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  1. I recently acquired an original soviet as well as an original mongolian border plate. would love to add a DDR one to it - where to find a true original?
  2. Two partisan badges just in - one unnumbered and one nr 25 Awfully quiet here and running out of things to post!
  3. I should add, Gongor was awarded a Soviet Order of October revolution at the celebration of 50 years of Mongolian People's Army anniversary. It seems like the OoO were numbered 294-309 (based on various sources) and based on some triangulation of different data points, Colonel Gongor Shagdar was awarded nr 304.
  4. Mongolia, Army, Modern Mongolia, Economics. Mongolia Army: History and Modernity (nemelianov.ru) Interesting reference here to Sorkin being a part of the first group of 12 Soviet military advisors being sent to Mongolia (June 1923).
  5. ‘Khalkhyn Gol Battle lasted 4 years, not 4 months’ (theubposts.com) Interesting discussion on the starting date / length of the Khalkhin Gol Battle with a reference to Gongor. "In my case, I agree with historians and researchers who claim that the battle began in 1989. I think this is more accurate because the Japanese and Manchurian aggressions at Mongolian borders between 1935 and 1939 weren’t just small-scale armed conflicts or border attacks. Considering that relatively large military forces attacked the border repeatedly, the battle had already begun by January 1935. During this period, more than 1,000 Japanese and Manchurian soldiers fought at the border with similar number of tanks and aircrafts. We can’t forget that national heroes such as Sh.Gongor and D.Demberel were recognized amid the numerous battles of bloodshed. This is proof that an undeclared war had set off in Khalkhgol soum."
  6. "Gongor Shagdaryn (1912-1992). Born in Bayankhutag county of Khentii province. Bestowed the title of Hero of MPR when serving as the Commander of the Border Guard checkpoint at a place named “Bulan Ders”. (Hero Title Decree #4, 29 January 1936). Comrade Gongor finished a special course for commanders of tank squads in Bayantumen town in May 1936. Sergeant Gongor led a border patrol consisting of two other border guards at the end of January 1936 around a place called “Bulan Ders”. On a snow stormy evening, the patrol spotted 10 Japanese scouts crossing the border. Comrade Gongor dispatched one of his comrades back to unit camp to call for reinforcements. During the shooting from both sides, the horses of the border guards took off. Sergeant Gongor ordered another comrade to search and find the horses. In order to confuse the enemies, Gongor used his and his comrades’ sheepskin coats as dummies of border guards. Taking advantage of poor visibility due to snowstorm and darkness, Gongor attacked the enemies from behind. He used his advantageous position to eliminate most of the enemies and forced the rest to retreat. Comrade Gongor served for the Mongolian Armed Forces until May 1946. He started his military career as a private and completed as the Commander of a military unit. Gongor was one of the founders of the Mongolian Hunters’ Society. He also held the title of the Best National Archer of the Mongolian People’s Republic. He published his memoirs “In remote Tamsagbulag” in 1984. Gongor was awarded many orders and medals." Page #7, Book “Hall of Fame and Feats”
  7. At the bottom of the following thread is a picture of a very rare brass ribbon for a Hero of Mongolia gold star Hero and labour Hero of the Mongolian People's republic - Page 11 - People's Republic Mongolia - Gentleman's Military Interest Club (gmic.co.uk) Through good fortune an Order of October Revolution (nr 304) also came with that ribbon and research has confirmed it was awarded to Research has confirmed it was awarded to Gongor Shagdar - the first Hero of MPR (29th January, 1936), awarded for fighting back against the Japanese during an armed clash in 1936. Therefore also close to certain that the brass ribbon is also for Gongor Shagdar. Attached a picture of the OOR. More pics of Gongor Shagdar on the thread linked above.
