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On 30/09/2021 at 23:31, Triadoro said:

 

Hello, and you're welcome.  

 

Also, I would not focus too much on that teardrop shaped award featuring a Lutheran rose with flames shooting out of its ass, and here's the reason why:  it doesn't make sense in position #10.

 

Side note:  frock-chains, like frock-bars, are read from right to left, not left to right.  So the teardrop shaped medal is not in position #7, but rather in position #10.  FYI.

 

All of the awards on your chain are attached in the proper order of precedence.  This is why the teardrop shaped award stands out like a sore thumb... it doesn't belong there unless it's an award from a German state, which it is not.

 

Side note: most Saxons would not put the Prussian Iron Cross in first place, but after the war, some (not most) Saxons actually preferred the Iron Cross in first place.  It must have made them look "brave."

 

The order of precedence that your chain follows is correct:  Saxon wartime awards, Saxon peacetime awards, German states' wartime awards, German states' peacetime awards, foreign wartime awards, foreign peacetime awards. 

 

The teardrop award is undoubtedly foreign and, therefore, would have been mounted in a position on the chain accordingly.  I believe there a strong chance that another mini (an award from a German state) was removed from the chain and replaced with this odd looking bauble.  Regards.

 

 

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I think this is very probably true. That said, the flower depicted could be the Lippische Rose - but I don't immediately recall any awards from Lippe that are shaped like this. Nevertheless, perhaps a placeholder for a lost Lippe award?

Kind regards, 

Sandro

Japan, Order of the Sacred Treasure, I think. Not sure what class.

https://www.emedals.com/japan-an-order-of-the-sacred-treasure-5th-class

Kind regards, 

Sandro

On 15/09/2021 at 09:31, laurentius said:

Thank you for this link Sandro, it's not often that we can put a face (even if it is a metal plaque rather than a photo) on jewelers of the past.

 

Kind regards, Laurentius

My pleasure Laurentius.

Kind regards,

Sandro

1 hour ago, Christian1962 said:

I think, I could provide some infos too:

01.11.1878 Leutnant i.d.Res. (DR 3)

 

01.11.1889 Oberleutnant (DR 14)

 

01.05.1897 Rittmeister (DR 14)

 

01.05.1908 Major (DR 14)

 

01.05.1912 Oberstleutnant (DR 14)

 

01.11.1914 Oberst [70] (DR 14)

 

01.05.1918 Generalmajor with rank from 14.06.1918

 

Here a link to Austrian States Archives: https://www.archivinformationssystem.at/detail.aspx?ID=76043

 

Regards

Christian

Many thanks Christian, very much appreciated!

Best, 

Sandro

Excellent, many thanks Christian!

If Glenn or another membe has some info on his career to share, that would give me all I'm looking for for the moment.

Many thanks again, best wishes, 

Sandro

Rauch attributes this austrian piece to Schwerdtner:

https://www.hdrauch.com/site/de/coins.php?akcija=showSingleLot&what=goStart&a_sn=c112&a_gid=6310&a_pid=603&ad_id=107705

Not a decoration, but it could mean heproduced more than just Bulgarian awards.

Kind regards,

Sandro

Same here:

https://www.numisbids.com/n.php?p=lot&sid=2539&lot=544

For a project I'm working on, could anyone please help me out with a career and awards list (and if possible, a pic or pics, preferably with foreign awards in wear)  for the good GM referenced in the header, former Flügeladjutant of Emperor Franz Joseph and apparently (after the latter's death) Kommader of the 11th (and so I gather, later 13th) KuK Kavallerie-Brigade? 

I found the two pics shown below on the web, but otherwise did not find much beyond some bare dates.

Any help you can give is very much appreciated.

Kind regards,

 Sandro

12 hours ago, Graf said:

Graf, are these items (and is the pic) yours? Unless I'm mistaken, these were once part of Mark Avery's collection? 

Kind regards, 

Sandro

https://www.ehrenzeichen-orden.de/deutsche-staaten/koniglicher-militar-st-heinrichs-orden-kommandeurkreuz-vergl-oek-2086.html
 

http://www.medalnet.net/St_Henry_Order.htm
 

Kind regards,

Sandro

Not Ibel, I think, see pic 1. Walther Dahl (pic 2) came to mind, but the dates don't match.

The general (if that is what he is) indeed looks like Conrath, the Hauptmann on the right does not really resemble Galland, though. and as Stephan pointed out, Galland was promoted to majoron 19 July 1940, whereas Conrath only received his KC in 1941. 

The Hauptmann's awards are too generic to permit identification by reference to those, and in the absence of other distinguishing uniform features (like a CT etc.) it may simply not be possible to identify him unless someone recognizes him.

Kind regards,

Sandro

Perhaps this helps? 

Kind regards, 

Sandro

Pleasure.

