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A picture would be helpful/

Kind regards, 

Sandro

10 hours ago, Chris Boonzaier said:

aaaahhhh... it is way easier than it seems.... we got rid of two old wardrobes... each had a thin sheet of wood as a back wall... I varnished one, painted the other, got the fancy strip of wood in the middle from a home depot... and there is the background....

Well, it works, so well done!

A very nice display, you have a gift Chris.

2 hours ago, Chris Boonzaier said:

Duh ! That was AAAAALLLL for me! ?

The 2 glasses came out of a garbage tip in old German positions in the Argonne... 100 years under the ground!

No surprises there ?..... Cheers ?!

6 minutes ago, Chris Boonzaier said:

Hi, the uniforms and blue cap are are from his auction, the rest just added to complete the photo.

I was referring to the drink Chris - are you sure it was just him having a drink with himself? ?

You sure it is just him .....? 

16 hours ago, GMU said:

Militär Max Joseph Order

 

Gorgeous, and well presented GMU!

32 minutes ago, Ravenft said:

Thanks for the reference! Well mine doesn't have that watered look that your has. Also the blue stripes on mine are a lot wider. I don't have a UV bulb to test it but the material doesn't feel like silk. And the edges have a different weave to them. I am guessing it is an old replacement ribbon?

Well possible, based on your description, but hard to say without having it in hand. It may still be good to do a blacklight test - if the ribbon fails that, that is a strong indication of post WWI (and probably post WWII, although that is debated)  manufacture. 

6 hours ago, Ravenft said:

It looks like just under 5 1/2 cm.

Do you think it’s the Neck Ribbon then? It doesn't have a tie.

 

Christophe is correct, it looks like a ribbon for the commanders cross which if real, is not a bad catch.

Kind regards,

Sandro

Pleasure. I'm not sure how often this occurred, but perhaps the answer lies in hte fact that the MMJO is a pure bravery award while the BMVO is more of a meritorious service award.

As to pics, I would have to search.

Here are his entries in the Militär Handbuch 1916 (where is listed as a Hauptmann im Generalstab):

Oddly, his MMJO is not (yet) listed, and he does not (yet) feature in the list of MMJO knightscross recipients set out at the outset of the Handbuch.

Kind regards,

 Sandro 

3 hours ago, Glenn J said:

That appears to Albert Ritter von Beckh to the right of the officer at front centre. I think probably very early post war.

Regards

Glenn

Sounds about right - one of the gentlemen in the center has what  could be a Freikorps badge on the upper right arm, and others as Chris pointed out seem to wear (Freikorps) cuff titles. 

Kind regards,

 Sandro

Here you go, Laurentius, early Ostfront award from the looks of it.

Kind regards,

 Sandro

Come on Numis, this forum is not a wishing-well.

If this is an area of interest to you, why not do some digging yourself, here or on the web?

Not too hard to find a starting pioint and take it from there: https://www.ehrenzeichen-orden.de/c/kaiserreich/kolonien

http://themedalhound.com/german/main.html

http://www.germancolonialuniforms.co.uk

Kind regards,

Sandro

Very nice, congrats Chris.

Checking pics on the web, it strikes me that Baviarian's cin the king's entourage simply did not generally wear EK II's. 

If there is no evidence of an EK II ribbon having been attached to the coat I would personally not attach one. Is the coat prewar or wartime? Some pics of the coat and loops might help.

7 hours ago, Chris Boonzaier said:

Our dudes are here....

 

Thanks, I had forgotten about that thread. Based on those pics, why not keep an eye out for an adjutant sash and aguilettes? That will set up the coat nicely, for substantially less than any of the orders you would need.

20 minutes ago, Chris Boonzaier said:

I am wondering if he maybe did wear it... he was still Obersthoffmeister until the end of the war, and continued to be in the close entourage until the death of Ludwig III... and then looked after the family affairs for a short while afterwards... He did visit the front on various occasions with Ludwig but I am assuming on regular duties back in München he would have made use of all the Blue stuff in a wardrobe?

Possible. Is the coat dated?

And are there any pics of him wearing it in the HH auction catalogue (which is still up)?

17 hours ago, Chris Boonzaier said:

Hi,

indeed... but as it is the Überrock of Leonrod, I need something he would have worn ?

EK II on a folded ribbon suspended from the second buttonhole would be a start if he still wore the coat after receiving that decoration (from memory, it is a pre-war blue coat, but who knows). 

Cheers, Sandro

If the Rock was worn past the award date of the EK II you could in any event mount an EK II in the manner shown in the von Plettenberg pic you posted.

35 minutes ago, Chris Boonzaier said:

Why does he not have an MVO on the bar?

He had an BMVO officers cross with swords that probably fits the loops on your coat - not cheap, not cheap ...... ?

If there is no evidence of an EK II ribbon having been attached to the coat I would personally not attach one. Is the coat prewar or wartime? Some pics of the coat and loops might help.

And perhaps this could offer some inspiration: 

The clipping is from the Militär Handbuch 1914, and I have assumed the coat is one of the pre-war blue ones auctioned at HH and that this is your man. If you want to go with a foreign there: perhaps a ÖFJ1 or ÖEK2? 

Possible, if he got one and the coat is wartime, if it is prewar, this would look good though: https://www.dorotheum.com/de/l/6920260/ and checking hte HH catalogue there was one in the estate. Perhaps a commanders grade pre-war foreign award? unfortunately, the only commanders grade I noticed on checking hte catalogue was the ÖMVO2, and these tend to be only slightly less expensive than the BMVO2. But if he was awarded something Italian for example, that might work.

Cheers, 

Sandro

A commanders cross at the neck would not be uncommon (in your case, BMVO2/BMVO2X?)

Cheers, Sandro

Very nice, congratulations.