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this is a great jacket. Is this exactly the same cloth as soviet walk-out generals?

the shoulderboards seem to be soviet ones with embroidery, it could be is an interesting point.

are there leaves around the visor cap cockade or are they reserved to the parade uniform?

gotcha!

source: V.A. Borisov "nagrudniye znaki sovietskoi vooruzhenikh sil 1918-1991"

table XVIII, nr119

Many here seem to be alluding to knowledge that is neither proven nor public. Until these arguments are made public, with sources (and "I know" won't be enough to inspire any confidence at all), I think we need to consider the question completely open, with much asserted, nothing proven.

this is entirely right and the best way to conduct a debate and improve phaleristics science. But many collectors switched from Santa to a marvelous world where fakes don't exist... Russian fakers pushed all of those whose money is a too serious thing to waste to believe in every area that an order is supicious until the contrary is proved.

All that said, I'm eager too to discover Anatoly's give-aways and the statistical sources quoted by Collectrussia.

my mistake! I saw t hem on the socialist labor hero...

Am I blind or the piece lacks the state markings for gold?

I saw them on the suspension only, as on czech medals...

right breast inside

inside lining

black velvet

shoulderboards

under collar

lappels

details!

very rare and gorgous M1949 tank officer parade jacket.

It is in perfetct condition although it had a real life and some wear traces. It is for a tank technician, hence the rare silver shoulderboards.

I'm thinking of a big veteran or something commemorative badge, instead of an order (it is not in the official order nomenclature whatsoever)...

by courtesy of the sammler.ru forum

maybe a stupid thought, but it looks like the back silver structure of the yougoslav communst hero of socialist labor... put the red stones, gold crown and a new center and that's done!

hello Christian, your hypothesis could be correct...

(PS: thanks to the moderator to have cleant and put my post at the right place )

any hints gentlemen?

gentlemen, I need yours opinions. I have the opportunity to save a 3 orders group (brotherhood 2nd, merit to the people 3, bravery) all documented, with box and ribon, for one woman. Would it be a good set? I'm puzzled the person got the fraternity and bravery on the same date...

many thanks, sebastien

hello Walter, are groups (several awards to one person) of common orders common?

A very cranky document that does NOT want to be scanned.

From 1976, but beyond that !!!

if there's a big document like this, what does the small paper typed diploma stands for?

(this picture is not mine nor the order; it is obly for example )

50/50 Ed, to be honest. One of my source is globaly wrong (he isnt known); another one is very well known and expressed a precise opinion about "crabs"...

I saw too a curious Red Banner screwback 2nd attribution, the KGB general uniform+visor cap, some admiral of the soviet union visor caps... There were gems, there were few crap, there were outpriced items (a romanian infantry officer cap presented as a securitate general visor) :banger:

An interesting assertion. What evidence do you have? Or is this just the sort of thing that "some experts and trade mens" (???) say?

50/50 Ed, to be honest. One of my source is globaly wrong (he isnt known); another one is very well known and expressed a precise opinion about "crabs"...

Dear Ed,

that's true in a certain sense, but the sought after items and groups went away at very, very high prices. The overall result of Enzo's auction might have been well above the estimates in terms of cash.

I guess, that two reasons might have caused the rather large number of unsold items:

Christian

gentlemen, have you considered the possibilty of too many fakes?

some experts and trade mens considered this as a fact...

thanks! I'de be happy to see one set for a SED congress delegate...