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Bulgarian Prince Cyrill and his delegation. At the left the Ottoman Chief of Protocol Fuad Saffet Bey.

Torajiro Yamada, a Japanese businessman and sadau teacher who contributed to bilateral trade. He lived in Istanbul between the years 1892-1922.

Turkish pilots and navy pilots. First African origin pilot Cpt.Ahmet (10)

Hello,

Tugra of Mehmed V Reşad.

Regards.

Demir

You are the expert,  mine was just a guess

May be they belong to the Asian Turkish Troops under the Nazi Germany

Hi,

A new book by AVŞAR IBAR: OTTOMAN EMPIRE’S ORDER OF THE MEDJIDIE AND ORDER OF THE OSMANIE             

Demir

2 hours ago, AlbertR said:

Hello Demir,

In one of the pinned topics you recommend 3 other books on Turkish orders and medals. If I had all 4 books, do you think it's enough or do you recommend any other books?

Cheers,

Albert

Hello Albert, 

The first two books cover all the orders and medals and the last one mentioned in that thread about TWM is giving all the info needed about the Turkish War Medal and Avşar's book is explaining whatever you need to know about two orders, Medjidie abd Osmanie. So to answer your question; yes I think it will be enough.

Best wishes

Demir

On 24/05/2018 at 10:34, Sampo said:

Hello Demir,

We talked to each other a few years ago in the Netherlands at a SRO meeting. I am researching Korean medals. This group, is it located in the museum in Ankara? Is it possible to ask them if they could give the number from the back of the Korean Ulchi medal, and is this star on the ribbon gold or silver? I asked the same questions with success in Istanbul military museum. Maybe they have more Korean war military merit medals in other medal groups?

Kind regards

Sampo

Hi,

Here is a photo. It is 175. The star is yellow.

Best wishes

Demir

An Ukranian awarded TWM:

Osip Ivanovich Buchshivan (born June 1, 1890, Verkhovyna, Ivano-Frankivsk region - † December 8, 1937, Leningrad, USSR) - a Ukrainian soldier. A hundred Ukrainian Sich Riflemen, later Commander of the Legion of the USS. Otaman UGA

Birth of June 1, 1890

Zhabye, Kosiv district, the Kingdom of Galicia and Volodymyr, Austria-Hungary, Austria-Hungary

Death December 8, 1937 (47 years)

Leningrad, Russian RFSR, USSR USSR

USS membership kokarda.svg USS ZUNR coa.svg UHA

Party Communist Party of the Soviet Union

Title - OF-2 USR Hauptmann.svg Sotnik (hauptman),

Ataman UGA

Wars / Battles First World War

Awards

Medal of Courage (Austro-Hungary)

Memorial Cross of 1912-1913 years

Iron Cross 1 st class

Gallipoli Star

Life

Born June 1, 1890 in the village of Zhabie, Kosiv district of Galicia, at the time of the Austro-Hungarian Empire. Graduate of Kolomyia Gymnasium, student of Lviv Polytechnic.

In the Legion, the USS was from August 1914: he was commander of hundreds of USS legions, in 1918 he headed this legion, and from December 1918 - the commander of the East group, the 1st brigade UCS UGA.

On May 29, 1915, in Lisovychi, in the Stryj region, he was wounded and he fell into Russian captivity. From Siberia, where he served exile, fled through Persia, fought in Mesopotamia on the side of the states of the central bloc. For bravery, he was awarded the German Iron Cross and the Turkish Crescent.

At the end of 1916 he returned to the infantry formation, where he again headed a hundred, in the autumn of 1918 he was elected as the commanding officer of the Legion of the USS.

He took an active part in the Ukrainian-Polish war of 1918-1919, commanded (from the beginning of creation) the first USS brigade in the UHA, he was one of the developers of the plan of the Chortkiv oczenziw of 1919.

After the transition of the Red Ukrainian Galician Army (CHUGA) in April 1920 on the side of the UPR Army remained in the service of the Red Army. In 1933, together with other Galicians who collaborated with the Bolsheviks, he was arrested and sentenced to 10 years in the VTT and exiled to the Solovetsky islands.

Shot in Leningrad on December 8, 1937.

From the shooting list of the second Solovetsky stage:

Listed Osip Ivanovich, 1890, born in Galicia, Ukrainian, b. a member of the Communist Party of Western Ukraine, an employee. Judicial Troika under the Collegium of the GPU of the USSR on September 23, 1933 was sentenced under Art. 54-10-11 of the Criminal Code of the USSR for 10 years of ITL. Served a sentence in Solovetsky prison. Special troika of the UNKVD LO dated November 25, 1937, sentenced under Art. 58-10-11 of the Criminal Code of the USSR of the Criminal Code of the RSFSR to the highest degree of punishment. Shot dead in Leningrad on December 8, 1937

Rehabilitated in 1959.

https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/Букшований_Осип_Іванович

10 hours ago, avsaribar said:

Dear Mr.Erman , 

Thank you very , very much for your kind words and thoughts regarding the book , " Ottoman Empire's Order of the Medjidie and Order of the Osmanie " 

Honestly , it is my pleasure to know that you like my book . 

