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    1. He has Breast Star of the 2nd Degree Osmani and Mecidi Orders with Swords. He also wears the Turkish War Medal. We can also see the 2nd Degree Mecidi Order with Swords and also 2nd Degree Order of Osmani with Swords (blurred- toward his left shoulder) on his neck.

      Regards

      Demir

    2. Hi,

      1 Is this the Order of the Medjidie, and which Class?   YES it is 1st Class order of Mecidi - Breast star is no 11

      When you have both 1st Class Osmani and Mecidi, 1 st Class Osmani sash is worn and an order hangs at the end of the sash under the arm. An order of the 1st class Mecidi is worn on the neck.

      2 Königlich Preußischer Roter Adler-Orden 2. Klasse mit Eichenlaub (can you guys see the Oak Leaves above the cross?)

      Venezuelanischer Orden der Büste Bolivars

      4 Is this the Imtiyaz Medal? Number 5 also looks like the Imtiyaz Medal. So is it possible that this one is the version in Gold, and number 5 the version in Silver?   YES I think so 4 Gold – 5 Silver

      Is it also the Imtiyaz Medal (in Silver) or something else? Perhaps the Kaiserlich Türkische Verdienstmedaille vom Roten Halbmond (Medal of Merit of the Red Crescent, i.e. the Turkish "Red Cross"), which was a similar sized medal and had a similar ribbon colour/pattern that could look the same on a black and white photo?   IT IS SILVER IMTIYAZ (It can't be Medal of Glory&Pride and Industry because of the size, it is smaller then Imtiyaz). Suspension is also typical for IMTIYAZ.

      Is this the Liakat Medal? And which class could it be, looking at Hofe's rank and Ottoman service, Silver or Gold?    It is Liyakat, they usually were awarded with IMTIYAZ. Suspension is also typical for Liyakat. It must be Silver Liyakat otherwise it should have been placed between the two Imtiyaz Medals, after Gold Imtiyaz. (If there were lines on the ribbon (4 red 3 green) then it would have been the Greek War Medal 1896, since he was at the Ottoman Court that time. But the Greek War suspension is totally different). 

      Is it the Königlich Preußisches Dienstauszeichnungskreuz or something else? The "thing" above the cross throws me off, it looks like a crown.

      Pretty sure this is the Königlich Preußische Kriegsdenkmünze für die Feldzüge 1870–71 für Kämpfer (Medal for the Franco-Prussian War of 1870/71)

      This looks like the Königlich Preußische Kaiser Wilhelm-Centenarmedaille 1897. It's odd because he was in Ottoman service when this medal was being awarded (1897), but I guess he was eligible for it nevertheless?

      10 Is this the Order of Osmaniye, and which Class?  1st Class Osmani

      11 Is this the Breast Star of the Order of the Medjidie he is wearing around the neck (number 1)? And which Class?  1st class Mecidi and on the neck the order.

      He is also wearing a sash. Can anyone determine to which order does the sash belong?  It looks like the Sash of the 1st Class Order of Osmani, because there are no other orders with breast star, only 1st Class Mecidi but Osmani outranks it.  There must be an order hanging at the end of the Sash under his left arm. Sash Green and red at the sides.

      Best wishes

      DEMIR

    3. Mustafa İsmet İnönü (Turkish pronunciation: [isˈmet ˈinœny]; 24 September 1884 – 25 December 1973) was a Turkish general[1] and statesman, who served as the second President of Turkey from 10 November 1938 to 27 May 1950, when his Republican People's Party was defeated in Turkey's second free elections. He also served as the first Chief of the General Staff from 1922 to 1924, and as the first Prime Minister after the declaration of the Republic, serving three terms: from 1923 to 1924, 1925 to 1937, and 1961 to 1965. As President, he was granted the official title of "Millî Şef" (National Chief).[2]

      When the 1934 Surname Law was adopted, Mustafa Kemal gave him a surname taken from İnönü, where he commanded the forces of Army of Grand National Assembly as the Minister of the Chief of the General Staff (Turkish: Erkân-ı Harbiye-i Umumiye Reis Vekili) during the Greco-Turkish War of 1919–1922. Afterwards these battles became to be known as the First Battle of İnönü and Second Battle of İnönü.

