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  1. I recently acquired an original soviet as well as an original mongolian border plate. would love to add a DDR one to it - where to find a true original?
  2. Two partisan badges just in - one unnumbered and one nr 25 Awfully quiet here and running out of things to post!
  3. I should add, Gongor was awarded a Soviet Order of October revolution at the celebration of 50 years of Mongolian People's Army anniversary. It seems like the OoO were numbered 294-309 (based on various sources) and based on some triangulation of different data points, Colonel Gongor Shagdar was awarded nr 304.
  4. Mongolia, Army, Modern Mongolia, Economics. Mongolia Army: History and Modernity (nemelianov.ru) Interesting reference here to Sorkin being a part of the first group of 12 Soviet military advisors being sent to Mongolia (June 1923).
  5. ‘Khalkhyn Gol Battle lasted 4 years, not 4 months’ (theubposts.com) Interesting discussion on the starting date / length of the Khalkhin Gol Battle with a reference to Gongor. "In my case, I agree with historians and researchers who claim that the battle began in 1989. I think this is more accurate because the Japanese and Manchurian aggressions at Mongolian borders between 1935 and 1939 weren’t just small-scale armed conflicts or border attacks. Considering that relatively large military forces attacked the border repeatedly, the battle had already begun by January 1935. During this period, more than 1,000 Japanese and Manchurian soldiers fought at the border with similar number of tanks and aircrafts. We can’t forget that national heroes such as Sh.Gongor and D.Demberel were recognized amid the numerous battles of bloodshed. This is proof that an undeclared war had set off in Khalkhgol soum."
  6. "Gongor Shagdaryn (1912-1992). Born in Bayankhutag county of Khentii province. Bestowed the title of Hero of MPR when serving as the Commander of the Border Guard checkpoint at a place named “Bulan Ders”. (Hero Title Decree #4, 29 January 1936). Comrade Gongor finished a special course for commanders of tank squads in Bayantumen town in May 1936. Sergeant Gongor led a border patrol consisting of two other border guards at the end of January 1936 around a place called “Bulan Ders”. On a snow stormy evening, the patrol spotted 10 Japanese scouts crossing the border. Comrade Gongor dispatched one of his comrades back to unit camp to call for reinforcements. During the shooting from both sides, the horses of the border guards took off. Sergeant Gongor ordered another comrade to search and find the horses. In order to confuse the enemies, Gongor used his and his comrades’ sheepskin coats as dummies of border guards. Taking advantage of poor visibility due to snowstorm and darkness, Gongor attacked the enemies from behind. He used his advantageous position to eliminate most of the enemies and forced the rest to retreat. Comrade Gongor served for the Mongolian Armed Forces until May 1946. He started his military career as a private and completed as the Commander of a military unit. Gongor was one of the founders of the Mongolian Hunters’ Society. He also held the title of the Best National Archer of the Mongolian People’s Republic. He published his memoirs “In remote Tamsagbulag” in 1984. Gongor was awarded many orders and medals." Page #7, Book “Hall of Fame and Feats”
  7. At the bottom of the following thread is a picture of a very rare brass ribbon for a Hero of Mongolia gold star Hero and labour Hero of the Mongolian People's republic - Page 11 - People's Republic Mongolia - Gentleman's Military Interest Club (gmic.co.uk) Through good fortune an Order of October Revolution (nr 304) also came with that ribbon and research has confirmed it was awarded to Research has confirmed it was awarded to Gongor Shagdar - the first Hero of MPR (29th January, 1936), awarded for fighting back against the Japanese during an armed clash in 1936. Therefore also close to certain that the brass ribbon is also for Gongor Shagdar. Attached a picture of the OOR. More pics of Gongor Shagdar on the thread linked above.
