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Two additional items in the group

Record card for Red Banner

On June 11, 1983 ... At the head of a platoon ... with fire from all kinds of weapons lilled more than 20 insurgents. On its way back column was ambushed... In this fight senior lieutenant Konnov V.I. personally killed 9 insurgents but was seriously wounded and died.

Citation

Red Banner

Record card for RS

On March 10, 1983 ... acted decisively and boldly ... killed by platoon fire more than 15 bandits. Personally killed 3 insurgents.

On April 26, 1983 ... despite the bullet wound in the shoulder, showed dedication ... personally from sub-machine-gun killed more than 10 insurgents.

Citation for RS

Judging by this tags

this group had "museum provenance"

Interesting group that was sold about six-seven months ago.

Red star + posthumous Red Banner

RS

Interesting that decal image of order in the document still has paulownia leaf directly affixed to the sun medallion

Clevis mounting is already in place

Another time coordinate

Doc that was issued in 1878

Reverse

Yes, but what about "flat pin" Manchu pilot badge (was shown in posts # 53)?! (Sometimes I heard this argument). Well, my answer will be simple - according to the official line drawing from Match 1940 original badge should have different pin on reverse + two raws of kanji

That`s what I am talking about

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The light weight badges.....this interests me as those in your collection ,Tods and mine all are from the same source,they have an identical bubble / flaw at 7pm ,and a matching flaw on the hinge.

Yes Steve, all these badges (post #209, post # 228, etc) were made by the same manufacturer and come in two colors - gold and silver.

So would it not be realistic to put these badges into different camps

Yes, these are from the different camp than "flat pin" badges.

The only question - where this camp is located.

In safe green zone of original badges or red one that is full of fakes.

Too many strange features these badges have

Weight

Material

Size

Star

Color of wings (whats up with this gold wings?!)

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Personally I've never seen inscribed badges of this type and this is quite strange (especially since we saw more than two badges of this type even in this thread)

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We know for a fact (because of inscribed badges) that classical "bronze" badges were in use (at least) until 1943.

Regards,

Nick

Looks nice Steve!

Thanks for additional photos!

Nice marked 4th class from 1900s-1910s.

Cheers,

Nick

Nice badge Mickey!

100% original ;)

Of course it is Ordre national de la Légion d'honneur

... am I not correct in saying that alloy badges were issued late war ??

Frankly I will be more than happy if all these "flat pin" badges and "light" badges turn out to be originals ...

Because you see I also have these in my collection

Unfortunately lately I become very suspicious about their provenance.

As per today I don't have definitive proof that these are fakes (that's why "?") excerpt that

a) some of these badges don't have any signs of wear and looks suspiciously "fresh"

b) when they are not a) these signs of wear often look like they were artificially added by some "enthusiast"

c) badges with flat pin often sold in Japan as copies (and their hummer prices usually correspond to this status)

d) I can't find any evidence (photo or others) that these badges are "late war" badges

e) if these are indeed "late war" badges, then there are too many of them around (at least for my money)

Yes, but what about "flat pin" Manchu pilot badge (was shown in posts # 53)?! (Sometimes I heard this argument). Well, my answer will be simple - according to the official line drawing from Match 1940 original badge should have different pin on reverse + two raws of kanji

Regards,

Nick