      Ismet Inönü (1).jpg

      Ismet Inönü (2).jpg

    4. On 15/07/2013 at 12:54, JapanX said:

      Unknown cavalier

      post-6141-0-90690500-1373882063.jpg

      Commander of Auschwitz comcentration camp Rudolf Franz Ferdinand Höss (also Höß, Hoeß or Hoess; 25 November 1901 – 16 April 1947) was a German Schutzstaffel (SS) functionary during the Nazi era who was later convicted as a war criminal. He was the longest-serving commandant of Auschwitz concentration and extermination cam

    5. On 11/08/2019 at 21:26, saschaw said:

      Somewhat late, admittedly, but I agree with ixhs' and paul wood's concerns: This seems to be one more of the countless fakes that are floating the collector market for more than ten years now. The overall quality isn't suitable for a German or Austrian private purchase type in enamel and possibly real silver, as isn't the enamel itself. Also, the patina is artifically applied - it's well done, as you pointed out, but still it's not naturally grown.

      I agree with you.

      Regards

      Demir

    6. On 31/10/2008 at 00:32, saschaw said:

      Great thread, thank you Gentlemen!

       

       

      Are you sure that one was given to him by Reshad? Not only the German maker, but the writing is a German dedication, too! "Sr. Exc." iSeiner Excellenzs "", which means "To His Excellence". I'd assume it was rather given to him by a German. Impossible? By the way, are we talking about that legendary supersized OWM?

      I think it is given by the company J.H.Werner - Berlin

      Regards

      Demir

      
       

      Here are Mustafa Kemal Pasha's awards (Similar ones)

      1. R. Kılıçlı Mecidi Nişanı.jpg

      2 KUK-WW1-AUSTRIA-MILITARY-MERIT-CROSS-2nd-CLASS.jpg.jpg

      2. R. Mecidi Nişanı.jpg

      2.derce osmani nişan.jpg

      3 KUK-WW1-AUSTRIA-MILITARY-MERIT-CROSS-3rd-CLASS.jpg

      3. Osmani.jpg

      4. Osmani.jpg

      5. Mecidi.jpg

      Alüyülala Afghan.jpg

      Ata.jpg

      ataturk istiklal.jpg

      Büyük İmtiyaz Madalyası -  Altın.jpg

      Commander Grand Cross Order of Saint Alexander.jpg

      EKI.jpg

      EKII.jpg

      Harp Madalyası  - Werner yapımı.jpg

      İmtiyaz Madalyası Gümüş.jpg

      İstiklal (Independence)Madalyası.jpg

      Kemal_Paşa_(c._1918).jpg

      Légion d'Honneur .jpg

      Liyakat Madalyası -Altın.jpg

      Liyakat Madalyası -Gümüş.jpg

      Order_of_Merit_of_the_Prussian_Crown_grand_cross_with_swords_(Prussia_1906-1917)_-_Tallinn_Museum_of_Orders1.jpg

    7. Carl Croneiß (born January 9, 1891 in Bad Durkheim , † July 31, 1973 in Nuremberg ) was a German military and Nazi politician.

      "In the autumn of 1915 Croneiß was assigned to the German military mission in Constantinople . The following years of the war he spent as an aviator of the Ottoman flying force , first as imperial Ottoman captain of the Turkish Aviation Department Chernahevicz, later at the Feldfliegerabteilung 1 Dardanelles. In 1916 he became field flier department 2 Irac, Baghdadand Persia. In 1918 he became commander of the Turkish flying school San Stefano near Constantinople.

      In 1919 his command in Turkey was lifted. He returned to Germany, where he was dismissed in 1920 in the rank of captain from the army. In the war Croneiß was awarded the Iron Cross of both classes, the Oldenburg Friedrich August Cross of both classes, the Knight's Cross of the Order of Albrecht with swords, the Hessian Medal of Honor , the Austrian Military Cross of Merit III. Class with swords, the Ottoman Imtiaz and Liakat Medals , the Mecidiye Order , the Iron Crescent , the Wound Badge awarded in black and the pilot's badge." 

      https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Croneiß

    8. Maarif Nişanı (Order of Education) 1328 (1910)

      Given to the people who contributed to science,  works of art and education.

      Middle: Tuğra- Reşad.
      Under Tugra: Ulum ve Finun ve Sanayi Nefise.

      Reverse: Darphane-i Amire (Ottoman Mint)

      Ribbon: white, red, white stripes

      1st class 40x60 mm

      2nd class  30x38mm

      3rd class 25x32 mm

      Maarif Nişanı 1. 4.jpg

      Maarif Nişanı 2..jpg

      Maarif Nişanı 3..jpg

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