demir

Dear Auseklis,

Thank you very much, you finally found BB&Co.,

Demir

NORTH STAR (Kutup Yildizi or Simal Yildizi in Turkish) of the Turkish Brigade.

Hi dfdenizyaran,

thank you for sharing. Could you explain why there are stars near crescent? Could you explain their meaning?

Best regards,

Aurora

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They are represening the stars of the insignia of the Turkish Brigade which is North Star. I will share a new picture of the North Star below.

Demir

Thanks

Regards

Demir

Alex,

Very well kept document, very nice.

Is it possible to tell us what is written on the seal. As far as I see it is "oberkommando von hag---- Turkische ---"

regards

Demir

Dear Auseklis,

Still waiting for the address and phone no

Regards

Demir

Why don't you give us the company's address, tel and email of which nobody could find until this day.

Thanks

" to the satisfaction of the German manufacturing firms who acquired the contract."

This is what made me think of the BB&Co. which has been found easily in the market.

Is it possible the famous (No country and no address) BB&Co. had been one of "the German manufacturing firms who acquired the contract"?

A very interesting information about the Turkish War Medal in the The Illustrated War News September 29, 1915.:

THE NEW TURKISH DECORATION OF THE “IRON CRESCENT”

By the way of the compliment to their German allies, the Turkish military authorities have introduced a new decoration, modelled in general idea on the German Iron Cross, to which the name “Iron Crescent” has been given. It is being distibuted also as lavishly as the Iron Cross has been- to the satisfaction of the German manufacturing firms who acquired the contract.

Please share your opinions with us about this information.

Regards

Demir

first question: as I wrote earlier, there were restrikes of the order. I don't know the periods or years

second question: I do not sell badges and I do not know your name

Regards

Demir

These are unofficial souvenir medals after the proclamation of the second Constitution 24.7.1908.

Regards

Demir

Hi,

Avsar has better knowledge on these Orders then me, I am sure he will reply soon. I just wanted to add:

1. There are fakes also made in Turkey. But mainly are made in Armenia in thesedays.

2. Mecidis have been awarded since the Crimean War until the Republic. Earlier Crimean types has convex reverse instead of concave like the ones shown. Depending on the year and need there has been restrikes. Some had been very nicely made by the French jewellers. They usually have their trade marks on the reverse.

3. So there are fakes and originals.

4. That zic zac sign was made while getting a sample of the silver to check its purity. Then there is the small "shah" sign which shows that the medal is silver. You can see this at 10 o'clock on the real one and at 12 o'clock on the fake. The stamp on the middle is the seal of the Turkish Mint " Darphane-i Amire"

Regards

Demir

Josemann, It may be a good idea to give the name of the dealer, city&country to make sure that none of our members also mistakenly buy any medals from him.

Yes, these are not Chaplin doubles by any account ...

Dagestan?

Another photo

Dr. Joseph Mengele (Angel of Deathi), Rudolf Höss (Auschwitz), Joseph Kramer (Belsen). Very dangerous trio

Indeed!

http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/topic/42728-meet-oberstleutnant-richard-falke/

Another interesting thread http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=172970

Thanks for reminding me Demir!

Thanks for these very nice photos, this time, the photo with Georgians is very interesting.

Officer on the front is German and officer in the second row is Austrian if I am not mistaken.

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He really was somebody, looks like "Charlie" Chaplin in his silent films

Georgian general with 4th class St.George

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and of course Harp Madalyası

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really interesting photo. The Turkish officer is on the far right

Two german pilots

Oberleutnant Richard Falke (left)

Hypothetical? Tank warfare maybe?

What tank,they hardly saw a car or two...

What a cold thing to say!!!

Vodka shots?

No he preferred raki (like pernod)

"This guy may just be one of the RSFSR military advisors, sent to Kemal Pasha in early 1921, when the Harp Medalyasi was still issued."

Sorry no.

Kemal Pasha met with General Frunze and Diplomats but he had no Russian or any other national military advisors. On the other hand, what might be a Soviet NCO advise Kemal Pasha?

Turkey received good amount of money and arms from the then Soviets. You may say that, why not one of the NCOs received the TWM for his bravery while transporting armaments or a loot from one of the battles in the Turkish eastern border, you might be correct should the age was right,

Anyway, JapanX's sixth sense says:

Most likely he borrowed these three RS too

Self-made hero

I also would like to add that the "North Star" badge is a perfect and true example

NORTH STAR (Kutup Yildizi or Simal Yildizi in Turkish) of the Turkish Brigade and Turkish Brigade Badge for the Turkish troops.

IMO te Turkish Badge is for the 5th and followind Brigades. Earlier ones do not have "Turkey" writen on the flag.