  8. Posting some additional pics: 1. A photograph of Gongor Shagdar where he is wearing his Hero Star + Khalkhin Gol badge + 20 years anniversary badge + brass ribbons. The photograph is probably taken 1959 or 1960. He is wearing his 1940s uniform with the Brigade Commander insignia. 2. Memoirs of Gongor “In remote Tamsagbulag”. The paperback book was published in 1984. It describes his story starting his military service in eastern Mongolia in 1934. And finishes 1936 after he becomes the hero. The book has nice b&w photos of him. 3. Small MPR hero series booklet on Gongor. Describes his feats and also has some interesting information. For example Gongor was awarded a rank of Brigade Commander in 1941 after his unit was selected as the best unit during the 20th anniversary of People’s revolution army wide inspections. Also he was the Best National Archer title holder and renowned hunter. Researched Order of October Revolution #304 - awarded to first Hero of Mongolia - Russia: Soviet Orders, Medals & Decorations - Gentleman's Military Interest Club (gmic.co.uk) On the Soviet forum, I've posted pics of the Order of October Revolution which now arrived in my hands.
  9. Cross-reference here: OoR in this Ukaz likely had a serial nr range of 294-309 Hero and labour Hero of the Mongolian People's republic - Page 11 - People's Republic Mongolia - Gentleman's Military Interest Club (gmic.co.uk)
  10. Interesting development. Attached link to a thread on General Suurin Baldan confirms that Gongor (to whom above brass Hero ribbon apparently belonged) was also awarded a Soviet Order of October revolution. The list shown in the link provides the names of Mongolians who received awards at the celebration of 50 years of Mongolian People's Army anniversary. It seems like the OoO were numbered 294-309 (based on various sources) and based on some triangulation of different data pints, Colonel Gongor Shagdar was awarded nr 304. Now, it just so happens that OoO nr 304 was in the hands of the same person who had acquired above brass ribbon many, many years ago and he insisted that the ribbon and the OoR had both belonged to Gongor. While not direct evidence, the research confirms this to be extremely likely. Now, just to get my hands on the OoR... General Suurin Baldan - Page 3 - People's Republic Mongolia - Gentleman's Military Interest Club (gmic.co.uk)
  11. No ribbon for the Hero of Labor as the award itself had to be worn.
  12. NumisBids: Katz Coins Notes & Supplies Corp. E-Auction 21, Lot 1636 : Mongolia The Order of Hero Markers marked 'VM' for Vincent Mayer of... Deal of the century (assuming the item is real), and unfortunately missed it. Quite a few Mongolian Hero Stars came up for auction during the past 2 years. Amazing how the auction house messed up the description on Hero Star nr 40.
  13. I admire how well organized / documented your collection is!
  14. An interesting bit of 'news' on this badge for the 15 anniversary of the MPR (1936). First, as noted elsewhere: - Text on the front: "15th anniversary honour medal." - Text on the back: "Mongolian Government. 26th year - 7th month" (i.e. referring to the independence of Mongolia from China in 1911) Turns out the badge shown above is a (very common) Type 2: Soviet made with Mondvor screw back plate. Yes, that implies there is also a Type 1... also manufactured in 1936 but only for a VERY brief period of time and likely only awarded in limited quantities during July of that year before being replaced by the Soviet mint made one. This Type 1 badge was Mongolian manufactured and thus more 'rough' in appearance and painted with sand paint (used for painting the interior decorations of monasteries) and it also has some gold plating on the edges of the obverse. The reverse has a hand-written inscription that has the same text and date as the Soviet version. It has a pinback attachment. Apparently the Type 1 badge was made by Buddhist monks who also produced Buddhist god statues, accessories, etc. back in 1936. The badge was replaced as the gap vs. the attractiveness of the Soviet made ones was just too big. Replaced often meant withdrawn / destroyed and in fact many of the awardees were purged during the late 1930's under Choibalsan. Against that context, I will attach several pictures 1) Purged and executed Mongolian statesman Minister for Justice Comrade Dendev (wearing a Type 1 next to his Red Banner order) 2) Two pictures of partisan Dashzeveg wearing the same Mongolian version next to his orders plus a picture of him wearing a replaced Soviet version instead. Note, obviously I am just the 'channel' through which above is communicated (following me acquiring the badge) but am happy to share this and breath some life in the Mongolian section here. I am convinced that there are still more things to discover in Mongolian collecting. Some of the things may even be right in front of us by studies photographs with a magnifying glass. Others will require more research (which is obviously not easy). In any case, patience is key!
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