  8. Posting some additional pics: 1. A photograph of Gongor Shagdar where he is wearing his Hero Star + Khalkhin Gol badge + 20 years anniversary badge + brass ribbons. The photograph is probably taken 1959 or 1960. He is wearing his 1940s uniform with the Brigade Commander insignia. 2. Memoirs of Gongor “In remote Tamsagbulag”. The paperback book was published in 1984. It describes his story starting his military service in eastern Mongolia in 1934. And finishes 1936 after he becomes the hero. The book has nice b&w photos of him. 3. Small MPR hero series booklet on Gongor. Describes his feats and also has some interesting information. For example Gongor was awarded a rank of Brigade Commander in 1941 after his unit was selected as the best unit during the 20th anniversary of People’s revolution army wide inspections. Also he was the Best National Archer title holder and renowned hunter. Researched Order of October Revolution #304 - awarded to first Hero of Mongolia - Russia: Soviet Orders, Medals & Decorations - Gentleman's Military Interest Club (gmic.co.uk) On the Soviet forum, I've posted pics of the Order of October Revolution which now arrived in my hands.
  9. Cross-reference here: OoR in this Ukaz likely had a serial nr range of 294-309 Hero and labour Hero of the Mongolian People's republic - Page 11 - People's Republic Mongolia - Gentleman's Military Interest Club (gmic.co.uk)
  10. Interesting development. Attached link to a thread on General Suurin Baldan confirms that Gongor (to whom above brass Hero ribbon apparently belonged) was also awarded a Soviet Order of October revolution. The list shown in the link provides the names of Mongolians who received awards at the celebration of 50 years of Mongolian People's Army anniversary. It seems like the OoO were numbered 294-309 (based on various sources) and based on some triangulation of different data pints, Colonel Gongor Shagdar was awarded nr 304. Now, it just so happens that OoO nr 304 was in the hands of the same person who had acquired above brass ribbon many, many years ago and he insisted that the ribbon and the OoR had both belonged to Gongor. While not direct evidence, the research confirms this to be extremely likely. Now, just to get my hands on the OoR... General Suurin Baldan - Page 3 - People's Republic Mongolia - Gentleman's Military Interest Club (gmic.co.uk)
  11. No ribbon for the Hero of Labor as the award itself had to be worn.
  12. NumisBids: Katz Coins Notes & Supplies Corp. E-Auction 21, Lot 1636 : Mongolia The Order of Hero Markers marked 'VM' for Vincent Mayer of... Deal of the century (assuming the item is real), and unfortunately missed it. Quite a few Mongolian Hero Stars came up for auction during the past 2 years. Amazing how the auction house messed up the description on Hero Star nr 40.
  13. I admire how well organized / documented your collection is!
  14. An interesting bit of 'news' on this badge for the 15 anniversary of the MPR (1936). First, as noted elsewhere: - Text on the front: "15th anniversary honour medal." - Text on the back: "Mongolian Government. 26th year - 7th month" (i.e. referring to the independence of Mongolia from China in 1911) Turns out the badge shown above is a (very common) Type 2: Soviet made with Mondvor screw back plate. Yes, that implies there is also a Type 1... also manufactured in 1936 but only for a VERY brief period of time and likely only awarded in limited quantities during July of that year before being replaced by the Soviet mint made one. This Type 1 badge was Mongolian manufactured and thus more 'rough' in appearance and painted with sand paint (used for painting the interior decorations of monasteries) and it also has some gold plating on the edges of the obverse. The reverse has a hand-written inscription that has the same text and date as the Soviet version. It has a pinback attachment. Apparently the Type 1 badge was made by Buddhist monks who also produced Buddhist god statues, accessories, etc. back in 1936. The badge was replaced as the gap vs. the attractiveness of the Soviet made ones was just too big. Replaced often meant withdrawn / destroyed and in fact many of the awardees were purged during the late 1930's under Choibalsan. Against that context, I will attach several pictures 1) Purged and executed Mongolian statesman Minister for Justice Comrade Dendev (wearing a Type 1 next to his Red Banner order) 2) Two pictures of partisan Dashzeveg wearing the same Mongolian version next to his orders plus a picture of him wearing a replaced Soviet version instead. Note, obviously I am just the 'channel' through which above is communicated (following me acquiring the badge) but am happy to share this and breath some life in the Mongolian section here. I am convinced that there are still more things to discover in Mongolian collecting. Some of the things may even be right in front of us by studies photographs with a magnifying glass. Others will require more research (which is obviously not easy). In any case, patience is key!
