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I want to start a new topic, called "rare uniforms". Please show us your photographs with strange or rare uniforms!

I´d like to start with a Feldwebel of the Infanterieschule Marienberg. Note the shoulder straps of that school and particularly note the cuffs! He wears saxon cuffs and the saxon kind of passing the "Schießschule". (two horizontal buttons to the saxon buttons)!

I´m very proud of this photo, because I haven´t seen this uniform in any book!

One more question, please! Which ribbon does he wear?

Another choice.

42cm Mörser (Gamma). This one was built with parts of the Gamma-Mörser from the first world war. It was placed in Meppen

Armbands that say "----- Batl. 132"; note the reserve crosses on the caps.

Hello!

I assume, that was an "Armierungs-Bataillon". But I´m not sure, if those bataillons wore the reserve cross.

Hello Chip, my old friend!

You´re right! I can´t recognoize them either... I´ve seen one photo in "Die deutsche Infanterie 1871-1914" by Herr/Ngyuen, page 641. There were coat-of-arms upon the additional buttons. No idea, why he doesn´t wear those coat-of-arms.

I know well, why I called this topic "rare uniforms"...

Hello Glenn!

Thanks for your explanation! That´s 100% correct! As far as I know, the shoulder straps were only worn upon the old "Bunter Rock". I haven´t read anything about wearing it upon the field-grey tunic. Am I right?

I checked your photo with the book "The german A7V tank" (Hundleby/Strasheim) This must be the 2nd tank of the Abteilung 12, Paul, ex-British H25 Harlequin, knocked-out on may 27th, 1918

Ah, great photo! Thank you for showing! Unfortunately without any markings...

I want to start a new topic, called "rare uniforms". Please show us your photographs with strange or rare uniforms!

I´d like to start with a Feldwebel of the Infanterieschule Marienberg. Note the shoulder straps of that school and particularly note the cuffs! He wears saxon cuffs and the saxon kind of passing the "Schießschule". (two horizontal buttons to the saxon buttons)!

I´m very proud of this photo, because I haven´t seen this uniform in any book!

I posted this list as an answer in another topic. But I wanted to start a new topic, in hope, that someone of you could complete my list of captured tanks.(Beuteabteilungen) It´s not complete.

Sturm-Panzerkraftwagen-Abteilung 1 (8.1.18 - Hptm. Greiff)

501, Gretchen (later Abt.3, teh again Abt.1, Nov.18 in the army)

502/503 (later Abt.3, in Oct. 1918 scrapped)

505, Baden I (later Abt.3, Nov.18 in the army)

506, Mephisto (later Abt.3, captured by australianbs, today in Queensland)

507, Cyklop (later Abt.3, Nov.18 in the army)

526 (exploited)

527, Lotti, lost near Reims, 1922 scrapped)

541 (Nov.18 in the army)

560, Alter Fritz (11.10.18 bursted)

562, Herkules (later Abt.2, captured by english soldiers, scrapped)

Sturm-Panzerkraftwagen-Abteilung 2 (8.1.18 - Hptm. Steinhardt)

504/544, Schnuck (captured by english soldiers, 1919 scrapped)

525, Siegfried (Nov.18 in the army)

528, Hagen (captured by english soldiers, 1919 scrapped)

529, Nixe II (captured by americans, 1942 scrapped)

542, Elfriede (captured by french soldiers, 1919 scrapped)

543, Hagen, Adalbert, König Wilhelm (later Abt.3, Nov.18 in the army)

561, Nixe (exploited)

563, Wodan (Nov.18 in the army)

Sturm-Panzerkraftwagen-Abteilung 3 (26.2.18 - Hptm. Uihlein)

540, Heiland (later Abt.1, Nov.18in the army)

564 (Nov.18 in the army)

Abteilung 4 (Reserve)

Beuteabt.11 (8.3.18 - Hptm. Koch)

Mk IV (Käthe)

Mk IV (Lissy) 105 - maybe at Abtl. 12

Mk IV (Hedda)

Mk IV (Sonja)

Beuteabt.12 (13.3.18 - Hptm. v. Frankenberg)

Mk IV (Peter)

Mk IV (Paul) - Ex-britisch H25 Harlequin

MK IV (Hanni) 153

Mk IV (Ännchen) 107

Beuteabt.13 (16.4.18 - Oltn. Wilhelm)

