Bob

It has been covered, additions are always good but suggest to stick to the existing threads for each award so we can consolidate knowledge in easy way.

A voice has reached out to you from beyond Cyberspace.

So Sayeth Rick Research:

"I blame Eric Schena for coming home from my only local show with a handful of Hoxha regime awards. If Eric hadn’t written “The Decorations of Socialist Albania: An introductory Guide” in 2006 this would never have happened."

"Here is his #13 Urdhëri Ylli I Kuq, 1st Class (“gold”), awarded 87 times. Unfortunately the enamel on both lower arms is chipped, but such rarity excuses condition. It is on Eric’s Type 1a suspension. It’s that odd non-tarnishing “gold” alloy—anyone know what the metal actually is?"

Good - the more the merrier:)

I wouldn't assume the award is very rare (how rare? who knows) just because supposedly 87 were issued. Most likely, yours is not an issued one, but who's to say without a document.

badge 2

Through the wonderful world of internet, the Badge of Honorary Chekist (Type 3) found its way into my possession to make the group a little bit more complete!

Oidov was awarded the badge in August 20, 1970, it is number 240. Doesn't contain the original screwplate anymore, but still a lovely piece.

The badge appears (by the known/documented dates) to have been awarded in random order.

Also found its way to me is a Badge of Excellent Border Guard (Aluminum screwback badge with a serial number on the reverse) with a paperback doc awarded to Burentug's son Tugsjargal. The doc is serial numbered 470 but badge is serial numbered 473. Most likely the badges were mishanded during the presentation.

Good to see some activity here again:)

You may want to look through the different threads before starting a new one because most orders/medals already have a dedicated thread. It helps to keep information together in a logical place.

Looking forward to see other pieces in your collection!

Hi to all,

Finally I find a picture with oneof the rarest Socialist period Order: THE ORDER OF LABOR, first design (M.135 inmy book).

Regards,

Artan

Brilliant! Finally confirmation it really exists:)

They have released photographic evidence of his demise.

Don't jump the gun, apparently he's still alive...

http://www.telegraaf.nl/buitenland/9709926/__Lookalike_van_Osama_bin_Laden__.html?p=3,2

And he's chosen a new career: parking attendant in Bogota!

http://twitter.com/#!/ReallyVirtual

Check out this Twitter account for live coverage of the assault while it was happening... it's a small world nowadays

Not entirely the right thread but thought i'd pose the question here: the medal for valor of mongolia (i.e. old medal) of which apparently only one specimen exists (or has been found/photographed to date) - where is that one located?

Thanks

When in UB i had heard the story why Dandar had his Hero title/star revoked (if my memory doesn't fail me, he had shot some Russian soldiers stealing supplies, but because Dandar was so well respected he got away with a relatively light punishment and later got his title/star back - please correct me if wrong).

Does anybody know the reason behind Tsedenbal having his title/star revoked (and reinstated)?

Spent several hours reading through Urnukh Khuuji's book this weekend. What a joy. Especially the little detailed facts which give so much color to the topic of Mongolian orders/medals. Didn't manage to found more info on google, but was interested in reading that Henry Winston, former chairman of the US communist party, was awarded an SB for instance.

Hey Bob!

I am glad you got this rare medal indeed. But the suspension looks like it belongs to 3rd order red star. anyhow it is better than nothing like myself for example

regards

Hey - yes, you're right now that you mention it. Didn't take time to consider the suspension when i got it, was just focus on the medal itself (although the bent paperclip to connect to two should have been a giveaway).

Now if i can just find a cheap type 1 hero on ebay haha

Only seen this medal (variation) in the War Museum in Vlora (great little museum!) and in the collection of an important collector in Tirana, but after years of looking i finally got one myself as well (of all places, found it cheap on eBay!).

Not that spectacular in design or quality, but nice to fill this gap.

http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_04_2011/post-679-0-47984800-1302593047.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_04_2011/post-679-0-44431100-1302593059.jpg

http://www.paretski.com/product/527900/

thoughts?

Touche Jan :cheers:

And then a small group to 1 person with the usual awards AND a booklet for Khalkhin Gol award issued in the 1959

Have seen that last document before, but don't recall seeing it as part of a group yet

Lucky me - 5 missing documents belonging to this group, incl. the medals, arrived in my mail last week. Nothing special, just the usual anniversary medals, but still - nice to see things come together again!

Thumbing through more pictures i took in the aforementioned museum, turns out Sorkin was involved in the so called "Lhumbe affair" in which "311 people were convicted of being counter-revolutionaries and political dissidents and accused of a conspiring to overthrow the communist government with the help and under the instruction of the imperialist government of Japan." Will post pic referring to this later, but some more hints below.

And, from:

http://en.epochtimes.com/news/3-9-22/6877.html

Key text: "The purge of 1933-1934 had been carefully planned by OGPU advisers Chibisov and Grigoriev, and it was OGPU officers Ratuzov, Iliev, Badmayan, and Sorokin who interrogated Lhumbe in the Soviet Union."

Sorkin may not be as friendly as he looks...

"Lot Nr.4096

Order of the Red Banner,

Type 2/2 (per McDaniel/Schmitt), silver, gilt, enamelled, weight 26.3 g, single-line "Minetnyj Dwor", award number 71283, threaded disc attachment. With an expertise by Paul McDaniel as well as an archival letter from the Defense Ministry of the GUS stating that this piece was awarded to the 98th Guard Artillery Regiment. Included is the corresponding flag banderole of ribbed silk with yellow silk tassels with a Moscow maker's tag and 1949 control stamp. Extensive documentation is included. "

Nice souvenir (heavy metal, mongolian made) i picked up in UB, yes... it's SB.

Was also eager to find a Choibalsan buste, but no luck. Did see his huge statue in the city center in front of the university... a surprise!

Card reads "The silver board and molded cattle figure were awarded to the stated honoured herders since 1944".

From a Mongolian forum friend and (recent) book author I met in UB I understand that the early recipients (type 1/2) of the herder badges received the silver "block" with the 2 animals and also a pair of silver (milk) buckets as an additional sign of appreciation. It must be pretty important to be a herder to not just get a badge but also these items (especially during 40's and 50's when I guess Mongolia wasn't very affluent in the post-war years.

Despite there being a small group of "hardcore" lovers of these herder badges, it may be that we have still been underestimating their significance.

Below is a nice piece of silverware which I found in the National History Museum in UB last week. The centerpiece caught my eye, looks familiar doesn't it?

Speaking of SB's, they are running very thin in UB. I only saw one other one (a pinback) for sale.

An item from the National Museum of History in UB

http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/topic/48594-lt-general-jambyn-jamyan/page__gopid__447546

Busy at work, but will gradually add more and more pics as things develop with this group...

Pic of the recipient