  15. Alright, some free time on my hands. So obviously this is a rare brass ribbon for the Hero of Mongolian People’s Republic. The brass ribbons were issues from 1944-1961. The Hero brass ribbon (35x12mm) is slightly longer than the regular brass ribbons (29x12mm) which in itself are also not so regular as increasingly difficult to find. Based on the known nr of Hero stars awarded pre conversion to cloth ribbons, perhaps max. 10 people received a brass ribbon. There were no cloth ribbons for the Hero Star in fact as the expectation was that the Hero Star itself would be worn. Supposedly the brass ribbon shown above belonged to Gongor Shagdar - the first Hero of MPR (29th January, 1936), awarded for fighting back against the Japanese during an armed clash in 1936. My guess is that he was originally awarded a Badge of the Hero and later (1941) this was converted to a Hero Star. More info on this: Who is the first recipient of the Hero of Mongolia medal? – Mongolia FAQ "The first recipient was sergeant Gongor from the Border Guards. On January 28th, 1936 Sergeant Gongor was stationed at the border of Mongolia. He saw 10 Japanese soldiers on horses galloping in his direction. He told one of his soldiers to ride to HQ and inform his superiors, the second soldier to take the horses and hide. As a crack shot he was able to shoot and kill nine of the intruders. On February of the same year, 500 soldiers from the Japanese Kwantung Army in 20 trucks, with forty light machine guns tried to enter the border again. Around hundred Mongolian border guards were able to repel the attacks. This was fully three years before a full scale Khalkhyn Gol War of 1939. For his bravery, Gongor was given the first Hero of MPRP medal. Among the people he was affectionately called Gongor baatar (hero)." From that site also attached a cartoon about Gongor. In Urnukh's blue bible there are some photographs of people wearing a brass Hero ribbon (e.g. Gongor himself on page 22, again on page 26 Gongor but then with the Hero Star and on page 255 Choibalsan is visibly wearing his 2 brass Hero Star ribbons). Here is another pic of Gongor but no brass ribbon: · Photo Gallery of Khalkin Gol Badge Cavaliers - Page 4 - People's Republic Mongolia - Gentleman's Military Interest Club (gmic.co.uk) I will also attach a photograph of Gongor wearing his brass Hero Star ribbon while seated among several 1921 partisans. The photograph seems to indicate a lot of respect by Gongor as he's listening to the Partisans. Gongor is the second person from the left. To HIS left is somebody with a Hero of Labour + several brass ribbons. In front of Gongor is somebody with a Partisan badge, a Khalkhin Gol badge and several brass ribbons. More veterans with Partisan badges on the right side of the picture. I did write "supposedly" the ribbon belonged to Gongor. There is no documentation of this, however there is some hope in verifying this through some other means which I may be able to share at a later stage.
  16. Glad somebody recognized it! And not surprised it's you! Been rather quiet here and thought this would breath some life back into things. I'm overloaded with work but will try to get some more details posted today or tomorrow. I was keeping my fingers crossed for 10+ years to perhaps still get an SB brass ribbon. Well, that hasn't materialized (yet) but to have this one 'appear' is a very exciting surprise.
  17. I recently received this Tamara plus document and (to my surprise) a bunch of additional documents about the Order of Queen Tamara in general incl scans of 2 additional award documents the writing on these docs is not always easy to decypher but my award document coming with the Tamara appears awarded to (Sergeant?) Herrmann Stelter from Sturmbataillon 10, correct? Also, this document has written in pencil on it “wintershagen bei neustadt” - any idea of what the significance of that could be? upon googling, it refers to "wintershagen bei neustadt in holstein" (northern germany) - why? any insight on the scans of other docs?
  18. Jan - yes, same source Lingqi - I saw that auction as well. My assumption was that the item you posted is authentic (I had underbid on it). Found it to be a rather odd auction (strange grouping of mongolian and non-mongolian items in the same lots). Some nice items (low serial nrs) but my auction funds had been deployed already so winded up underbidding on the few items which sparked my interest.
