christerd

Thats a First Class Liberty Cross so only 72 Germans got it and after deleting Waffen SS, KM and LW and some who don´t look at all like your pic I´m down to about 40 .... hmm have to wait for a better scan of the ribbon bar then we got him

Christer

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Ohhhhh I love the bars with Life saving medals on them ! And it must be rare with Braunschweig "horse" for frontline service to a Saxon officer or ?

Just Super !

Christer

One for your list:

Dr. German Bülle, born 18 January 1896, received all three as a Leutnant in Pi.-Btl. 9, along with the EK1 and the Wound Badge in Black. He received the Ehrenkreuz für Frontkämpfer on 20 February 1935. This would match your ribbon bar, but only for another 18 months. He received the Wehrmacht Dienstauszeichnungen 4. bis 2. Klasse on 2 October 1936. He added the KVK2X on 1 September 1942 as Leiter der Militär-Geographischen-Gruppe Saloniki-Ägäis.

Wow , what a interesting unit Militär-Geographischen-Gruppe Saloniki-Ägäis . He sure is a candidate

I must see if I can find anything about Pi Btl 9. Thanks Dave and Matt I will have you in first line if I´m going to sell it !

Christer

Recently I bought this from a well know forum member who was a fantastic homepage for selling Imperial stuff ( maybe I get a discount next time if make some advertising )

Well well , over to the bar itself ....

A quite typical mid thirties ribbon bar with EK - Lübeck Cross - Bremen Cross - Hamburg Cross - Honor Cross

This is my first eibbon bar with all three States and I belive its quite unusual .

I started looking through the few lists I have and on the net and found so far only 7 with this combo, and yes one is von Ritchofen

and No this isn´t his bar

So far I got 1 Candidate who didn´t get anything more eccept a EK 1 but I suppose I have to wait for the Lúbeck-Bremen-Hamburg rolls to find this three city Soldier

Does anyone have any names on officers awarded with all three Hansa ? So I can add to my short list ....

Have a nice sunday all !

Christer

:unsure: Is it my computer or ? I can only see one ribbon bar , unusual made but looks good to me

Christer

Hi Christer,

One new name for you :

KS Hauptmann Klaus Groth has received the knight cross 2nd class of Schwert Order on 9.01.1914.

Christophe

Aha ! One of the missing early 1914 ones

Thank you Christophe , I will add him to the next supplement

Christer

Aha , Thanks Dave , I don´t think I ever seen this on a ribbon bar ! But it seems to be quite often awarded to navy personal ?

Christer

When reading "Marineverodnungsblatt " I found this award ?

What is it and what does it look like ? What I can see it was awarded in Silber, Gold and like here with 50 ...

Christer

Aha , so they were real I hate when they have secret bidders , you don´t know if you are outbidding some good friend or not I suppose the first one is for some High ranking Staff Off ? I´ve learned that the men in the trenches didn´t get much "bling-bling" but the guys far behind the front that drank a cup of tea with Prince zur so and so... and von that and that ... got a lot of awards. The second ribbon bar looks like a "real" fighter super nice !

Christer

Anyone here who was the lucky winner ? one eleven awards long with Sachsen, Braunschweig,Waldeck, and god knows what , and another 7 awards long with Sachsen goodies ...

Real beauties but very expensive close to 400 Euro for two bars , but quite bad pics and no returns.

Maybe it was this years best deal

Have a good collectors 2012 everyone

Found out that Georg Röver LtdR RIR 74 got a HHoX sept 1917 so he is a candidate so far ! He brother was killed same year

He survived the war ending in hospital with broncitis ? spring 1918 and was discharged from Army 27th Nov 1918 as Leutn dR

Died 1960 in Oldenburg probably because of his war wounds (gas )

Christer

Thank you Dave

Great work , if I were in that position I would give you a Grand Commander Cross of Sword Order !

at least I can give you a pic .....

;)

A new update is ready for delivery !

app 100 names , now with Grand Cross ( among them Hermann Göring ! )

another famous Sword Order winner was Karl Dönitz , with this I think I have about 90-95 % of all Germans with Sword Order from 1914-1945 what I miss is the earlier ones and maybe a few from the above time frame.

But I have already oredred a couple of new books so I will return with more updates.

Christer

Thanks Chris and Glenn I wonder if Paetzke was glad to have this "idol-photo" on the wall ?

And the later pic of Lange was perfect , he becam a real writer after the war and got the Bundesverdienstkreuz in 1958 ! (an early one there)

Fantastic what story a lonely photo could tell

Thanks again Gentlemen people like you make this forum :beer:

And last the backside with writing .....

Thanks in advance for any help

Christer

And a closeup of the shoulderboard

I don´t think I have shown this pic before have I ?

What I can see is that he is a Hauptmann and some sort of Artillery I think ?

I belive I can see a copule of crossed canons on his shoulderboards but what unit had these ?

There is some sort of writing on the back but I cant read it more than 33 ..... and the photo is taken in Kiel ?

Could anyone help me with this mystery ?

First Photo from the front

Hallo Ulsterman, right now I´m just trying to list Finnish awards and Swedish Sword Order to Germans , but I would like to

look at Bremen, Hamburg or Lübeck since they are in so many groups and ribbon bars ....

But maybe I will do something completely different , a much ignored award that I dont think anyone have make a roll for

Württemberg CharlottenKreuz ... maybe I can then ID my small ribbon bar ?? se topic http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/topic/48958-a-ribbon-bar-to-lippe-doc/page__hl__%2Blippe+%2Bdoc__fromsearch__1

It seems that the Charlotten Rolls are in the archive, so now I will try my Deutsch and see if I can get a copy in some way .

Best regards from Sweden

Christer

The main problem is that even the rolls published is impossible to find

I have read that Württemberg WO 1x is published for example , but I have never seen it.

Meanwhile I do my own databases piece by piece

Christer

_{All quite on the Rolls front} Anyone knowing something to be published 2012-2013 ?

Meanwhile I keep on on my own

Christer

P.S.

What imaginative name was he listed under?

Best

Chris

It was really a small misstake but crucial to not finding him He was under HitzselSberger .... only an s but it did that he didnt turned up

Right now I´m looking through old ranklists and Staatskalenders to find another "mission impossible" a soldier with all three Hansa Crosses , the search goes on

Christer

Hi Christer,

Do you want all others datas for Zähringen Order ? If so let me know I will give them here.

Christophe

Yes , That would be super ! Interesting to see how many that was awarded and in what numbers they went to foreigners like Swedes

Christer

:jumping:

Got him ! Puhh had to look through about 450 names before he turned up , and wrong spelling of course.

Christer

Thanks Christophe !

I looked in my Swedish books and found 9 or 10 easily , maybe my next project should be Zährlinger Löwen

Christer

Lovely Ribbon bar Christophe !

How many was awrded this combo , It couldn´t be that common could it ? And in this "super saxon" style

Christer