christerd

Thanks Christophe

More will come !

Here is a interesting ribbon bar ,

First Liberty Cross 4th class at the front (probably 1918 ) then Liberty Cross for civilian/non fighting 1939 ? , 1918 medal with rose for bravery and 1939 medal wo swords probably for behind front work.

Someone who fought bravely in 1918 and got the medal + Liberty Cross , then joined the force again during winter war and got a second liberty cross this time for non fighting. These Nc ribbon bars devices are quite hard to find.

Another ribbon bar , notice the strange fastener ! ordinarie screws .... must made som real holes in the uniform and often seen on old Finnish ribbon bars

Here we have Bravery medal 2nd class 1918 - 1918 medal - winter war 1939 medal - Tampere 1918

Here is another one :

1st Class bravery medal 1918 - 1918 medal - Tampere 1918 - Aunus Commemorative Cross

And of course I have some ribbon bars from 1918 war period !

Here is one with : Medal for Winter War 1939 , Medal for Tampere 1918 , Aunus Commemorative Cross , and 1918 medal

Backside of the medal .

One of the hardest battles in the 1918 war , was for the city Tampere 3-6 april 1918, and in August 1918 come a medal for the memory of the battle

ribbon is green with white and yellow stripes .

The smallest Libert Cross in my collection is this 1918 miniature

compare to the normal size to the left, The quality of these small crosses are fantastic !

And the backside of the crosses with 1918 in raised position, notice the swords that are double sided, later in 1941 crosses they are flat on the backside .

Now the nest level of award if you where for ex a Leutnant in German Ostsee division 1918 , was probably the Liberty Cross 4th Class

These crosses was awarded in four classes 1st , 2nd , 3rd and 4th , There was some higher special classes like Great Cross with Swords and Diamonds 1 !! Awarded to Wilhelm II .... and some more extreme ones awarded in < 10 pieces each.

The first class was a neck order 49 x 49 mm with yellow ribbon 41 mm wide with two red stripes . The 1st class has enamelled cross and is of outstanding quality made in germany by the firm Otto Oertel who made all of the 1918 liberty crosses 1-4th class.

2nd class was a breast order 38 x 38 mm otherwise similar to 1st class, 3rd and 4th classes was without enamel on the cross, swords/cross on 3rd class in gold , while 4th class in silver.

Also there is cross for civilian and medics , and since the fighters cross are quite rare all others are even harder to get

I have only the lower 4th class in my collection , here you have two typical ones , the first in normal Finnish style with the rosette ribbon and the other one

most possible given to a German since you often find these without the rosette ribbon , and instead with a piece of red/white ribbon.

And the backside of the medals with the words "From the People of Finland" 1918

Now the next award from 1918 is the Liberty Medals , the where in two classes , the first class made of silver and second class of Bronce

Both medals was made by Sporrong & Co Sweden and the silver one is marked with Swedish markings for silver and year letter Q7 = 1918

Interesting is that also the Bronce medal from 1918 is marked Q7 for year and B for Bronce , this is normally never done on Swedish medals not made in Silver but in these 1918 medals they are marked like this.

The front shows a Lion with sword and the Finnish word " URHEUDESTA" meaning Bravery this is also written in Swedish at the bottom.

on the backside it is written " Suomen Kansalta" or " from People of Finland " and year 1918 . The ribbon for 2nd Class is Red with two yellow stripes and the 1st class is blue with two narrow white stripes.

These medals was given to both Finnish and Foreign military for bravery and by rank so medals was normally awarded to Privates and NCOs

About 5000 1st class medals was awarded , and about 8000 2nd class , there was also medals awarded to doctors and nurses these medals have a red cross on the front below the lion and are very rare . The third and last version was the medal for homefront duties , the medals are the same but the ribbon is green with ablack stripe in the middle and two red ones on the edges.

And here is the backside of the medal showing the Finnish Lion .

Hi, just want to show my awards from Finland. i don´t have the $$$$$$$ stuff , but still got a collection worth showing I think.

I start from the beginning in 1918

My first item is a Commerative medal for participating in the war 1918 , made by Sporrong & Co Stockholm Sweden in about 100 000 pieces

given to all that took part in the war , including Germans +12000 and Swedish + 1000.

This medal have the bar 2 Karjala Rintama " which means Carelian Front , they could also be awarded with a rose on the ribbon for bravery.

Thank you , I think the war in 1918 is very interesting and the awards are of course most of interest

From what I can find in my sources the medal for participation in 1918 war was ordered in 100 134 pieces

and of these about 7000 went to Finnish woman (some more to foregin woman, mostly Swedish I suppose)

A interesting fact is that only 162 Woman from Finland got Liberty Cross 1918 and only 4 got the 3rd class wo swords most were 4th class w Red Cross .

Here is two from my collection one with a very faded ribbon and the other with a bar "Karjalan Rintama"

Christer

Ver nice

Is there anything you miss in your collection ? :rolleyes:

Aha, thanks Daniel

Then it must be Heudecker FwLt LIR 121 BMVK 1 Klasse mit Schwerten March 6th 1915

Nice to have him Id

Christer

And a better scan of the officer

Christer

Here is a Photo with Uoffz from Ers Batl 123 ravensburg October 1915 .

The man in the middle with a cross on him is Anton Frick and in two years time he will be killed an leaving a young wife and two daughters behind

But now I´m not wondering about Anton, I am curios about the Officer beside him.

A würtemberg Officer with BMVK 1 .... or BMVK 2 ?? There cant be that many candidates , He also have som other awards, could anyone see what rank he have ?

With the Rolls for Non Würtemberg awards to Würtemberger published I should be able to find him.

Christer

I am also thinking that the last one is something other than Centennial medal , there is some foreign medals with yellow ribbon

Siam ,Romania or maybe its some sort of inoffcial award ?

Here is a thread on a Swedish forum where the bar is discussed http://www.samlarforum.nu/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=16764 there you can see who won it .... but no one could offer any help on the Swedish forum .

Christer

Thanks in advance Claudius

I saw the medal bar on Ebay also but it wasn´t me who won it , but it went to another Sweden collector , I don´t know him but his a member at this forum

Have a nice summer all !

Christer

Just bought this rather unusual ribbonbar

At first it looks like any other private/Nco/officer bar with EKII - HEK - Hungarian WW 1 Med - Bulgarian Bravery Med - and ....

Yes Official medal from Olympics in Sweden 1912 - and I think a 1897 medal at the end

The 1897 seems a little bit odd to put after three foreign medals but stranger things have happen before .

I wonder if there is a list of all Germans who participated in 1912 Olympics ?

If that last one is a 1897 he must have been ? 20 then ?? which means around 35 years old 1912 so probably competing in Shooting or

Horseriding etc and then into WW 1 (on eastern front) and survived

Hmm Interesting

Christer

Wow talk about fast answer

Thanks William and Bavaria

Here is a better pic of the swords

Christer

Next Cross is a little more Brownish in colour and lies in a box from Christian Lauer , but what maker ?

Thanks in advance for all help, I know there are some real experts out there on these crosses :cheers:

Another MVK III , in Box from Jacob Leser , but is it a Leser Cross ?

I would like to get a box to every maker at least III class , 2nd class and above is so expensive so I´m glad if I just can afford a box at all

Christer