Mk IV (Bob) 210

Mk IV (Max) 201

Mk IV (Kathi) 104

Mk IV (Marianne) 112

Mk IV (Schnucki, later named in Kerlchen) 103 Ex-britisch Ace of Spades

Mk IV (Moritz) 206

Mk IV (Bertha) 114

Mk IV (Wolf) 209

Beuteabt.14 (7.5.18 - Hptm. Negerborn)

Mk IV (Liesel)

Mk IV (Trude)

Mk IV (Lotte) 110 Ex-britisch F30 Flaming fire

Mk IV (Heinz) 207

Mk IV (Fritz)

Mk IV (Dora) 101

Beuteabt.15 (26.8.18 )

Beuteabt.16 (Oktober 18 )

english tánks with names

C14 (Culloden II)

F13 (Falcon II)

F41 (Fray Bentos) __________________

Nice pictures. Here I have a list of german A7V´s and captured allied tanks. The list of the captured tanks is NOT complete. If anyone can complete it, you´re welcome!

Sturm-Panzerkraftwagen-Abteilung 1 (8.1.18 - Hptm. Greiff)

501, Gretchen (später Abt.3, dann wieder Abt.1, Nov.18 bei der Truppe)

502/503 (später Abt.3, im Okt. 1918 aufgegeben und verschrottet)

505, Baden I (später Abt.3, Nov.18 bei der Truppe)

506, Mephisto (später Abt.3, austr. Beute, heute Queensland)

507, Cyklop (später Abt.3, Nov.18 bei der Truppe)

526 (ausgeschlachtet)

527, Lotti, bei Reims verloren, 1922 verschrottet)

541 (Nov.18 bei der Truppe)

560, Alter Fritz (11.10.18 gesprengt)

562, Herkules (später Abt.2, engl. Beute, verschrottet)

Sturm-Panzerkraftwagen-Abteilung 2 (8.1.18 - Hptm. Steinhardt)

504/544, Schnuck (engl. Beute, 1919 verschrottet)

525, Siegfried (Nov.18 bei der Truppe)

528, Hagen (engl. Beute, 1919 verschrottet)

529, Nixe II (amerik. Beute, 1942 verschrottet)

542, Elfriede (franz. Beute, 1919 verschrottet)

543, Hagen, Adalbert, König Wilhelm (später Abt.3, Nov.18 bei der Truppe)

561, Nixe (ausgeschlachtet)

563, Wodan (Nov.18 bei der Truppe)

Sturm-Panzerkraftwagen-Abteilung 3 (26.2.18 - Hptm. Uihlein)

540, Heiland (später Abt.1, Nov.18 bei der Truppe)

564 (Nov.18 bei der Truppe)

Abteilung 4 (Reserve)

Beuteabt.11 (8.3.18 - Hptm. Koch)

Mk IV (Käthe)

Mk IV (Lissy) 105 - kann auch bei 12 gewesen sein

Mk IV (Hedda)

Mk IV (Sonja)

Beuteabt.12 (13.3.18 - Hptm. v. Frankenberg)

Mk IV (Peter)

Mk IV (Paul) - Ex-britisch H25 Harlequin

MK IV (Hanni) 153

Mk IV (Ännchen) 107

Beuteabt.13 (16.4.18 - Oltn. Wilhelm)

Mk IV (Bob) 210

Mk IV (Max) 201

Mk IV (Kathi) 104

Mk IV (Marianne) 112

Mk IV (Schnucki, später umbenant in Kerlchen) 103 Ex-britisch Ace of Spades

Mk IV (Moritz) 206

Mk IV (Bertha) 114

Mk IV (Wolf) 209

Beuteabt.14 (7.5.18 - Hptm. Negerborn)

Mk IV (Liesel)

Mk IV (Trude)

Mk IV (Lotte) 110 Ex-britisch F30 Flaming fire

Mk IV (Heinz) 207

Mk IV (Fritz)

Mk IV (Dora) 101

Beuteabt.15 (26.8.18 )

Beuteabt.16 (Oktober 18 )

Beutepanzer Mk IV mit engl. Bezeichnung

C14 (Culloden II)

F13 (Falcon II)

F41 (Fray Bentos) __________________

Maybe it could be a french mortar, 279mm, M14. This was was built for Russia. In 1939 France had stil 135 guns. Maybe some of them were sent to Russia in wwI?

