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    Ed_Haynes

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    1. I was, last night, looking through back issues of the [OMSA and came across a nice article in the November 1982 issue by Janez Svajncer, "The Yugoslavian Commemorative Medal for the Voyage to India and Burma".

      Has anyone succeeded to capturing one of these lovelies?

      (Does anyone have -- for obvious "crossover" reasons -- a spare one of these that I might "adopt"?)

      (There was also in this issue an interesting book review by some guy named "R. J. Lundstr?m". This issue was truly "back in the day".)

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      I saw this medal 3 years ago on an auction. The price was 100? at that time...which means, today you'll have to pay at least 150?! :D

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      1 from 1200 ;)

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      Here it is, at last in my collection :jumping:

      "Spomen medalja na put u Indiju i Burmu" 1954-55.

      Sorry for bad pictures:

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      From the same time and the same event. ;)

    2. PaulR,

      My area of expertise is Full Cavaliers of the Order of Glory. I need to check my references, however, concerning possible "double" Full Cavalier winners i.e., Saint George Cross for Bravery and the Order of Glory.

      There are documented instances of Soviet enlisted men who were awarded the Saint George Cross during World War I who were later awarded the Order of Glory during the Great Patriotic War. I am aware of one such case wherein an enlisted man was awarded two classes of the Saint George Cross for Bravery and later was awarded two classes of the Order of Glory - a double double if you will.

      Not all enlisted men of World War I who were Saint George Cross winners went on to become officers. The vast majority were demob'ed after that war only to be remob'ed during the Great Patriotic War. It's not as much of a dream as Ed suggests.

      Regards,

      slava1stclass

      Thanks, "slava". These are groups to dream of seeing (or even to get the names and have the research pulled, just to flesh out the tale).

      Unfortunately, most of what we see are the "career" tyypes, and you right to remind us of the more invisible "short-timers".

      I assume the wearing of the St. George Cross and Medal was an exception to a more general ban on wearing the orders? Although I still think you'd have to be pretty brave, or pretty stupid, to wear even these in the 1920s or 1930s?

    3. Amazing photos! Thank you all for the clarification. One thing that I have noticed is that I do not see any photos of men who were enlisted in BOTH WW1 and WW2. Would that not be the most amazing group! Someone who was a Cavalier of both awards?? Not completely out of the realm of possibility! He could be in his early 40s!

      Paul

      But I'd think if he'd been in WWI, he'd have become an officer by the GPW and, therefore, ineligible for the Glory. Though it is an interesting thought/dream.

    4. Interesting question, and interesting answer. I suspect these men and their medals weren't very popular in the years immediately following the revolution, even for those who joined the Red Army. (As far as those who were Whites, . . . well here's a little bullet for you.) Surely, by the end of the GPW, these old Tsarist medals became more public, crawled out of teh closet, as the old wounds had healed with the victory. Stalin had also led the institution of a range of medals named after old feudal Tsarist heroes (Suvorov, Ushakov, etc.) and even the reincarnation of the cross of St. George as the Order of Glory. I wish we knew more about this change in policy and attitudes over time toward the medals of the old r?gime.

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