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Thanks Chris. And I see I forgot to thank Komtur: many ? !

Perfect, many, many thanks Christophe. 

Chris, is this thread not worthy of a pin?

This is one of the cornerstones of WWI imperial German order-collecting, in my view. 

Kind regards, 

Sandro

47 minutes ago, Chris Boonzaier said:

I have an Iron Cross group where the guy has 2 iron Cross 2nd class documents, issued by 2 different units to document the same award, which was made by a previous 3rd unit.

Ah, German bureaucracy.....

At least know for sure he was awarded the EK II ....

Does anyone have a scan of/the text of the AKO of 16 November 1916 prescribing the use of gilded silver for imperial German awards formerly made in gold?

I would like to check something with a view to a discussion on another forum.

Many thanks and kind regards,

 Sandro

I'm inclined to follow Chris on this - a Legitimation is not an award certificate, and he may be that Oppelt sought to justify/document entitlement by reference, first to his time in KUK IR 94, and then to his time with the KUK Fliegerersatztruppe. Whether time before December 1916 counts for eligibility for the Karl Truppenkreuz will depend on the rules/statutes governing that award - but if it did, that may explain the IR 94 Legitimation.

Kind regards,

 Sandro

1915 predates the date of the cross’ institution in December 1916, after Karl had ascended to the throne(s).

Are you sure the date is correct/the Urkunde is in fact for a Karl truppenkreuz/is genuine?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Troop_Cross

Kind regards,

Sandro

Pleasure!

2 hours ago, Deutschritter said:

Seeing the k.u.k. uniform, which k.u.k. regiment was he "Chef" or "Inhaber" of? Thanks!

Generalfeldmarschall von Mackensen als Inhaber des K. u. K. österreichisch=ungarischen Husaren=Regiments König Friedrich Wilhelm III. von Preußen Nr. 10

https://www.deutsche-digitale-bibliothek.de/item/C4C5N3EK5WS3PAMIXJDSL7CMNGIPA4BM

Kind regards,

 Sandro

Just ordered my copy, congrats Chris!

On 02/01/2021 at 10:54, numis said:

Thank you for the actual informational content/ part  of your postings Sandro.

You're welcome. As Chris points out, perhaps you'll get further input if you actually contribute info or pics yourself. I see you say you cannot post pics, but it must surely be possible to contribute info. Questions, of course, are not for the benefit of all, answers are - so if you have those to share (and you claim to have written books, if I understood you correctly, so you must have some) please feel free to do so, even in response to post off others. 

Kind regards,

 Sandro

Very nice, thanks for sharing Christophe!

Helmut Weitze has several litewka's, on offer, mostly wartime, some with silver buttons, some with golden, some with patterned buttons, some with flat ones: 

https://www.weitze.net/cgi-bin/suche/suche.pl?q=litewka#s=alle,

I'd need to confirm this by reference to the regulations, but as far as button-colour goes, I'd not be surprised if that simply followed the regulations for the tunic of the unit or rank of the wearer. In other words: gold or silver as specified in the regulations for the tunic the wearer was entitled to wear based on his rank (officers of general rank generally wore gold in most states, but there were exceptions) or assignment. 

Hope this lhelps, will have look as time permits over then ext week or so to see if the regulations bear this out. 

Kind regards,

Sandro

Litewka, which era are you interested in, pre-war or wartime?

Kind regards,

Sandro

8 hours ago, Glenn J said:

Guys,

I have this young Ludwig Freiherr von Malsen in 1894.

Regards

Glenn

 

Great find Glenn. I’d say his face has the same features as that of the gentleman in the pic Chris posted, so I think Chris’ identification was correct.

Kind regards,
Sandro

5 minutes ago, Komtur said:

You could also directly contact Dr. Frank Wernitz. He is additionally a member of the scientific advisory council of the Deutsche Gesellschaft für Ordenskunde.

?

https://www.armeemuseum.de/de/2-uncategorised/68-impressum.html

https://www.armeemuseum.de/de/service/ansprechpartner/dr-ansgar-reiss.html

I'm pretty sure that if you e-mail them they will write back.

15 minutes ago, Chris Boonzaier said:

That is a nice set of medals! From where he is standing, I think the Flugel Adj with the spiked Helmet is probably that od Rupprecht... at this time von Malsen. And the fact that it is a Leiber uniform and seems to be corresponding medal bar... would you agree there are extremely good chances it is him?

I think you are probably correct. Have you contacted the museum in Ingolstadt to see if they have a picture of von Malsen?

Not sure when in 1914 the pic was taken, but the front row seems to be Rupprecht and 2 of his sons, with heir apparent Luitpold Maximilian Ludwig Karl on the right (who, I gather, died on August 27, 1914).

Second row is Prinz Ludwig Ferdinand plus two Flugeladjutanten (or a Flügeladjutant and a Generaladjutant (hard to make out - the plume says no, the Kantillen on the epaulette are unclear and the Zahringer Löwe Komtur says maybe... My money is on two Flügeladjutanten, though).

Cheers,

 Sandro 

Chris, I think this may indeed well be the Orden des Sterns von Rumänien Offizierskreuz your man apparently had.

These are not hard to come by.

Cheers, 

Sandro

8 hours ago, numis said:

Any information obtained/ forthcoming  is for the benefit of all members who might read it, not just the inquirer

The purpose of my postings is to bring forth information that does not appear to be readily available or published 

I  have written and had published for the public good over 50 journal articles on ODM as well as a major standard reference work  of two volumes and 1,657 pages on ODM.

Can those who make uncalled for comments equal this record ?

Wonderful, congratulations. Share, and who knows, you may receive..... So far, all you have done on GMiC is post help requests for items you have, without pictures, just descriptions. That is barely of interest to anyone but yourself - sounds more like you’re looking to sell items and are testing the market. 

Kind regards,

Sandro

Best of luck, you now know what it is called in German, so you can no doubt do your own search  now. And oh, “thank you” is common courtesy here - it is, after all, a Gentleman’s club ....

IR4 is one of the most famous regiments in the Austrian-Hungarian army. Your query is a bit generic, but perhaps this offers some responses/can help you find what you are looking for:

https://www.dorotheum.com/en/l/6704934/

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/K.u.k._Infanterieregiment_„Hoch-_und_Deutschmeister“_Nr._4
 

Kind regards,

Sandro

Vince, don't bother - all our friend does is post questions. Topics, no contributions, no real info on his membership page, nothing. A ghost. perhaps ? ?

Seriously? All you do is post help request without pics? No contributions, nothing?

Based on your title and a simple 5 min Google search (which you could easily have done yourself based on the text on the medal) I found this: 

https://tompress.shop/de/produkt/oesterreich-ungarn-1896-jubilaeumsmedaille-zu-200-jahre-des-ir-nr-4-hoch-und-deutschmeister/

https://www.suedsteiermarkversand.at/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=3656

If that is what you have, its a nice medal but neither rare nor expensive.

Kind regards, 

Sandro

Numis,

I rink you can do your own research on what seems to be a very specific question.  I've stumbled upon some of your other poss as well, and the once I've seen contain no contributions, just question.

As said, this is not a wishing well.

Kind regards, 

Sandro