Daniel Krause

yes, but even for this 1917 list, there are NO colonial medals mentioned. Unless a cross-check in the Orders Almanach brings a success..

Anyway, I do not think that there are that many of salesman examples. This small "navy style" trapezoids have more been a fashion than official. Big Trapezoids and the new M1915 were the official ones.

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Daniel

mini chain was requested...

here it is.

It is indeed highly unusual, that he received the RAO4 short before the outbreak of the war in 1914, he shows it at the big bar and the mini chain but it does NOT appear at the ribbon bar....

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Daniel

Nooo. not Esmarch.

GenArzt Prof.Dr.Bergmann!!!!

here his entry from 1902, perfectly fitting

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Daniel

great pic!!!!!!!!

here my small contribution. General Sacher Wydrigan wearing 3 George Crosses and all 4 George medals!

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Daniel

Hi Igor,

born 1887, died 1972.

At the outbreak of the war "Starshi Leitenant" aboard SMS Dresden, as Kapit?nleutnant he commanded U 63, went in retirement as characterized Korvettenkapit?n.

Awards as I know are the plm, Hohenzollern House Order knight with swords, U-boat-badge and the Freikorps Loewenfeld cross.

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Daniel

short lesson in Ranklist speech:

SF (normally in Imperial GSF) Gro?herzoglich S?chsischer Falkenorden.

The G for Gro?herzoglich came out of use in the Reichsheer Ranklists from 1918 up.

1= Grand cross

2a= Commander with star

2b= Commander

3a= knight 1st cl.

3b= knight 2nd cl.

X= swords

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Daniel

No chance for Anhalt rolls.

The rolls for WW1 were destroyed in WW2.

Thats why for all Anhalt awards You can just estimate some numbers.

According to Dr.Scharffenberg the Friedrich Cross on the non-com ribbon was awarded around 600 times. So a rarity range of a plm!!!!!

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I would say NO.

Feldwebelleutnants were Officers, and so not eligible for the MVK.

If there are Feldwebelleutnants listed wiht a MVK I?m sure they received it for an action still done as NCO.

There are even 4 (if I remember exactly) FwLt who received the Hohenzollern knights cross with swords.

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Daniel

My source?

most of them are in the already published rolls (BMV, SA, BZ)

HEK and WF are in the soon published rolls done by Rick, Uwe and me.

Otherwise I collect info about German Generals since a lot of years.

Beste Gr??e aus Potsdam

Daniel

niiice pics, Christophe!!!!!

BTW, I wonder if THIS v.Selle is related to him.

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Daniel

Hi,

niiice bar!!!!

I cannot 100% confirm that is IS Schoelers bar, but I have a good feeling.

Problem is, there are no other ways to confirm it tham by a portrait with THIS bar in wear.

All his known WW1 awards were around the neck:

RAO 2nd class with Oakleaves, star and swords

Princely Hohenzollern, Honorary Commanders Cross with swords

Bavarian Military Merit Order 2nd class with swords

Saxon Albert commander with star and swords

W?rttemberg Frederick Commader with star and swords

Baden Z?hringer L?we commander with star and swords

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Daniel

Hi Claudio,

great new find!!!!

BTW, the Italian Crown Order ribbon with the golden crown device on the bar indicates a Commander grade, awarded to Officers in LtCol- level.

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Daniel

Yes, no problem, but not before it is sold.

ID?s are just driving the price - good for the seller, bad for the buyer - bad for me, I get nothing.

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Daniel

niiice pic!!!

I have none in wear but accidently a Commanders Jacket laying around...

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Daniel

well done!!!!! Congratulations!!

The Messina Medal on a Saxon Honor cross ribbon I have?nt seen until now..... Probably same as on the ribbon bar - they took something what looks at least a bit close to the correct ribbon.

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Daniel

Yes it is. The BL1 is the Belgian Order of Leopold Grand cross.

BTW, Eulenburg was the MOST DECORATED German Officer ever. As a "court puke" of Willy 2 he received even more awards than for example Bismarck or Moltke....

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Daniel

No, Your Ribbon is that from the Karl Troop Cross.

Correct ribbon is

Hi friends,

some words from me according the rolls.

Paul is asking how it will look like. The ?Roth style? was date, name, firs name (if available in the original roll), Rank, unit (if available in the original roll).

The new ?Rick and Daniel style? will be Name, first name, rank, unit, date, remarks like later promotion to General rank or remarks to other awards, birth and death year.

A word about the time. Roughly I need some seconds to transcribe an award entry and additional 10 minutes for the added thing which are NOT in the roll. W?rttemberg will have around 23.000 name entries, so count around 3.800 hours!

W?rttemberg:

I did the MVO and Crown Order with swords, Frederick with swords, golden military merit medal, Merit cross with swords, Wilhelmscross with swords.

Big help came from Uwe Bretzendorfer and Werner Nickel.

Whats new, I noted everything according the insane W?rttemberg return policy.

And I did non-W?rttemberg awards given to Members of the W?rttemberg Army in WW1.

Ernestinian duchies:

As Rick already noted, we combine all 3 in one volume.

Altenburg ? done by the late Erhard Roth, is re-done and improved by me,

Coburg and Gotha is done ? more or less

Meiningen is done ? more or less.

In the next weeks I plan to go to all Ernestinian archives to see if anything else survived.

Weimar:

I?m expecting 2 last copies from the archives and we will be ready.

I will not speculate now for future plans like a re-done Royal Hohenzollern roll or a re-done Saxon roll before we finish the actual projects. Reu? and Schwarzburg rolls are there in the archives. I will go there next weeks to see??

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Daniel

Hi Chris,

I would guess Adolf Frhr.v.B?low, born 1870, died 1944, 1914 Major in IR 31, retired as LtCol from IR 159.

Other awards: Red Eagle 4, Saxon Albert knight 2nd class, Weimar falcon knight 1st class where he got the swords to the cross as only other WW1 award I know at the moment.

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Daniel

great info!!!!! many thanks!!!

So, if anybody else will assist, let me know. Otherwise I plan anyway a tour to Thuringia next months for another "inspection" at Meiningen, and Gotha.

I know already that also th Schwarzburg rolls are still around.

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Daniel

Hi David,

A closeup of the medal bar and the 2nd pic You mentioned would be helpful.

I can say he got HOH3X, SA3aX and BZ3aX from the existing rolls.

KO4, Joh, Cent, REKj3, SLH4 he had peacetime.

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Daniel

Here Bismarck full list of awards in "Ranklist speech":

SAOBr, plmE, plm KuW, WO, RAOGKEKrSzX, RAOGKEBr, HOH1aBr, HOH3X, EK1 70, RM, Joh, LD1, 66K, 64, AB1, BTBrmK, BHBr, BrHGK, HG1, HL1, HP1X, HgL, MK1b, OV1XKr, SRKBr, GSF1Br, EH1mK, WK1Br, BL1X, DD1, FE1, GE1, JC, JAn, LEK1, SM1, NL1, USt1Br, ?EK1, PCBr, PAPBr, PL1, PT1, RumSt1, RAdBr, SSer, SWA1, SE1, SGV, TNIBr, TO1Br, TunHO, ZSt1

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Daniel

Forgot to mention,

Ludwig died 1946, Eugen died 1921.

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Daniel

Thanks Glenn, thats it!!!

see You soon,

Daniel