hucks216

SS-Gruppenführer Paul Hausser

Born: 7th Oct 1880

Died: 21 Dec 1972

Highest Rank: SS-Oberstgruppenfuhrer und Generaloberst der Waffen-SS

Kommandeur of SS-Verfügungstruppen Division (mot) / SS-Division "Reich"

Kommandierender General of II.SS-Panzer-Korps

Oberbefehlshaber of 7.Armee

Oberbefehlshaber of Heeresgruppe "B"

Oberbefehlshaber of Heeresgruppe "Oberrhein"

Oberbefehlshaber of Heeresgruppe "G"

Ritterkreuz - 8th August 1941 / Eichenlaub - 28th July 1943 / RK Schwertern - 26th August 1944

Image: EK II Citation

Welcome to a new project for GMIC. Being a paperwork collector one of the reasons I collect the citations is for the signatures on them and as such have to trawl through books, websites, personally compiled files & trade emails to find examples to provide a comparison.With that in mind the aim of this new project is to provide a great resource for those who either collect paperwork from the Imperial German &/or Third Reich period or have an interest in just collecting signatures

The signatures could be members of all the various military, paramilitary & civil organisations from the Imperial German & Third Reich period, well known personalities or Kompanie Commanders - basically an all encompassing database. We have all types of collectors here: Imperial Germany, TN, Polizei, Feldgendarmerie, OT, HV etc so the potential for building up a great database covering all such signatures is there. Signatures could be from award citations, soldbucher, wehrpasse, ausweis, war time letters, photos, dedicated books etc.

Basically if you have a signature on some paperwork and know who it belongs to then please feel free to post it with some amplifying information on the signer, however basic, to build up a comprehensive database that has the potential to be a great resource. If you have a signature from a different timeframe of someone that has already been added to the database feel free to add it to that particular thread.

Stipulations For Posting Images

1. The person posting the signature must be the owner of the item.

2. Items published are NOT up for discussion in the thread - the idea is to build up a database rather than a discussion. If members have doubts about any that are posted then a PM to the Moderator with their views can be passed and regulated that way.

3. Photos are to be attached to the post – i.e. not via an image hosting site so there are no ‘dead posts’ in the future.

4. Post War signed items of Imperial & Third Reich individuals must be clearly marked as being Post-War.

Viewing the section in alphabetical order: Just select the SORT BY option on the upper right and then select TITLE.

Thank you and I hope that our contributions can put this project on the map.

KEViN / Hucks (hucks216)

Hello Bob and welcome to GMIC. I can't say I know much about the NSV being more a collector of military related paperwork. Care to shed any light on what they were responsible for? The images seem to be a bit too small - any chance of seeing an enlarged version of the second image?

You might wish to post your question on the 12 O'Clock High forum as there are members there that have databases of LW officers - providing that Theo Weber was an officer obviously.

I am sure that there will be plenty of information on SMS Derfflinger on the web and in books as she was a well known ship for her raids on the British coast in the years prior to Jutland.

As for the others if you try a Google search (using SMS before the ships name) then you will obtain at least some basic details of them (Charlotte was a support vessel for SMS König Wilhelm). Wiki has some information on at least König Wilhelm, Von der Tann & Victoria Louise.

Hildebrand & Lohmann Vol III does not list any 'Friese' with the forename of Hermann. The closest match is a Heinz Friese who was born on 24th June 1902 in Wilhelmshaven and he was an engineer. He held various posts in WW2 to do with construction and repair including two in Marinegruppenkdo West with his final posting being Techn. Beschaffungsamt der KM from August 1944 to wars end.

You could try the WASt but if you are not a relative the chances are they will not give you any information. There is no Theo Weber listed in the Ordenstrager so he didn't win any high awards such as the RK, DKiG or Ehrenpokal and what information you have is very basic (no rank, units, place of birth etc) so it will be hard to track down any information on him. He isn't listed in the Volksbund KIA/MIA database either.

If it is someone from 'Immelman' and he won it while with them then maybe he is listed on this site. Just expand the search, select Luftwaffe and in the box labelled Einheit put Immelman - unfortunately they don't all have pictures...

http://www.das-ritterkreuz.de

I think it is just two 13's and a 36. Code 13 is for VD!

