demir

Yes there are records in the Ottoman Archives in Istanbul but there are several books and one has to go through the books. The problem is they were written in Arabic alphabet and one need to know that. Also, the date on this Medal is the Occupation of Istanbul by the Allied forces 13.11.1918. The name Grazia (thanks in Italian) and the date is interestind. There is another point, that space is allocated for the names not a name and a date. Especially after the occupation the Allied army people had access to everything and there was a puppet Government.

Regards

Demir

Hi Chris,

yes they are Crimean period Orders. The one on the left is the 5th class. The other one is most probably 4th Class. 

Regards

Demir

Hello Samuel,

It could have been given to anybody, anytime whom Sultan saw eligible.

Demir

A recently made The Turkish War Medal with Makers Mark

On 12/8/2016 at 23:26, dedehansen said:

Hi Demir,

is it possible to get a photo from his shoulder straps?!

Regards

Andreas

Beautiful medal bars. Thanks for sharing.

Regards

Demir

Hi,

As indicated by Gordon when you first joined GMIC some time ago there is a regulation for selling items. 

One can not sell items using the FORUMs, you have to sell them on the sales section of the Forum. 

Best wishes

Demir

Hi Andreas,

you are right he is an observer

thanks

Demir

Hello,

A friend of mine has this painting and we are wondering about the identity of the pilot.

Somebody suggested that he might be Oberleutnant Paul Leim.

I would like to have your opinion please.

Thanks

Demir

There are translation companies which translates these kind of documents.

https://www.google.com.tr/search?sourceid=chrome-psyapi2&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8&q=osmanlıca tercüme büroları&oq=osmanlıca tercüme&aqs=chrome.4.69i57j69i65j0l4.7788j0j7

Sorry I can not read old Turkish alphabet.

On the other hand all note book photos have to be rotated 180 degrees.

Demir

Hi,

It is a horse tag.

2nd Regiment, 3 rd Battalion, 10 th Company, 456

(2.Alay 3.Tabur. 10.bölük, 456)

Regards

Demir

Hello,

Welcome to the GMIC And Forum Turkey.

Demir

Hisart Museum

http://www.hisartmuseum.com/en/contact.asp

 Hisart Canlı Tarih ve Diorama Müzesi
Hürriyet Mah. Cemil Bengü Cad. No: 21 34403 Çağlayan / İstanbul / Türkiye  
T.+90 212 296 98 04 
F.+90 212 224 20 36
M.info@hisartmuseum.com

Forgot to mention, the silver imtiyaz is a German made one, not original and the gold one not original also IMHO.

Hi Gordon,

Yes one can wear both silver and gold Imtiyaz and silver and gold Liyakat at the same time. First you get the silver then gold. In this bar 1,5,6,7 could be awarded at the same period together, what about 2,3, and 4 .      

Best wishes

Demir

Hi,

Here are some books on the Ottoman Turkish Orders and Medals:

1. Osmanlı Madalyalar ve Nisanlar Belgelerle Tarihi  - Ottoman Medals and Orders Documented History by METİN ERÜRETEN 

2. Pride and Privilege a History of Ottoman Orders, Medals and Decorations by EDHEM ELDEM

3. The Turkish War Medal - Harp Madalyası by M. DEMİR ERMAN  

and if you are in Facebook bocome a member of: 

1.    Ottoman Orders and Medals : https://www.facebook.com/groups/osmanlimadalyalari/?ref=bookmarks

2.    The Turkish War Medal : https://www.facebook.com/groups/harpmadalyasi/ 

3.   Korean Medals: https://www.facebook.com/groups/koremadalyasi/

4. Turkish Army Patches and Insignias : https://www.facebook.com/groups/TSKBROVELER/

Regards

Hi,

Here are some books on the Ottoman Turkish Orders and Medals:

1. Osmanlı Madalyalar ve Nisanlar Belgelerle Tarihi  - Ottoman Medals and Orders Documented History by METİN ERÜRETEN 

2. Pride and Privilege a History of Ottoman Orders, Medals and Decorations by EDHEM ELDEM

3. The Turkish War Medal - Harp Madalyası by M. DEMİR ERMAN https://demirerman.wixsite.com/turkish-war-medal

Regards

in Facebook:

1.    Ottoman Orders and Medals : https://www.facebook.com/groups/osmanlimadalyalari/?ref=bookmarks

2.    The Turkish War Medal : https://www.facebook.com/groups/harpmadalyasi/ 

3.   Korean Medals: https://www.facebook.com/groups/koremadalyasi/

4. Turkish Army Patches and Insignias : https://www.facebook.com/groups/TSKBROVELER/

This is a beautiful piece, as Paul says it is an original period item made in France.

1 hour ago, paul wood said:

AH 1332 November 30th 1913 to November 19 1914 (and 1332 is the date on the clasp)

AH 1337 October 7 1918 to September 30 1918 by which time Turkey was kaput

Paul

 

I totally agree with Claudius and  Paul the date is 1332 (Hijri) on the clasp which corresponds to : 1914.  

With the amendments made on the Imtiyaz Medal Regulation Article 9 and Liyakat Medal Regulation Article 6 on November 16, 1914, attaching crossed saber clasps were allowed on the ribbons of these Medals. Clasps showing the names of the campaigns on the ribbons were also permitted.

And it is (Suez) Canal (KANAL)

Regards

Demir

The medal looks OK but the pin might have been replaced, usually these types have broader pins. 

Regards

Demir

Thanks Claudio for the beautiful photos and information. I am also very happy for you for acquaring the medal bar.

Regards

demir

Pilot Leutnant Wendelmuth

Mustafa Kemal Pasha, Enver Pasha,Cemal Pasha

General Director of Inspectors of PTT Irfan Rıza bey (Later, Undersecretary of Ministry of Finance)

(Sergeant) Salih Çavuş - WWI and War of Independence

TWM and Mecidi Order

Hasan Cemil bey

KuK Staff Major Hermann Pokorny

Pilot Lt. Hellmuth Felmy

EKI, EKII, Turkish Gold Liyakat with Swords, Silver İmtiyaz with swords, Silver Liyakat with Swords, Turkish War Medal and Turk and Grman Pilot Badges

14 hours ago, pieter1012 said:

Hi Demir,

Sorry to put this here, but I see you are the host on Turkish orders. I have a question on the order of the Medjidie that I posted in the Turkish section, perhaps you can take a look. thanks, Pieter

Hello Pieter,

I am sorry to inform you that I don't know any supplier of this kind.

On the other hand, honestly, I don't think that we could find a firm which has the original velvet for these boxes. 

With my best wishes

Demir

PS: May be our friends who will be reading this can help