I copied this picture from Franz Kosar´s book "Artillerie im 20. Jahrhundert"

OK, I am anxious for the photos! But because of my job I only can help at the weekend! Let´s watch the CDVs!

Of course you can! That´s what the forum is for...

Uniforms and history of formations are my special interests (imperial army)

But I think it would be better to open a new topic, because this one is for the IR 130.

Hello Freiwilliger!

That´s easy. The IR130 had red shoulder straps with yellow numbers, like on your photo. That have changed in 1897. So your photo was taken before 1897

Another idea...

In the regimental history are officers listed, who were reserve officers in that regiment including their Bezirkskommandos.

Beuel is a part of Bonn. There was only one Reserve-Oficer with the rank Leutnant from the Bezirkskommando Bonn.

Leutnant Jünger

In 1914 he was in the 5th Batterie of the II.Abteilung. He died 30.8.14 near Mézières. But his first name was Karl...

But our friend here, must not be a reserve-officer

By the way. The card must be written in 1914.

The fieldpost-number of the 13.Res.Div. was 997. I don´t read that here, so it must be the date. Maybe 9.10.?

In 1914 the stamps didn´t have a year, because one thought, the war would be over for xmas.

I checked the regimental history again.

Here are the officers with the german letter "ü" in their names:

Müller, Jünger, Hüchtebrock, Krüger, Lütkefels, Kühlwetter, Hüger, Hülsenbeck, Küsters, Florschütz, Hüster.

I don´t assume, that fits with the adress...

The stamp of the photo-studio was marked with "Wesel", that was the garisson of the 43rd.

Strange, strange...

By now, I don´t think, he was "Rühl". Dr.Rühl was perhaps a neighbour?

I also read "Fred", so, how you wrote, it could be Alfred, Manfred.

I think, this problem can only be solved with a list of the owners of the "Rettungsmedaille", isn´t it?

I´m not a computer specialist, but I try my best...

Here it is

:rolleyes:

But there´s one question left. If he was attached to the FAR61, why couldn´t I find him in the regimental history? There is every officer listed, served in that regiemnt and those officers, who were attached to other regiments during the mobilisation. Our friend stood in France and the photo shows a 43. Why wasn´t he listed?

Ah, all right.... I´m sorry about my late response, but I was off in good old France with my lorry. That´s why I only can use this forum at the weekend. Your knowledge is phantastic.

I have fou d Lt. Rühl i the Rangliste too. He was listed in the FAR61, how you wrote. But I ha´ven´t found something, that he was in the FAR43. Beside him in brackets stands: Naumburg a.S. That is in Thüringen. The regimental history of the FAR43 doesn´t show an officer named Rühl...

Maybe this one is another officer, who had a love-affair to Mrs.Rühl?:whistle:

Hello Naxos

Thank you very much for the infos!!!! That was a brilliant work!!!!!!!!!! I´ll hve a look in the phonebook, maybe there is a Rühl in that street!

I wonder, how americans, or in this case, canadians, do have so much information about the german army. Your help was like xmas and eastern at one day... (german phrase...)

Respect!!!!!!!!:beer:

Hi Dan!

Thanx for your response!

I haven´t checked the name around "Rühl", but only in the Rangliste 1914 and the Ehrenrangliste 14/18. There I couldn´t find name like that in the FAR43.

The lady Else doesn´t have to be i n relationschip with him. I thought I could get his name because of the "Preußische Rettungsmedaille".

Here is the backside

Hello gentlemen!

I bought this wonderful postcard. Unfortunately I ´can´t identify him. Maybe he was a superior of my grandfather, who used to serve in that regiment in 17/18.

Maybe one can identify him by the medal he wears? Which one is it? I think, it´s the "Preußische Rettungsmedaille", isn´t it?

The stamp doesn´t show the number of the Feldpostexpedition, but the date. So we don´t see a year, it must be a stamp from 1914, because at that time, the end of war was expected at the end of 1914...

But the most important thing for me, is to ID this lieutenant.

Thank you very much in advance!

Freiwillige,

You are right abouzt the length of the stripes. I said, your picture is probably not military. I just wanted to show, that there were stripes upon the upper-sleeves in officer-branches. I think the three stripes are an equivalent rang to the military ranks.

Sorry, I can´t say anything about the "Z". It was only a guess. But "Oldlincolnian" said something logical to that. If you´ll get further informations, please let us know!