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Lieutenant General Ivan Ivanov Kravchenko
http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=6207
Almost impossible to scan the whole thing at once, the badges have been left off and a couple of items "restored for display purposes" are included. See the dedicated thread for full details, please.
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Following Gerd's excellent example, I thought I'd put up here, in one place, some of the Soviet goodies that have come my (novice) way in recent years, some from forum comrades, others from the "usual suspects" of dealers, the good, bad, and ugly.
Most have been posted here in much more detail already, and I'll give cross-references as needed.
Most of these are documented and research is in hand or on the way from The Master.
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Nice, Gerd. Many thanks for this. This is nice eye candy.
Even though many of these have been posted elsewhere here, it is good to see them all in one place, as it gives an idea of the coherence of a collection.
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Ed, any chance of an update?????
All I can say is, your collection is just amazing!
Not sure if you do requests
but I was hoping you might delight us with a side by side picture of your D01, D02, and D03.
You are no doubt the only person here, or anywhere for that matter to have all three.
Thanks in advance
JC
Would love to give an update, JC. But as I am just about to head off to my summer travels (which will include some time in Ulanbaatar), I'm not sure I'll have the time.
And, YES, I do requests! Happily!
But most of my guests life off-site and it takes some time to fetch them.
Luckily, what you ask for is already up at
http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=5058&st=51
and I'll repeat the closeup here.
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Yes, it would be driver. And this could be anything from driving VIPs to driving supply trucks. Not sure on the significance ot the "P" prefix to the service number, though I have a partial list somewhere.
I assume the medals themselves are unnamed? A shame the British decided to issue these unnamed, unlike other commonwealth governments (e.g., India, South Africa, Australia). Despite what some have written, this was not an economy measure, but came out of a desire to issue the medals with little delay.
Interesting group that helps date when medals were awarded. Medals couldn't be sent to an Israel that didn't exist, so these are post-1948. This parallels patterns I have seen in researhing WWII medals in India, most of which seem to have been isued in the early 1950s but, then, India was striking them themselves.
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Wild Card,
No need to apologize whatsoever. We're all here to help. Thank you again for the great photos.
Regards,
slava1stclass
Agreed! It is an unfortunate vagueness that the official abbreviation for the next-to-lowest class of the order (OBE) is the same as the unofficial shorthand for the order as a whole (OBE). If it helps, this confusion goes all the way back to the first days of the order (which was a very new and even revolutionary creature in British phaleristics, a multi-classed continental-style order that was actually awarded for MERIT!).
Even as they discuss renaming the order today (what "empire" are they speaking about??), they struggle to keep the same postnominals ("Order of Britsh Excellence"?).
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The second group (with the Red Star) is fully documented, and is owned by a close friend of mine. A very nice group to a South African! He served as a transport pilot ferrying materials to Stalingrad.
Thanks, Dave,
Please let your friend know I have used his image and will happily remove it if he wishes. I am very sensitive to such issues, though I realise that in these days of Google spiders crawling all over anything that ever shows up any place on the web becomes fair game for unfair poaching.
Ed
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And one more image that I could locate, less exotic but more kosher:
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First of all, I'm sorry if this is a duplicate thread. I was sure there was an old one, but I couldn't find it. If the bosses wish to merge this with that one, please do so.
As a request from another thread, I'm putting a few images I have (imaged only) of WWII Soviet awards adapted (often with some inventiveness) for wear by their Commonwealth recipients. I am a little reluctant to do this, as these medals are not in my custody, the images are on my chaotic hard disk but with no sense of where they came from, in whose custody the medals reside. Apologies if I am stealing.
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As these are pictures (only) that I have (and I can't remember where they came from) of medals that aren't mine, I am reluctant to post them. I shall, however, put some up. But not here, in another thread, so as not to get us off track here.
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Is it just me, or does it appear in the photos that his CBE has the hanging loop twisted so the hole runs parallel to the arms of the cross, instead of perpendicular as it is in the one that you have? My eyes are just going buggy from trying to figure out how he connected it to his uniform in the first photo, that's all.
Dave
The CBE (repeat: CBE) is constructed like the one pictured (the KBE badge the same too), as a neck badge, with suspension loop at right angles to the plane of the cross. The CBE, KBE, and GBE badges are enameled. The OBE and MBE are breast badges (gilt and silver, respectively), with suspension ring in the same plane as the cross. There is also the medal of the order, in several forms. And all came in both military and civil (not relevant here?) divisions. Though, looking at that lovely photo, when the fellow remounted his CBE exotically and perversely onto a Soviet pentagonal suspension, he used the wrong (civil) ribbon rather than the proper military ribbon!
See: http://www.medals.org.uk/united-kingdom/un...-kingdom024.htm
However, the CBE (and DBE and GBE) badge for women was constructed for wear from a bow ribbon, and you need to wonder how many Soviets wore "female" badges.
The Soviets, in particular, did great violence to the wearing regulations of foreign awards to make them fit into their traditions. But, then, so did foreign recipients of Soviet awards, adapting (what a kind word) the Patriotic War and Red Star for wear on a suspension ribbon, for example.
British awards are as (really, less) complex than Soviet awards, but rather than reflecting a (nominally) classless society, their structure reflects a society that is "all about" class.
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Is this a question about Spanish Civil War awards or about Spanish awards? Is it in the right forum??
Not sure I know the answer, but more concerned that it may be in the wrong place?
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The only one I have, in a group.
Advance apologoies for ignorance: Can anyone provide some background to this award and those who received it? Just how odious were these boys? Bad as the Freicorps types?
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Ed's Soviet Swamp
in Russia: Soviet Orders, Medals & Decorations
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As a break, a few singles that are close to my heart.
Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic - Order of the Red Banner of Labor
Timofie Prokofievich Boskoboynikov
#233
http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=2577