richard Bazing Gen Maj der Pioneer

Wilhelm Becker Gen Leutn Luftwaffe

Wilhelm Berlin Gen der Artillerie

Dr Kurt Bingler Gen Stabs Arzt

Reimar von Bonin Konter Admiral

Hero Breusing Gen Maj

Theodor Buchardi Admiral

Erich Buschenhagen Gen der Inf

Leopold Bürkner Vize Admiral

Hans Bütow Konter Admiral

Kurt Böhmer Konter Admiral

Dr Leonardi Conti SS Obergruppführer

Hans Degen Gen Leutn der Gebirgs Truppe

Karl Demelhuber Gen der Waffen SS

Kurt Dittmar Gen Maj

Erwin Engelbrecht Gen Leutn

Waldemar Erfurth Gen der Inf

Nikolaus von Falkenhorst Gen Oberst

Rudolf Gercke Gen Leutn

Otto Gille SS Ober Gruppen Führer

Ernst Goettke Gen Maj

Heinrich Gärtner SS Oberführer

Wilhelm Hasse Gen der Inf

Peter Hansen SS GenMaj

Georg Ritter von Hengl Gen Maj

Adolf Heusinger Gen Maj

Alexander Holle Oberst Luftwaffe

Iwan Huenert Gen Leutn

Rudolf Hünermann Gen Maj

Ferdinand Jodl Gen Maj

Heinrich " Heino" Jürs SS GenMaj

Heinrich Kittel Gen Maj

Mattias Kleinheisterkamp SS Gen Maj

Kurt Kleinrath Gen Maj Luftwaffe

Otto Klüber Konter Admiral

August Krakau Gen Maj

Hans Kratzert Gen Leutn

Hans Kreysing Gen Maj

Dr Rudolf Lipf Gen Arzt

Walter Lorenz Gen Maj Luftwaffe

Bernhard von Lossberg Gen Maj Luftwaffe

Gerhard Matzky Gen Maj

Gerhard Medem Gen Maj

Heinz Nordmann Admiral

Christian Phillipp Gen Maj

Georg Radziej Gen Maj

Wilhelm "Willi" Raitel Gen Maj

Gerhard Reus Gen Maj

Herbert Rieckhoff Gen Leutn Luftwaffe

Franz Rossi Gen Maj

Karl Rübel Gen Maj

Horst Rössing Gen Maj

Xaver Sattler Gen Maj Luftwaffe

Ernst Schlemmer Gen Maj

Hubert Schmundt Vize Admiral

Rudolf Schmundt Gen Maj

Karl Seber Oberst

Felix Steiner SS GenLeutn

Werner Stichling Admiral

Fritz Thiele Gen

Hermann Tittel Gen Leutn

Werner Wachsmuth Oberst

Eduard Wagner Gen Maj

Otto von Waldau Gen Maj Luftwaffe

Martin Wandel Gen Maj

Walter Warlimont Gen Maj

Kurt Weckmann Gen Leutn

Wilhelm Wegener Gen Maj

Otto Will Gen Maj

Paul Winter Gen Maj

Ernst Wirtsch Gen Maj

Hans-Helmuth von Wühlisch Gen Maj Luftwaffe

I will try to continou with 1st Class 1918 awards (wich is much tougher)

All the best Christer

Here is the first Germans with Finnish Awards

There is a few Higher grades awarded but they are extreme

Liberty Cross 1st Class X and Brillianten 1918 2 awarded

Rüdiger von der Golz GenMaj

Hugo Meurer Vz Adm

Liberty Cross 1st Class X Breast Star and Oakleves 1941 3 awarded to Germans

Eduard Wolrath von Dietl GenOberst

Franz Halder GenOberst

Georg von Küchler Gen Feld Marsch

Liberty Cross 1st Class X Breast Star 1941 11 awarded to Germans

Ernst Busch Gen Feld Marsch

Wilhelm Canaris Admiral

Waldemar Erfurth Gen d Inf

Kurt Fricke Admiral

Rudolf Gercke Gen d Inf

Hans Jeschonneck Gen Oberst

Alfred Jodl Gen Oberst

Günther Korten Gen Oberst

Georg Heinrich Lindemann GenOberst

Julius Felix Steiner Gen SS

Kurt Zeitzler Gen Oberst

More to come

Fantastic Bar !

