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Japanese Red Cross Society 25th Anniversary Celebration Commemorative Jetton/Watch Fob

https://asiamedals.info/threads/japanese-red-cross-society-25th-anniversary-celebration-commemorative-jetton.24337/

The case is original. 

Eleven years later?!  

Traditional Chinese  滿洲國 - Mǎn zhōu guó
Simplified Chinese 满洲国 - Mǎn zhōu guó

Shinjitai   満洲国 - Mǎn zhōu guó

滿 = 满 = 満

https://asiamedals.info/threads/manchukuo-red-cross-society-ordinary-member-watch-fob.24410/

https://asiamedals.info/forums/manchukuo-red-cross-society-medals-and-badges.702/

Note: Both terms are used.

盃 - Sakazuki.  A Japanese cup for drinking saké.

軍盃 - Military Sakazuki or Gunpai. 

Excerpt for the flag this is a standard Manchukuo service cup with standard lines: Manchukuo Border Defense + Discharge Commemorative  https://asiamedals.info/threads/inscriptions-of-japanese-military-sake-cups-sakazuki.25889/

So why such an unusual flag? Typically there should be Manchukuo or Japanese flag (or both). Guess he could serve on the border with Inner Mongolia and decided to use colors of early Mengjiang flag (1936–1939). Although colors order is wrong.

Un homme très, très chanceux...

On 13/09/2023 at 03:05, Farkas said:

it is being treated as a copy, understandably, as even i know now that these should have an ‘issue’ number stamped on them and this doesn’t. 

This is a privately commissioned cross. Looks like it was made in Moscow by unidentified manufacturer "Н.Д" in white metal sometime around 1916/1917.

Regarding the absence of number and class 

On 13/09/2023 at 03:05, Farkas said:

so i’m hoping to find out how old the ribbon is?

Ribbon bar and ribbon have nothing to do with Imperial Russia. Most likely both were taken from the soviet medal.

8th class Rising Sun order awarded for the Russo-Japanese war. 

Issued on April 1, 1906. Army transportation corps. Bearer Shohachi Okumura.

Yes, original.

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... cannot for the life of me see the M or even a faint outline of an M.

Is it the same breast star? If these photos were made by the seller he could sent you (most likely by mistake) a different star.   

On 05/09/2023 at 02:55, TracA said:

but the star has no marks whatsoever.

Of course it has M mark  

On 05/09/2023 at 02:55, TracA said:

Are there any known time coordinates for cases with the gold border, or a border at all?

Most likely this case was manufactured before 1938  https://asiamedals.info/threads/silver-kanji-vs-gold-kanji-lettering-on-the-lids-of-the-japanese-order-cases.26112/ 

But such set could be awarded in 1938/1939/1940.

On 05/09/2023 at 02:55, TracA said:

It truly is a beautiful set.

Yes, indeed.

Best,

Nick

Yes, of course  https://asiamedals.info/threads/how-to-read-dates-in-chinese-award-documents.23570/

Somehow I mechanically type the numbers 六十三/63 and 七十二/72 instead of converting them.

Ces deux sont des originaux. Moderne et sans intérêt du point de vue d'un collectionneur.

Mais presque tout le reste est faux.

Zhōnghuá mínguó liùshísān nián yī yuè yī rì chū bǎn zǒngtǒng fǔ dì sān jú biān yìn

Zhōnghuá mínguó qīshí'èr nián yī yuè dìng zài bǎn

Zhōnghuá mínguó xūnzhāng túshuō

Zǒngtǒng fǔ dì sān jú biān yìn

Best,

Nick

https://asiamedals.info/threads/imperial-household-department-silver-medal.23714/

中華民國六十三年一月一日初  版 - Republic of China First edition of January 1, 1963 
中華民國七十二年一月 訂再  版 - Reprinted in January 1972
中華民國勳章圖説 - [Explanation of the] Medals of the Republic of China Guide  

總統府第三局編印 - Compiled and printed by the Third Bureau of the Presidential Office

4 hours ago, Farkas said:

 

If I remember correctly...

 

https://asiamedals.info/threads/official-chart-of-orders-of-merit-and-membership-medals-of-the-japanese-red-cross-society.24344/

"Gold detail" is a post-war (1956+) golden special member medal.

This one is a lifetime medal (1941+).

男 - Male [version of the medal]

終身社員章代品 - Lifetime Employee/Member Medal

Nice watch fob. Well-worn. All original silvering is almost completely gone (stamp is also interesting - different stamp variation https://asiamedals.info/threads/china-incident-commemorative-badges-and-watch-fobs.22957/page-7#post-359368)

The traces of silvering are still visible.

Best,

Nick

5 hours ago, TracA said:

 

 

These ink stamps serve two purposes: help the correct alignment of the lid and the base of the case and (sometimes) indicate the manufacturer of the badge.

The most popular ink stamp  is kanji 合 - fit, joint.

Best,

Nick

Nice badge made by Gyokuhō /玉寶堂/ in Tokyo. As we know one of the main manufacturers of Women's Patriotic Association badges https://asiamedals.info/threads/special-supporter-member-badge-of-womens-patriotic-association.25981/

Workshop was also an official purveyor to the Imperial Household Ministry /宮内省御用達/

No wonder it received so many different contracts

https://asiamedals.info/threads/good-attendance-commendation-badge-from-tokyo-railway-bureau.14606

https://asiamedals.info/threads/construction-of-the-imperial-volunteer-fleet-donation-badges.24689

Etc, etc, etc.

Best,

Nick

Looks ok. At least judging by these photos.  

Lost its removable shield with numbers, but it could be worse.

Index of 50th Anniversary of the Imperial Rescript to to Soldiers and Sailors badges and watch fobs  https://asiamedals.info/threads/50th-anniversary-of-emperor-meiji-rescript-to-soldiers-and-sailors-commemorative-badges-and-watch-fobs.26762/

Best,

Nick

50th Anniversary of the Imperial Rescript to to Soldiers and Sailors

https://asiamedals.info/threads/50th-anniversary-plaque-and-watch-fob-of-the-imperial-rescript-to-to-soldiers-and-sailors-medaru.24486/

Shako eagle from 1833-1857 time period. 

Nice one. 

Looks like it has typical for Japanese orders "cataract of the enamel"  https://asiamedals.info/threads/when-japanese-orders-are-getting-sick.12614

Best,

Nick

P.S. Judging by the mark it was issued somewhere around 1982-1983.  

Outer case is original. Inscription was added by owner or somebody else (it duplicates inscription of the lacquered case). 

Best,

Nick