Bob

http://www.president.mn/show_module.php?in...p;dayinfoid=313

Guy recently got awarded an SB

HERO OF THE MONGOLIAN PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC

T1 only 6 awarded

T2 41 awarded

14 posthumous titles awarded, they were NOT accompanied with the Gold Star.

Pix from Yuri Yashnev's site

Apparently 1-2 came out on the market during the "opening of the bank vault" period last year. Before then, I've been informed that there was one on the market in Mongolia about 3 years ago with an asking price of USD 2000. Wish I'd been around then!

Cool - are there also cloth ribbons?

high level overview of some of the mongolian items

This guys won quite a few awards... I'm sure he needs no introduction.

But what is the one award in his Mongolian group at bottom right hand corner (on top are 3 SB's and to the left of it is a Khalkin Gol badge)?

Have sent out request for info to one of the leading experts... but perhaps somebody here can already help? E.g. somebody with Russian translation knowledge?

Will be posting some pics interesting for Mongolian award fans. Will include a new "Order" (at least, the description under the award group mentioned in cyrillic that it was an order) not depicted in Dr B's book.

Posts probably late tomorrow... just returned from vacation and need some sleep before I dive into work and then the various digital pics I took.

I guess lack of numbering and thus lack of researchability is a main factor in the unpopularity... oh well, it's hard enough as it is to get good albanian items:)

I recall somebody on either this forum or soviet-awards.com had a Soviet hero star awarded to a Mongolian in his possession.

Here's a nice cloth one

Order of Sukhbaatar; Order of the Red Banner of Combat Valor; Order of Combat Valor; Order of the Polar Star

Medal of Combat; Medal of Khalkhin Gol; "We Won" Medal; Medal for 40th Anniv. of MPR;

Medal for 50th Anniv. of the Revolution; Medal for 30th Anniv. of Victory over Japan; Medal for 40th Anniv. of Khalkhin Gol Victory;

Medal for 40th Anniv. of Khalkhin Gol Victory (2X); Medal for 50th Anniv. of the Armed Forces; Medal for 60th Anniv. of the Armed Forces; Soviet Medal for Victory over Japan.

L24 - 50 years of the geology

no mintmarks etc. - completely flat reverse

L16 - ministry of energy and mining

relief reverse and similar mark as on L11

L20 - the outstanding worker of the geology

Again, some kind of mark on reverse near the pinback.

Here we have L21 - 40 years of geology

no mark, but relief on reverse

L03 (The outstanding miner) and L11 (The labor champion - The ministry of energy and mining).

Note, again nothing special on reverse except for the mint (?) mark on reverse of L11.

L28 - 25 years of the Erdenet Copper mine. I've added also the regional badge for Erdenet which reflects the mining activities there.

Nothing special on the reverse, however notice the silver mark on L28. Does it give a hint as to where it was made?

A very nice (and high!) Albanian award.

Difficult to determine sometimes... even 3rd class (?) appear to have some gilt.

When I received this one I was surprised to see it's relatively small unlike the tendency to make these Albanian awards rather massive.

L 14 -- The Outstanding Worker of the Egergy Sector

I have quite a few of the mining/energy ones - one of my focus areas. Will post later.

Notice on the L14 the mintmark (?) on the ring!

344 - 16.3gr

393 - 14.7gr

With these weights, I think we're on a wild goose chase for these very early awards... just too much chance of slight variations (e.g. manufacturing or shortening of the screw).

sorry - bigger pic

Anybody that can quench my curiosity as to what awards Raul has?

Great piece. Curious about the box - leather? wood?

