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To say nothing about Judge not, and you shall not be judged

Natural consequences of vertical integration

Close-up`s "Stas" at the top

Very international clerk with 2nd class Lion (civil division)

Now amazing piece in bronze. Destroyed bars and added (by cavalier???) swords (and what swords! )

Bronze

Gold

Well, let`s see As we know russian Kapitul was very strict (back in these days) about order returning policy (after the death of cavalier) Frankly I don`t think that they would care that much if their orders were made in bronze. But indeed some of our coleagues say that at least some (or even majority!) of the Kapitul Anna`s from the early days were made in bronze alloy. No hard proof (at least known to me) for both veiw points Anyway, I bet you are already bored to death with all my mumbling, so let`s hit pictures Kapitul Anna in gold

The most terrible thing Lars, is that some of them take active part in manufacturing of these peices. It`s like vertically integrated corporation

Hi Lars, these particular examples are modern fakes. One on post #132 was offered for sal by one (quite famous) dealer about five or four years ago. Now that`s where fun begins! Piece in post #131 were brought to the (notorious) expert from State Historical Museum and he ... said it`s 100% ok original piece

Master of the Horse Serebrjakov M.A.

Same thoughts here

Paul, as far as I remember all orders (even order of this early type) that were issued by Chapter (Kapitul) were made in gold. Bronze = private (contemporary) workshops

GK + EK

Interesting group of miniatures (to put mildly )

Damn right! You are not alone Yes these (and bronze ones) could be privately ordered copies for day-to-day wear (+ very often cavaliers sold their official "gold with diamonds" orders and were using these as replacement )

By the way, even the best source devoted to the RF awards doesn`t have images of the actual order http://www.gosnagrada.ru/ordersuvor.htm

Aa far as know this order should has number 3 on reverse (all orders (not only Suvorov) with number 1 weren`t issued) Here comes original line drawings

Actually you said "bye" a long time ago You constantly contradicts to your very self What are you talking about?! What responsiblility? For what? For providing new images of rare order (many of which you can`t "google") and awarding ceremony? Then yes, I accept full responsiblity for that!

One one thing is for certain - your own intentions are quite clear and obvious! Now you trying to talk your way out of this mess. Not very impressive job! You asked Ok. So naturally I think he can`t read Ukaz. Let`s help him out No "thanks" and And then you have a nerve to write Two moderators. One openly provocating a member to break the club rules. Another one is simply insulting him and demanding to "close him up permanently" Are they gentleman`s? Hardly!

One thing is for certain - he is good with his hands

They even sacrificed one "stone" for the sake of authenticity

Yes, of course Basil Arthur Naden Woods. Thanks D

At least they got rid of these rediculously looking "seals"

Certainly! I am sure he will greatly appreciate it. "Team work" at its best Plain as a pikestaff