Nice wehrpass Gordon. It is a pity that the SB was split from this but at least you have the scans that allow you to see why he was busted.

I'm no good at identifying people but if the IAB lapel pin is a staffel badge then it would indicate that he is a ground attack pilot. I know that some aircraft of SchG 2 used that insignia on their Hs-129 aircraft in mid-1942 and their are pleny of photos of Hs-123 aircraft from earlier in the war also showing that insignia.

Have you tried to see if his personnel file is kept in any of the archives (NARA etc)? Depending on how complete it is (or how available it is) it could have the report of his actions for the recommendation of his award.

As for 98 ID, there are 2 books covering the units history. Both are in German...

Martin Gareis - Kampf und Ende der fränkisch sudetendeutschen 98. Infanterie Division

W. Schulz - Der Weg der 98. Infanterie Division 1939-1945

I'm afraid that is one of the ones that sat in my 'to do' pile and which I never got round to doing before I had a little spring clean and shifted 10 or so of my Wehrpasse/Soldbucher.

I used to own that soldbuch until either last year or earlier this year! Funny how every now and then the same ones crop up.

You wil need to register to use the AH Forum but it is worth it and totally free.

The OOB for 9 Armee is listed here...

http://www.axishistory.com/index.php?id=6477

If you scroll down to Heeresgruppe Mitte, and then scroll down a little more then you will find all the units allocated to 9 Armee, including 258 Inf.Div + Grp 'Manteuffel' (9, 10, 11 Jag.Btls). Axis History Forum is definitely a forum you should be signed up for when it comes to researching units and numerous other subject matter.

The map images are taken from Kursk 1943 A Statistical Analysis by Niklas Zetterling & Anders Frankson and show the advance of 9 Armee on the 5-6th July 1943. By the 12th July they were further south and past Gnilets.

The entry for 9th July 1943 states for the Northern Front: During this day no new attacks were performed by the Germans. Rather, they spent most of the day preparing for attacks to be conducted the following day. Soviet forces mounted counterattacks trying to push the Germans back to the starting line. These attacks failed to achieve any gains.

So maybe he was killed fending off these counterattacks in the area of Gnilets?

Gnilets looks to be on the boundary between 31 ID (which was XXXXVI Pz.Korps) and 20 PD (which was XXXVIII Pz.Korps)

If he died 300km SE of Kursk then he wasn't involved in that battle as that is much too far away. Belgorod was at the southern neck of the bulge and that is approx 130 km SE of Kursk. However Jager Btl 9 was part of Gruppe von Manteuffel (XXXXVI Pz Korps) of 9 Armee for the Kursk Offensive so is there another place by that name as 9 Armee was on the northern side of the bulge and the FpNr does match Jager Btl 9?

One of the places in the path of XXXXVI Pz.Korps right on the front line was a place called Gnilets - could this be it?

Your best bet for research is the Navy Lists...

www.navylistresearch.co.uk

...plus The National Archives...

www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/research-guides/royal-navy-officer-service.htm

Very nice dirk by the way. I don't collect anything of the sort but can certainly appreciate them.

Very nice photo. That is the first time I have ever seen a real Fg Waffenrock as opposed to the Recruiters one that is usually 'talked up' to be Fg by dealers despite no arm eagle/cuff band.

You can read the location better then I can as I can't make it out! Have you tried to see if he is in the on-line Volksbund database that might (maybe a big might) give a modern day alternative of where he died or is buried? Unfortunately alot of the places in Russia from the war years are now called something entirely different or might be small enough (i.e. a village in the middle of nowhere) that they don't warrant any recorded listings, at least on the net.

Jager Bataillone's were independant Heer units and generally stronger equipped then ones that were part of Gebirgsjager/Jager Divisions. The only additional information I have been able to find is on Feldgrau Forum... www.feldgrau.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=6749&start=0

Heinrici???

The espionage thing is quite a common thing to see in Wehrpasse as it just means that the person has had a briefing on, basically. security measures. Here is such an entry in a WP from my collection to someone badly wounded at El-Alamein and discharged from the Wehrmacht.

Didn't Christoph Awender give a translation of these on AHF about 10 days ago?

Unit History - Kampfgeschwader 55 'Greif' - Eine Chronik aus Dokumenten und Berichten 1937-45 (ISBN 978-3879433407)