AWARD NUMBER DATE TYPE

Distinguished Co-Worker of the State Security Service 163 17/07/1944 D03a

Hero of Labour Gold Soyombo 1 1956

Hero of Labour Gold Soyombo 52 28/11/1962

Hero of Labour Gold Soyombo 250 1981

Honorious Medal of Labour 9,393 13/11/1956

Honorious Medal of Labour 10,328 30/08/1956 Uigur - Var 2 - separately. soldered loop, screwback, no ?No? on the reverse

Honorious Medal of Labour 10,660 17/10/1951 Uigur - Var 2 - separately. soldered loop, screwback, no ?No? on the reverse

Honorious Medal of Labour 11,032 06/11/1956

Honorious Medal of Labour 16,235 26/06/1964 Uigur - Var 3 - screwback, loop part of medal, hand-engraved #

Honorious Medal of Labour 16,573 15/07/1965 Uigiur - Var 3 - screwback, loop part of medal, hand-engraved #

Honorious Medal of Labour 17,040 07/07/1966

Honorious Medal of Labour 23,159 04/08/1976

Honorious Medal of Labour 24,082 14/07/1960 Cyrillic - Var 2 - loop part of medal, pinback, rotating-tool engraved #

Medal We Won 9,678 09/07/1946 A41

Medal 25 Years of the MPR 13,958 30/07/1946 A42

Medal 40 Years of the MPR 15,955 15/09/1961

Medal for Meritorious Service in Battle 854 26/09/1936 Var 1 - early suspension, seprately soldered loop, screwback, reverse has ?No?

Medal for Meritorious Service in Battle 1,288 16/09/1937 Cloth ribbon, soldered on ring NO in front of number

Medal for Meritorious Service in Battle 3,813 08/07/1937 Cloth ribbon, soldered on ring

Medal for Meritorious Service in Battle 4,521 11/09/1953 Var 2 - early suspension, sep. sold. loop, screwback, no ?No? on the reverse

Medal for Meritorious Service in Battle 5,228 24/07/1954

Medal for the Victory over Japan 3,443 06/07/1946 Thick

Medal for Unselfishness 1,046 1990 Type 2, Var 1 - numbered / silver

Medal of Friendship 1,761 12/11/1968

Medal of Friendship 4,086 1971

Order for Meritorious Service in Battle 1,049 01/10/1959 ?

Order for Meritorious Service in Battle 1,552 29/09/1964 Screwback; 2 rivets

Order for Meritorious Service in Battle 2,146 00/06/1969 ?

Order for Meritorious Service in Battle 2,695 1972 ?

Order for Meritorious Service in Battle 2,777 1971 ?

Order for Meritorious Service in Battle 4,836 15/07/1985

Order for Meritorious Service in Battle 5,138 03/04/1986 Var 2 - screwback, dimple on reverse, 2 rivets

Order for Meritorious Service in Battle 5,685 27/03/1987 ?

Order for Meritorious Service in Battle 6,515 04/07/1991 ?

Order for Meritorious Service in Battle 6,854 29/08/1995 Var 1 - 1970 - 2004, pinback

Order for Meritorious Service in Battle 6,885 28/08/1995

Order for Meritorious Service in Battle 7,388 1995 1970 type

Order for Meritorious Service in Battle 8,068 09/08/1999

Order for Meritorious Service in Battle 8,126 09/08/1999 ?

Order of Combat Red Banner 5,348 09/08/1999 Var 2 - 2 rivets, serial at 5 o?clock, 1970 - 2004

Order of Mother Heroine - 1st class 5,396 16/02/1965

Order of Mother Heroine - 1st class 8,128 01/03/1967

Order of Mother Heroine - 1st class 11,608 13/02/1970

Order of Mother Heroine - 1st class 16,062 21/02/1972 Type 1.2

Order of Mother Heroine - 1st class 21,460 25/01/1975

Order of Mother Heroine - 1st class 24,179 20/02/1976

Order of Mother Heroine - 1st class 31,252 22/02/1978

Order of Mother Heroine - 1st class 33,062 17/02/1979

Order of Mother Heroine - 1st class 34,361 23/02/1980

Order of Mother Heroine - 1st class 43,883 00/03/1984

Order of Mother Heroine - 1st class 45,130 25/02/1981

Order of Mother Heroine - 2nd class 543 29/05/1958

Order of Mother Heroine - 2nd class 9,195 25/06/1958

Order of Mother Heroine - 2nd class 13,892 10/10/1958

Order of Mother Heroine - 2nd class 15,709 10/11/1958 Var 1 - screwback, hand-engraved