  19. Posted June 19, 2016 Who was awarded order Sukhbaatar #308? Unfortunately that serial number falls out of my small archive of names of awardees but I can confirm it was most likely awarded early 1960.
  20. Next up, another Khasan group and again to a pilot. Nikolai Petrovich Shvachkov - it comes with the orders book (incl. photo) and includes - early 'mirror' reverse order of Red Banner 5370 - order of Patriotic War 1st class 216832 - order of Red Star 2747830 The orders book also lists the medal for Combat Service, which is missing. Nr 2163108 Awarding of the Red Banner confirmed through the Hasan decree of Oct. 26, 1938, specifically for courage and bravery during defense of Lake Hasan area which does list Shvachkov: "On awarding orders and medals of the USSR to command and control personnel, Red Army men of the Workers 'and Peasants' Army and the Border Guard, family members of command personnel, employees of hospitals and the merchant fleet. FOR THE EXCEPTIONAL PERFORMANCE OF COMBAT MISSIONS, FOR THE VALUE AND COURAGE EXPRESSED DURING THE DEFENSE OF THE KHASAN LAKE AREA TO REWARD: ORDER "RED BANNER": 1310. Junior commander Nikolai Petrovich Shvachkov. Deputy Chairman of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR G. PETROVSKY Secretary of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR A. GORKIN. Moscow Kremlin. October 26, 1938" Here’s his Citation for Patriotic War 1st class: http://podvignaroda.ru/?#id=38671533&tab=navDetailManAward And listing of all his awards, confirming (important!) that the 1938 Red Banner was in fact issued by decree of 10.26.1938. http://podvignaroda.ru/?#id=1108517627&tab=navDetailManCard The research generated the following citations: - confirms an additional later red banner - but does not mention the red star Awarded the Order of the patriotic War 1st Class order of the 10th Air Army of 16.09.1945 Citation 1. Last Name, First Name and Patronymic: Shvachko Nikolai Petrovich 2. Rank: Captain 3. Position, Unit: Squadron Commander, 903rd Long-Range Bomber Aviation Regiment, 128th Aviation Division, 10th Air Army, 2nd Far Eastern Front Recommended for: the Order of the Red Banner 4. Year of Birth: 1912 5. Nationality: Ukrainian 6. Party Membership: Member of the All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks since 1942 7. Participation in the Civil War and in Subsequent Military Actions in Defense of the USSR, and the Patriotic War (where, when): participant of the repulsing actions in the area of Lake Hasan in 1938 8. Any wounds or concussions in the Patriotic War: None 9. In the Red Army Since: Since 25 November 1934 10. Conscripted by which District Military Commissariat: Kharkov City Military Commissariat, Kharkov Oblast 11. Previously Awarded (awarded for which merits and when): awarded: the Order of the Red Banner for participation in the repulsing actions in the area of Lake Hasan in 1938, the Medal for Combat Merits for long service in the Red Army in 1944. 12. Home Address of the Award Recommendee and the Address of His Family : [censored per archive policy] I. Concise, concrete description of the personal military deed or merit During combat actions, Captain Shvachko conducted 14 combat reconnoissance flights on the B-25. Through his work, he provided the division’s command with reconnoissance results. In challenging meteorological conditions, he flew daily over enemy territory and accurately carried out the mission assigned. He deserves to be awarded the Order of the Red Banner. Commander of the 903rd Long-Range Bomber Aviation Regiment Major Shapovalov [signed & stamped] 27 August, 1945 [Page 2] II. Conclusion of Superiors Deserves the government award the Order of the Red Banner Commander of the 128th Aviation Division Lieutenant-Colonel Eryomin [signed & stamped] 30 August, 1944 III. Conclusion of the Army Military Council Deserves to be awarded the government award the Order of the Red Banner Commander of the Kamchatka Defensive District Major-General A. Gnechko [signed & stamped] 3 September, 1945 _____________________________________________________________________________________ SECRET Order to the 10th Air Army, 2nd Far Eastern Front 16 September, 1945 010/n city of Khabarovsk In the name of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR, for exemplary performance of missions from Command on the front of the battle with the Japanese aggressors, and for valor and courage displayed therein, award: With the Order of the Patriotic War 1st Class … 6. Captain SHVACHKO Nikolai Petrovich. b. 1912 Squadron Commander, 903rd Long-Range Bomber Aviation Regiment, 128th Aviation Division … Commander of the 10th Air Army Colonel-General of Aviation Zhigarev [signed & stamped] Chief of Staff of the 10th Air Army Major-General of Aviation Lavrik [signed] The online sources also provide additional pics of a younger and older Shvachkov http://podvignaroda.mil.ru/?