Kind Regards , 

Avsar IBAR

2 minutes ago, Paul R said:

Is the order award for this group typically awarded for valor?  How would he come to be awarded the Afghani award?

Hi,

Nice to hear from you. It was a great meeting.

These are Col. Nuri Pamir's medals from the Military Museum in Istanbul.  I will try to find out about the Ulchi Medal.

Best wishes.

Demir

A new book by AVŞAR IBAR: OTTOMAN EMPIRE’S ORDER OF THE MEDJIDIE AND ORDER OF THE OSMANIE

There is a new writer in the Group. Our member AVŞAR IBAR (A well known expert on these two Orders) has written, in Turkish and English, a book on the Medjidie and Osmanie Orders, and very recently published and on sale. It is a 208 pages, hard cover book with glossy paper, 17 x 24.5 cm and only 300 pieces (numbered).

I received the book today and immediately read and loved it. Although there were several books published before about the Ottoman Turkish Medals and Orders, this is a book that covers only Medjidie and Osmanie Orders. Perfect explanations and history of both Orders. He gave pictured examples of 5 classes of Medjidie and 4 classes of Osmanie breast stars and orders. There are also pictures of the boxes and a section for the fakes. Also most importantly there are the samples of foreign made Orders by French, German and Austrian makers, even an Italian maker.

The book itself is a collector item, since it is only 300 pieces.

I strongly recommend the book to our fellow collectors.

Thank you very much Avşar for writing such a book, a big contribution to our community and explaining all the facts about the two Orders.

Demir Erman

                                                                             Avşar Ibar: info@avsaribar.com    

http://www.avsaribar.com/content/default.asp

I found it in:  

 

demir,

A great thread on an important person.  I read it with increasing interest and have passed it on to a collegue who collects  awards to nurses.

Regards,

Gordon

 

Hello,

I can only confirm the Turkish awards  which I mentioned, since I don't know red cross awards but in one of the essays about her I found out that she received the Florence Nightingale Medal.

More info: The first Turkish Nurse  by TAHA TOROS : http://earsiv.sehir.edu.tr:8080/xmlui/bitstream/handle/11498/43714/001641145010.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y

Safiye Hüseyin Elbi (1881 - 1964) 

Her father Ahmet Pasha  was the Navy Atache in London and her mother was Josephine Wilward daughter of Hammond Wilward.

Her grandfather was the captain of the ship who took Florence Nightingale to Crimea during the War. She married Navy Lt. Colonel Hüseyin Elbi. Died in Istanbul in 1964.

She was  voluntery nurse during the Balkan wars and Gallipoli. She was awarded with the Order of Şefkat (The Order of Charity)(on her neck), War Medal (Right) and Red Crescent Medal and German Red Cross Medals (left breast).

http://midwifery.health.ankara.edu.tr/wp-content/

https://twitter.com/OttomanArchive/status/975418073393057792/sites/166/2015/08/SAFİYE-HÜSEYİN-ELBİ.pdf

Demir

Hi,

I recently bought this beautifully made red enamel TWM pin made by  A.H. Schemtob Constantinople. The pin is either for a lapel or a hat with a loop buttonhole for stiching. The design in the enamel looks like J.H.Werner style, star in the middle under the tougra and rays at the arms, it is is more visible on the pin without enamel.

Regards

Demir

PS: There was another one (which I did not buy) without enamel. (see picture)

The medal on the top left is the Turkish War Medal which was established in 1915 for the Turkish and allied troops who showed gallantry and merit in the War.

Regards

Demir

Turkish WWI Red Crescent commemorative badge. (There are a big amount of recently made ones.)

Sergeant Ali (Güner) 1920-1924

Submarine commander  Max Valentiner who transferred Turks to Libya during Turkish-Italian War 1911-1912

Hello Abtomat,

1. You said what is the title: "It's "specimen type L" in my book about all the original and fake types of the "Iron Crescent"  what is the title? 

2. You said: "  only the 2 Ottoman original types and all German/Austrian pieces manufactured from 1915 to 1919 are the real original ones."  What are the two original types, can you post their photos?

Thanks

Demir

Thanks Alex,

For the correction and I will try to change the background.

Best wishes

Demir