Order of Mother Heroine - 2nd class 23,451 25/02/1960

Order of Mother Heroine - 2nd class 25,633 02/03/1961

Order of Mother Heroine - 2nd class 29,451 25/02/1962

Order of Mother Heroine - 2nd class 36,905 11/02/1964 Type 1.1

Order of Mother Heroine - 2nd class 39,895 04/03/1964

Order of Mother Heroine - 2nd class 61,823 08/02/1969

Order of Mother Heroine - 2nd class 77,748 17/02/1972

Order of Mother Heroine - 2nd class 77,962 17/02/1972

Order of Mother Heroine - 2nd class 84,187 22/02/1973

Order of Mother Heroine - 2nd class 116,403 00/00/1978

Order of Mother Heroine - 2nd class 120,901 27/02/1980

Order of Mother Heroine - 2nd class 130,167 29641 Type 1.2 (Screwback, Mongolian-made)

Order of Mother Heroine - 2nd class 145,118 18/08/1985 Type 1.2

Order of Mother Heroine - 2nd class 145,718 1985

Order of Mother Heroine - 2nd class 187,862 22/05/1995

Order of Mother Heroine - 2nd class 191,632 00/5/1997

Order of Polar Star 88 06/07/1936 T3V1 - 3 rivets, serial at 7-8 clock Screwback; Cyrillic

Order of Polar Star 1,162 17/10/1951

Order of Polar Star 1,225 6/09/1944 Uigur - Screwback; МОНЕТНЫЙ ДВОР mintmark; Uighur; SN at ?

Order of Polar Star 1,562 08/07/1937 Var 2 - 1940-1941, Uighur script, screwback, ?монетый двор?

Order of Polar Star 1,956 29/11/1955

Order of Polar Star 2,265 3/11/1945 Uigur - Screwback; МОНЕТНЫЙ ДВОР mintmark; Uighur; SN at ?

Order of Polar Star 2,506 30/12/1956 Screwback; Cyrillic

Order of Polar Star 2,705 08/12/1948

Order of Polar Star 2,946 08/07/1950 Screwback; Cyrillic

Order of Polar Star 3,079 16/01/1957 Screwback; Cyrillic

Order of Polar Star 3,301 1956 1941 type, screwback, slightly concave

Order of Polar Star 3,553 08/07/1937

Order of Polar Star 3,917 30/12/1956 Screwback; Cyrillic

Order of Polar Star 4,832 06/11/1956

Order of Polar Star 4,948 08/12/1948

Order of Polar Star 6,133 16/02/1956 Screwback; Cyrillic

Order of Polar Star 6,453 10/11/1956

Order of Polar Star 8,143 15/11/1958 Var 2 - 1941-1970, cyrillic script, flatback, number under screwpost

Order of Polar Star 9,013 14/12/1957 Screwback; Cyrillic

Order of Polar Star 9,138 14/07/1960 Screwback; Cyrillic

Order of Polar Star 10,358 25/08/1961 Var 3 - 1941-1970, cyrillic script, flatback, number at 6 o?clock

Order of Polar Star 11,611 00/03/1966 Screwback; Cyrillic

Order of Polar Star 13,376 01/12/1969 Screwback; Cyrillic

Order of Polar Star 14,236 03/07/1971 Screwback; Cyrillic

Order of Polar Star 14,292 03/06/1971 Var 3 - 1941-1970, cyrillic script, flatback, number at 6 o?clock

Order of Polar Star 14,718 12/03/1973 Screwback; Cyrillic

Order of Polar Star 15,860 03/07/1971 Type 4 (Pinback)

Order of Polar Star 19,735 01/12/1979 Type 4 (Pinback)

Order of Polar Star 25,483 03/04/1980 Type 4 (Pinback)

Order of Polar Star 27,017 03/07/1991 Type 4 (Pinback)

Order of Polar Star 28,321 18/04/1995 Type 4 (Pinback)

Order of Polar Star 29,893 6-xx-2000 Var 1 - 1970 - 2003, Cyrillic script, pinback, silver

Order of Polar Star 31,529 21/11/2001 Type 4 (Pinback)

