Ed_Haynes

Just as a link to Yuri Yashnev's site on МЕДАЛЬ ?ЗОЛОТАЯ ЗВЕЗДА? ГЕРОЯ МНР:

http://www.netdialogue.com/yy/Asia/Mongoli...MPRGoldStar.htm

and МЕДАЛЬ ?ЗОЛОТОЕ СОЁМБО? ГЕРОЯ ТРУДА МНР:

http://www.netdialogue.com/yy/Asia/Mongoli...GoldSoyombo.htm

Just as a link to Yuri Yashnev's site on ОРДЕН ?ЗА БОЕВЫЕ ЗАСЛУГИ?:

http://www.netdialogue.com/yy/Asia/Mongoli...erviceOrder.htm

Just as a link to Yuri Yashnev's site on ОРДЕН ТРУДОВОГО КРАСНОГО ЗНАМЕНИ:

http://www.netdialogue.com/yy/Asia/Mongoli...orRedBanner.htm

Just as a link to Yuri Yashnev's site on ОРДЕН БОЕВОГО КРАСНОГО ЗНАМЕНИ:

http://www.netdialogue.com/yy/Asia/Mongoli...atRedBanner.htm

Just as a link to Yuri Yashnev's site on МЕДАЛЬ ?25 ЛЕТ МОНГОЛЬСКОЙ НАРОДНОЙ РЕВОЛЮЦИИ?:

http://www.netdialogue.com/yy/Asia/Mongoli...PR/MPR25MPR.htm

Just as a link to Yuri Yashnev's site on МЕДАЛЬ ?ХАЛХИН-ГОЛ?:

http://www.netdialogue.com/yy/Asia/Mongoli...RChalkinGol.htm

Just as a link to Yuri Yashnev's site on ОРДЕН СУХЭ-БАТОРА:

http://www.netdialogue.com/yy/Asia/Mongoli...RSucheBator.htm

Just as a link to Yuri Yashnev's site on ОРДЕН ?ПОЛЯРНАЯ ЗВЕЗДА?:

http://www.netdialogue.com/yy/Asia/Mongoli...PRPolarStar.htm

Anybody here with any reliable sources on award numbers linked to awardees?

How did the list with names for the Sukh bator for instance get compiled? Are there institutions in Mongolia that can be contacted to provide info?

At present, I think (fear) the answer is "no" to both questions. Some of us hope these may alter "soon". Ask me in the fall.

BUT . . . anything numbered MUST have a roll somewhere. Whether we can access it or not, someone will/may be able to do so, sometime, someday. After all, we are only the custodians of these sparkly things for a few decades . . . .

And everyone has the row-by-row ribbon-by-ribbon "reading" on Daniels's bar, right??

(If I makes you feel any better, I suspect most serving officiers in the Indian armed forces couldn't manage it [either], as there are some "exotic" items for them there [too]!)

Thank you, Mike!!

(Owe you a non-virtual one!)

And just drop-dead gorgeous. Amongst the nicest of the State Security Badges that I have seen thus far!

Yes, yes, that is a pretty one.

Interesting medal, thanks Tony. A shame She likes the Clown Crown look (or so 'tis said). She looks a bit less vulture-like here than on the miniature.

I would guess South American. Jeff, are you around??

All I clearly see is his KBE, so the Brits liked him.

If the fellows producing the fake documents, badges, medals, and uniforms had shown the same initiative, creativity and work ethic while the Soviet Union still existed, we might not have won the cold war after all!

And if there were truly that many people in KGB and affiliated organisations, we'd all be living in an international workers' paradise now.

Yours in struggle,

Ed

Thanks for this thread. Though very very far outside my area of focus, I always like learning new stuff. And I learned a lot here.

Someplace, there have to be registers of numbers and names and dates. No one numbers things without recording who got what.

Someday . . . ????

Very nice, very nice. Thank you for sharing.

And I might add a link to my Suuigiyn Gombo group (also incomplete):

http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=2746

As Rick (and I) had to undergo silly civil defense drills ("duck and cover"), why is it surprising that the "other side", who also feared attack from their version of "the evil ones", had similar establishments and silliness?

It is said that Irwin, Payne, and other "venerables" used to stand at the docks as returning Victorian RN ships came in. The men would be given their medals as ther started down the gangplank, the collectors would be waiting, cash in hand, at the bottom, and the sailors would have a fine old time on shore leave, now with more cash in hand.

Some things don't change?

Pretty one, Daviel. With nothing higher than the VM, gtting information won't be easy. This is made worse by the unfortunate lack of IAF lists in public access. Unlike the other services, the air boys treat their lists as high security items. Not even the USI has many.

However . . . I sense a problem with your attribution. According to the very useful database over at the Bharat Rakshak site

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Awards/d....php?srnum=7224

7224 F(P) Air Marshal Teshter Jall Master, IAF, (commissioned 9 March 1962) was not awarded a VM, but was awarded an AVSM 26 January 1991 and a PVSM 26 January 2001. This site is not perfect and VMs (especially if for being a good boy and not for gallantry) are devilish hard to trace in the Gazette of India. Yet, the webmaster over there has done a darned good job in getting VM (and other) citations together. See his

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Awards/index.html

The absence of Master's VM from the list is quite troubling. Otherwise, I'd be inclined not to challenge your attribution as a pre-AVSM (pre-1991) cast-off ribbon bar, perhaps when Master upgraded following his AVSM.

As it is, though, it remains an interesting, if unattributed, ribbon bar. Not to sound like an Imperial German collector, but can we see a scan of the backside, er, um, back side, the reverse?

I have never seen a close-up scan of one of these. Is this an original strike? Are they really this plastic-looking and over-gilded? Setting aside the unfortunate though hilarious design, is the quality really THIS bad??

can be something said about the rarity of these state prices?

about the choibalsan prize, how is the golden medaillon attached to the base and are those "prongs" made out of copper?

christian

Squinting at the Choibalsan Prize, the front part seems to be gold (really), but the two pins that attach it seem to be silver (tarnished) or perhaps copper/bronze. Hard to get a scan that shows colors accurately.

Yes, very nice, Kutsenko pp. 243-58, 1st variety, 1928-31 perhaps. Est. 184 awards TOTAL, both varieties, and most awards of 1st variety believed to have been exchanged after 9131. States that only 4 specimens of 1st variety known. Ultra-rare!

Any number anywhere???

(But I fear that all of the republican awards are being faked.)