#id=38671533&tab=navDetailManAward https://pamyat-naroda.ru/heroes/isp-chelovek_spisok4821290 https://pamyat-naroda.ru/heroes/kld-card_uchet_officer404088 https://pamyat-naroda.ru/heroes/kld-card_uchet_officer9338811/ And here the Shvachkov pics His younger pic shows him wearing a Red Banner and Patriotic War order
  21. To add to the Balduk group, after digging in my emails, from the 1938 Hasan decree: "FOR THE EXCEPTIONAL PERFORMANCE OF COMBAT MISSIONS, FOR THE VALUE AND COURAGE EXPRESSED DURING THE DEFENSE OF THE KHASAN LAKE AREA, AWARD ORDER "RED STAR": 244. Lieutenant Balduk Yakov Artamonovich. Chairman of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR M. KALININ. Secretary of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR A. GORKIN. Moscow Kremlin. October 25, 1938" So that confirms the Mondvor Red Star was for Hasan as per the Lake Hasan awarding, decree of Oct. 25, 1938, and in his orders book the privileges are authorized from Nov. 1, 1938. Also note that at Hasan he was already a Lieutenant. Plus, apparently, he lived long enough to receive jubilee Pat. War 2nd class in 1985 And another pic of Balduk can be found here: Балдук Яков Артамонович / Наш полк / Наш полк. Победа. Одна на всех (inter.ua)
  22. Suddenly 2 groups appeared on the market for veterans of the Battle of Lake Khasan and - showing great lack of discipline on my part - I could not help but jump on to them and get them in my decreasingly focused collection. First up, a small group to Balduk Yakov Artamonovich, a pilot at the battle of Lake Khasan. Consists of an award booklet (including a picture) and 3 red stars: - 4592 (Mondvor red star) - 189104 - 2692863 I am a little bit confused how this is reflected in the research which I will also attach. It makes reference to an Order of the Red Banner while mentioning only one Order of the Red Star. Service Records https://pamyat-naroda.ru/heroes/kld-card_polit305359 https://pamyat-naroda.ru/heroes/kld-card_uchet_officer2489893 https://pamyat-naroda.ru/heroes/kld-card_uchet_officer3158381 Service Record With Portrait (which matches the pic in the booklet) https://pamyat-naroda.ru/heroes/kld-card_uchet_officer3158380 Citation [Order of the Red Star, 1943] Last Name, First Name and Patronymic: Balduk Yakov Artamonovich Military Rank: Major Position, Unit: Squadron Commander, Signals Directorate of the Airborne Forces of the Red Army Recommended for: the Order of the Red Star 1. Year of Birth: 1907 2. Nationality: Ukrainian 3. In the Red Army Since: since 1930 4. Party Membership: Member of the All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks since 1931 5. Participation in Combat (where and when): Participant of the battles in the area of Lake Hasan in 1938 6. Any wounds or concussions: none 7. Previously awarded (for which merits): with the Order of the Red Star in 1938 8. Conscripted by which District Military Commissariat: career officer 9. Home Address (of the recommendee or his family): [censored per archive policy] I. Concise, concrete description of the personal military deed or merit Commanding the signals squadron, Comrade Balduk prepared its flight personnel not only for regular flights in challenging flight conditions, but also for work in supporting communications with airborne forces. In the squadron, there have been no instances of disruptions or mission failures in communications or in transporting commanders of the staff of the Airborne Forces of the Red Army to unit locations. From September 1, 1942 to February 1, 1943, the squadron flew 466 hours – of which 11 were at night – accident-free, completing 905 sorties in its mission. [Page 2] 3,853 paratroopers were dropped. He deserves awarding of the Order of the Red Star. Chief of Aviation for the Airborne Forces of the Red Army Major-General of Aviation Shcherbakov [signed] 9 February, 1943 [Page 3] III. Conclusion of the Military Council of the Airborne Forces of the Red Army Deserves awarding of the Order of the Red Star Commander