Order of Polar Star 185/1804 1936 Type 1 (Screwback; МОНДВОР mintmark; long oval design)

Order of Suche Baatar 1 1941

Order of Suche Baatar 24 1946

Order of Suche Baatar 31 1949

Order of Suche Baatar 158 1957 Screwback

Order of Suche Baatar 158 24/10/1957

Order of Suche Baatar 166 29/05/1957

Order of Suche Baatar 340 1961

Order of Suche Baatar 341 1961

Order of Suche Baatar 342 1961

Order of Suche Baatar 343 1961

Order of Suche Baatar 344 1961

Order of Suche Baatar 423 1962 Screwback

Order of Suche Baatar 423 28/11/1962

Order of Suche Baatar 470 13/12/1963

Order of Suche Baatar 541 1966

Order of Suche Baatar 542 1966

Order of Suche Baatar 558 1966

Order of Suche Baatar 586 1968

Order of Suche Baatar 588 1968

Order of Suche Baatar 589 1968

Order of Suche Baatar 591 1968

Order of Suche Baatar 612 10/11/1968

Order of Suche Baatar 642 12/08/1969

Order of Suche Baatar 692 1969

Order of Suche Baatar 803 05/07/1971

Order of Suche Baatar 919 1971

Order of Suche Baatar 922 1971

Order of Suche Baatar 923 1971

Order of Suche Baatar 924 1971

Order of Suche Baatar 925 1971

Order of Suche Baatar 927 1971

Order of Suche Baatar 928 1971

Order of Suche Baatar 931 1971

Order of Suche Baatar 932 1971

Order of Suche Baatar 933 1971

Order of Suche Baatar 937 1971

Order of Suche Baatar 989 1973

Order of Suche Baatar 1,123 1975

Order of Suche Baatar 1,255 14/12/1975

Order of Suche Baatar 1,335 1978

Order of Suche Baatar 1,404 22/10/1980

Order of Suche Baatar 1,462 08/06/1981

Order of Suche Baatar 1,463 1981

Order of Suche Baatar 1,465 1981

Order of Suche Baatar 1,491 09/07/1981

Order of Suche Baatar 1,530 1981

Order of Suche Baatar 1,532 1981

Order of Suche Baatar 1,548 1981

Order of Suche Baatar 1,562 1981

Order of Suche Baatar 1,715 1986

Order of the Red Banner of Labour 621 17/11/1951 Typ 1 screwback

Order of the Red Banner of Labour 1,039 16/02/1956 Typ 1 screwback

Order of the Red Banner of Labour 2,329 22/10/1960

Order of the Red Banner of Labour 2,845 01/02/1960

Order of the Red Banner of Labour 3,744 24/11/1973 Var 1 - 1945 - 1970, screwback

Order of the Red Banner of Labour 3,809 28/04/1980

Order of the Red Banner of Labour 4,835 22/12/1978

Order of the Red Banner of Labour 5,826 00/00/1987 Typ 2 pinback

Order of the Red Banner of Labour 6,238 15/04/1993 Typ 2 pinback

Title of Merit 607 26/06/1981 Type 2.1 (numbered); Low = 0008, High = 789

Virgin Lands 1,187 24/10/1979 enamelled

Virgin Lands 1,300 1979 enamelled

Virgin Lands 3,074 16/12/1982 painted

Thanks for the info Bob, the more info the better!!

Just a quick question about two of the badges you mentioned.

Where are the serial numbers on badges #534 and #791 located? are they at the 7 or at the 10 o'clock position?

Thanks.

JC

Both at 7

Let me add some weight to this discussion

- flatback nr 1800 = 15.2gr

- non-flat, dark reverse nr 534 = 15.2gr

- non-flat, dark reverse nr 791 = 16.0gr

- non-flat, silvery reverse nr 3283 = 16.4gr

- non-flat, silvery reverse nr 3382 = 14.7gr

Note: I can highly recommend a nice little Tanita scale (model 1479V) I purchased via eBay recently. Small, weighs up to 120gr with 0.1gr precision.

Have fun herding your flock!