Bob

Documented screwback 326 acquired while in UB. I also own 325 so who knows whether research triggers some commonality.

I forgot the pic...

What's even better, I got to meet up with a fellow forum member in UB who is also the author of a great recent book on Mongolian awards. More on that later, as he was able to show me some real treasures!, but he also found another photo of Sorkin in his own collection.

Caption below photograph in book:

"Some commanders of the Mongolian People's Revolutionary army with a group of Red Army instructors. From left to right: 1st in the 1st row-Chief of General Staff MPRA V.A. Kangelara, 4th in the same row-Chief Inspector of the MPRA Kh. Choibalsan and 6th in the same row-Chief of the Mobilization Division of MPRA Myagmar". 1925."

Sorkin is (our guess) bottom row, third from the left

Many more pic's of my trip to UB to follow, incl. many orders/medals related!

Caption

Closeup, he's on the right

Back to Sorkin - a picture from the museum (he is on far right, his name is spelled incorrectly as Sorokin)

Choibalsan is a few seats to the left

Some pics from the mentioned museum (i'll spare you the room with skulls with bullet holes...). Sorkin had interesting "friends" in high places...

First the museum, the former house of Peljidiin Genden who was the second President (1924 to 1927) and the ninth Prime Minister (1932–1936) of Mongolia. He was purged and executed in Russia in 1937 - interesting story: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peljidiin_Genden

Hi Bryan - would you still be able to have something Korean translated? I have an award document (as well as the actual award) for a Order of Flag first class awarded in 1951 (so during the Korean War!) and awarded to a Mongolian (!) and would be very interesting to see if the award document provides some clues as to why a Mongolian General was receiving the highest DPRK award during the Korean War

Will post scans of the Mongolian-Soviet-DPRK group later today.

Thanks

Sorry - my last post was indeed to an ebay auction for a photograph, not a tunic.

eBay has a nice pic up

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In Ulaan Baatar right now, and i MAY have found out a little bit more on Sorkin in a local museum - the museum is the "Victims of Political Persecution Memorial Museum"... so that should give a hint (think Cambodian killing fields but on smaller scale)... pics to be posted when I'm back home.

As the claim of "holy grail" was recently advanced on another thread, I'll not employ that vocabulary here. But I am tempted. Very tempted!

<b>C 02 VAR -- Best Shooter</b>

The NIB variant of the "Best Sword Hitter" badge (C 02). This is the first one seen, only a rumor unil now. And only two "Good Sword Hitters" are known (and both are in poor condition). Apparently a Mongol equivalent of the Soviet Voroshilov badges, but for swords and guns only -- all Mongols were expected to ride well!

I had the "Good Shooter" version of this badge in my hands earlier today (along with a type 1 Hero, and some assorted KGB, Sukb Baatar, early Red Banner,etc awards). Indeed, there appear to be two variations:

- Good Shooter

- Good Sword Hitter

The Good Sword hitter badge (in reasonable condition considering the age, some enamle cracked/missing but generally OK) was said to have been bought by the dealer in the country side from a local for USD 16 not so long ago!!

Will have some other nice pics to share when back, finally got close to a type 2 hero award (i.e. the "normal" gold hero star) for instance.

Cold in UB, but glad I'm finally here!

Hello Bob,

RS 876273, RB 258082, Lenin 133190, and RB 530435 are all for long service (15, 20, 25, and 30 years respectively). RB 247548 is a 'real' award and should be interesting to research. I don't know why RS 656998 was awarded by a Ukaz of the the Presidium of Supreme Soviet (It's not long service, so I would have expected a military unit Prikaz), but I would get that one too.

Thanks Ferdinand - this will help me focus my scarce resources, and will post results here for sure. My green "Echoes" "book unfortunately is in another country than i am right now so appreciate the direction on this.

Can highly recommend a visit to the Zeppeling museum in Friedrichshafen. Especially for the person holding on to this lovely group.

http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/topic/1032-the-worlds-most-bizarre-award-a-new-chapter/page__st__100

On the last page of this thread there's a chain of miniatures with some items which also belong in this forum.

Will be digging through thie "Weimar Republic & Freikorps" secton when at home this evening to learn more about some of the items on the chain, but appreciate anybody with knowledge on what this chain could represent to comment.

Thanks,

Bob

I'm a complete novice (or even less!) when it comes to Imperial Russian awards or Imperial German, really just got this because of the Tamara in it.

Would be very interested to know more about the other awards so will be browsing GMIC over the weekend on that, and also would be interested to hear whether - due to the combination of awards - there's a chance to narrow down who may have been the recipient of this set (i realize that's wishing for something with a very slim chance!). Anybody with a view on this?

Here's pics, some closeups as well - i was very impressed (even with the small chip off one of the Imperial Russian ones).