Sure, here you go: 

https://www.weitze.net/militaria/86/Preussen_Generalsgeflecht_mit_Fangschnur_fuer_einen_Generalleutnant__364786.html

https://www.weitze.net/militaria/18/Preussen_Generalsgeflecht_mit_Fangschnur_fuer_einen_Generalmajor__364818.html

https://www.weitze.net/militaria/85/Preussen_Generalsgeflecht_mit_Fangschnur_fuer_einen_Generalleutnant_um_1900__284485.html

Kind regards, 

Sandro

Pleasure.

17 hours ago, filfoster said:

What is the book these are from?

Filfoster,

See my post of 25 May 2020: 

DIENST- UND RANGABZEICHEN DER OFFIZIERE UND BEAMTEN der Königlich Bayerischen Armee 1806 bis 1918. W. Seibold / G. M. Schulz

Kind regards,

Sandro

Hi Simi, 

That occurred to me, too, but he is not listed as a recipient in Die Theresienritter im Weltkriege, nor on the web. I'll have a look at other resources as time permits.

Kind rergards, 

Sandro

12 minutes ago, freiherr said:

A bit too blurry to make any more constructive comment. But it was Jehlin and I have seen this event being dated as taking place in 1917 with Bavarian 8th Res Div parade.

 

2nd pic on extreme left  was Walter v Walderstötten, Gen Adj of König Ludwig III

5th pic second left next to v Jehlin was v Conta Kmdr of Karpathen Korps. Second right next to Kaiser Wilhelm was Austrain FM Kövess

 

Thanks

Freiherr’s ID looks to be correct: http://prussianmachine.com/diva/jehlin.htm 

Kind regards,

Sandro

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Hi Karlo, perfect, thank you very much!

Here is another Funke pic I won recently, signed and dated.

Best, 

Sandro

Like Bayern, as said, I don't think the collar and cuffs are French, because of their facing colour. 

I've checked Die deutsche Generale by MilitariaVerlag and Pietsch' Formationsgeschichte des preußischen Heeres, and based on that, don't believe they are German imperial, either. The double row of oaks leaves on the cuffs does not fit the general officer pattern in use in any of the states documented in those references (which amongst them, cover the period 1806-1918). The facing color seems closer to that used by general staff, but the emboridery does not fit patterns in use in the general staffs/war ministries of the German states, either (Saxony in the 1870's had special embroidery for general staff officers that involved a leave pattern, but it is different from the ones on your collar and cuffs). 

I think it may be worth seeing if you can find a reference for general officers or general staff officers in the armies of the South American states identified by Bayern. Perhaps that will yield a match. 

Kind regards, 

Sandro

The pattern seems to emulate that of the dark blue Prussian general’s gestickte Waffenrock in use up to 1909.  

Based on the pics, I’m not sure it is original, though: the embroidery on the arm patches is of a different pattern the Prussian model, acorns are embroidered, the leaves seem flat, not the almost 3 dimensional embroidery seen on originals, and the background color seems off (compare the first pic below for Ponceaurot without flash).

Compare: https://www.militaria.at/ShowPageNew.aspx?id=634886745377944044 and the pics below.

Any evidence of buttons having been present on the cuffs? 

I'm by no means an expert on French general's tunics, but from memory they do not tend to have red/carmine facing color on the sleeves and collar. A quick google search seems to bear that out. 

Since I love a puzzle, I'll dig into my references as time permits, but identification may take a while (if indeed it happens), because many armies around 1900 used a pattern of this kind for high ranking offers, officials and diplomats.

BTW, the rounding of the collar may also be an identifying trait.

Kind regards,

Sandro

21 minutes ago, Chris Boonzaier said:

That is it in a nutshell... I can look at 100 pairs of straps and 2 will be relevant for me... fact is, if you even see 1 or 2 pairs of fieldgrey straps a week on all sale platforms you are doing well... but to se one of the 3-4 you are really after only happens every few years... and it took me 10 years to find this regiment ?

The though part of course is to stay focussed in the period in-between and safe your pennies for that one piece you really want ..... ? As Stefan says, we all struggle with that. ....

But these straps go to the heart of your collection, so well done, your patience has paid off ....

Cheers, 

Sandro

3 hours ago, Chris Boonzaier said:

She is used to it by now... no sexy underwear compares to a 105 year old pair of Gamaschen!! Buuuut... here it is... maybe not even the most impressive find of the month... but it took 10 years to find them... they are not even 100% matching, but did belong to one man, an Uffz. decorated with the EK1, but did not get the Leiberring for some reason, I have to check his files... He was Leib Regiment in WW1, then Freikorps, then a LW officer in WW2 ....

Conrats Chris, well worth the wait ?

2 hours ago, Chris Boonzaier said:

I get a feeling it may be waiting for me when I get home today!!!

I fully understand the excitement and anticipation, but that is no way to talk about your wife ..... ?