of Airborne Forces of the Red Army Major-General Glazunov [signed] Member of the Military Council of the Airborne Forces of the Red Army Major-General Gromov [signed] 27 February, 1943 _____________________________________________________________________________________ Decree Of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR On awarding the command, rank-and-file, and volunteer personnel of the Red Army orders and medals. For exemplary performance of mission from Command in the formation and preparation of units of the Airborne Forces, award: … With the Order of the Red Star 2. Major BALDUK Yakov Artamonovich … Chairman of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR M. Kalinin Secretary of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR A. Gorkin Moscow, Kremlin 19.06.1943 _____________________________________________________________________________________ Citation [Order of the Red Banner] 1. Last Name, First Name and Patronymic: Balduk Yakov Artamonovich 2. Rank: Major 3. Position, Unit: Commander-trainee, 955th Assault Aviation Regiment, 305th Pavlograd Red-Banner Assault Aviation Division Recommended for: the Order of the Red Banner 4. Year of Birth: 1907 5. Nationality: Ukrainian 6. Party Membership: Member of the All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks since 1938 7. Participation in the Civil War and in Subsequent Military Actions in Defense of the USSR, and the Patriotic War (where, when): Kalinin Front 1943, 3rd Ukrainian Front from May to July 1944, and 3rd Baltic Front from the month of July 1944 8. Any wounds or concussions in the Patriotic War: None 9. In the Red Army Since: From 1929 10. Conscripted by which District Military Commissariat: Career RKKA 11. Previously Awarded (awarded for which merits and when): with the Order of the Red Star by Decree of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR of 01.11.1938 for participation in battles on Lake Hasan. The Order of the Red Star by Decree of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR of 10.06.1943 for command of a regiment on the Kalinin Front 12. Home Address of the Award Recommendee and the Address of His Family : [censored per archive policy] I. Concise, concrete description of the personal military deed or merit Recommended for a government award for completing 10 successful combat flights. He has participated in the battle with the German occupiers on the 3rd Baltic Front since the month of July 1944. During this period, he completed 10 successful combat flights to strafe enemy troops and equipment on the Ostrov-Pskov axis. As a result of strafing and bombing attacks, he personal destroyed: 2 tanks, 9 vehicles with troops and cargoes, 14 horse-drawn wagons with cargoes, 2 anti-aircraft positions, 5 field guns, 4 bunkers, 6 machine-gun positions, and scattered and partially destroyed up to a platoon of enemy soldiers and officers. As the leader of a group of 6-7 aircraft, he led the group without losses and, with accurate targeting, carried out Command’s missions with excellence. He greatly aided Command with management of the regiment’s combat operations and by his personal example of bravery inspired the flight staff to combat exploits. In battle for the liberation of Ostrov and Pskov he showed himself to be a bold and courageous commander-leader. For excellent performance of mission from Command, he has received 5 letters of thanks. Through his combat deeds, courage, and bravery, he has proven his loyalty to the cause of the Party of Lenin and Stalin and the Socialist Motherland. For courage, bravery, and selflessness, displayed in battle with the German invaders and for skillful management of combat operations, he deserves the government award the Order of the Red Banner. Commander of the 955th Assault Aviation Regiment Guards Major Simonov [signed & stamped] 10.08.1944 [Page 2] Conclusion of Superiors Deserves the government award the Order of the Patriotic War 2nd Class. Commander of the 305th Pavlograd Red-Banner Assault Aviation Division Colonel Polushko [signed & stamped] 15 August, 1944 Award with the Order of the Red Banner Commander of the 14th Air Army Lieutenant-General of Aviation Zhuravlyov 26 August, 1944 Awarded the Order of the Red Banner Order of the 14th Air Army №046-N of 28.08.1944 Captain of the Administrative Service __[illegible signature]__
  23. Aha - it's a small world
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