I dont have any German Officer with BMVO and only a Medal 1st class , could it be Navy ?

Christer

Mikko your ribbonbar is almost certain a 2nd Class and a 3rd Class , the ribbon för the 2nd Class is different and

The devices are in silver för 4th Class and Gold för 3rd Class.

Tanks Dave ! Now I have a couple of more names.

Christer

Fantastic Pierce !!

I got some new names there , I will make a list of all Germans with Finnish Awards I have in Excel format and post on the forum

so can we see if we can update it.

Christer

If anyone have names, documents or similar on Germans who got Finnish awards from 1918

I would be most grateful to see them.

I´m trying to do a list over as many as possible awardees with liberty Crosses and medals from 1918.

I still miss a lot so all help is appreciated

Christer

Ohhps , just realized that I don´t have any known German with the combo 1918 3rd and 1941 2nd

What was the name of that Saxon Officer Dave ?

I love to get one more name to my never ending research

Christer

It could be two 1941 Crosses like : Franz Augsberger , he got 3rd class 1941 and 2nd class 1941

Hans Collani also 3rd / 2nd + Eastern Front Medal

I think I have all German who got 1941 Crosses , and these was the only I found with both 2nd and 3rd class.

I have only 20 names for 1918 3rd class Cross to germans so there is a " black hole" there, probably a 3rd class 1918 then.

Christer

Ha I found the old thread were this was discussed 2008 ! , (House Order of Hohenzollern thread)

and one of the conclusions was that the blue ribbon was a Crown Order and not a Long Service award.

Christer

Christer-- somebody who was a rerve officer in ... Reserev Jäger Bn 7 srving in the "triangle" with K.B. RJB 1 and RJB 9...

and everybody who knows me knows what THAT means....

The man is back

Alpenkorps ? Or am I on the wrong track ...

And that pic of Smeagol sure looks a bit like my neighbor ......

Christer

Thanks TacHel and Chrisophe ,

I don¨t think there where any official cases for these crosses , the only one I´ve seen has been German ones probably bought private.

It is strange since the Order of White Rose have original cases and also Order of the LIon but not this one ?

Christer

Thanks Jani , interesting to know that Steinhauer & Luck have started to make 2nd class Liberty crosses !

When taking in consideration the quite few 2nd class crosses awarded 1918 and 1941-1944 to germans and thinking of the extreme few that are alive today and in need of a replacement cross you wonder ....

And since they are somewhat better " Göde" copies in my eyes , the price is

Here is my 4th class by S & L. side by side with a genuine 1941 Cross

I will keep an eye open for more S&L Liberty crosses , waiting for a 1st class .....

Christer

The golden one is badge of the merit of the Liberation war invalids association. It is very small compared to the actual Liberation war wound badge (Picture attached).

Jani

Wow , Thanks Jani , first one I have ever seen

Now on my wanted list ..... together with a MB E-63 AMG , and Yacht and some other small things

Christer

New arrival to my collection

After a long long time I finally found a Order of The Liberty Cross 2nd Class !

This is a 1918 version awarded with swords , maybe to a German soldier...

Only 115 was awarded of 2nd class in 1918 so its quite a challenge to find one these days .

From left to right - top row

2nd class 1918 , 3rd class 1939 Civil Merits , 3rd class 1941 , " Widow" Cross 1941, " Widow" Cross 1941

4th Class with Oak Leaves 1941 , 4th class 1941 , 4th class 1918 , 4th class 1939

Next one I´m looking for is the Red Cross versions ..... Rare

Christer