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another one
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Here another interesting one... supposedly Albanian yet Soviet made ORDER FOR PARTISAN MARCH IN 1947
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Here 3 soviet pins - all three with a strong Elbrus connection - 2 of them noting the burnt down Priut hut.
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Visiting the bank where my babies are safefully stored. REalized, hey this is a good moment to take a pic of the family! Mobile phone pic so low quality
First... my Mongolian Sukh Bataar's: 3 screwbacks, 4 pinbacks and then at the top the "thing" which isn't real
Second... main thrust of my collection of hero awards from small socialist countries:
- 2 Soyombo Hero of Labour from Mongolia (missing in pic, a 3rd "debated" soyombo)
- 2 Albanian Hero Stars (both cased; 1 attributed)
- 1 Albanian Hero of Socialist Labor (boxed with doc/name)
- 1 Cuban Hero of Socialist Labor
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Went to the bank to drop some things off and also measured 2 Soyombos e.g.
373:
39.0 gr excl. screw
3.87 diameter of screw thread
420:
36.6 gr excl. screw
2.80 diameter of screw thread
I had forgotten to actually bring my 3rd Soyombo to the bank so will be measuring that one at home over the weekend. Just too many variations of Soyombo's to make one feel comfortable!
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While I'm not a holder of a very big Bulgarian collection (2x Dimitrov), I second the request. Lot of interest in Bulgarian ODM which warrents a specific forum. Should also help to:
- draw more visitors as it unfolds as THE place to go for Bulgarian ODM (similar to Mongolia, ALbania, Cuba sections)
- unclutter the "other" sub-forum which has gotten inundated with Bulgarian threads:)
By the way, I'd also be very much in favor of a DPRK forum!
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I received no research just the confirmation that the order book was for anothe person than name in the booklet.
While the awards seperately would still be researchable, I'd not have paid what I did had I know these were loose awards of course so first step is to return them to Berlin "dealer of dealers".
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And what came out of research is not so good unfortunately. The order booklet was issued to somebody else. The group is a fake.
Hats off to Nota Bene to refund me for research request.
Group will now have to find its way back to Berlin.
And I'm done for good with Soviet awards which appear to require a PhD in order to be somewhat safe from crap like this
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If I'm not mistaken, the group is missing his Red Star, plus all of his campaign medals. Maybe that's why it's 498k and not 500k
Sorry then. I'm a purist - only complete groups. I'll have to pass on this group.
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That's exactly what I said. I posted this link earlier on the other sub-forum.
Great group for the real bargain hunters... only 498K usd... I wouldn't be tempted if it was flat 500K... but 498K... mmm let me think about it over the weekend
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bump - just because i like this award and it continues to spark my curiosity
difficult to find numbered ones nowadays, nota bene had one for sale but not as cheap as in past anymore and was sold before i spotted it
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Received my copy - great book - wonderful to have such an overview of DPRK awards and presumably this will increase interest in them. Pics could have been a bit sharper here and there but all in all glad that I got the book.
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Up for auction at Zeige.com
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Thanks Eric - interesting perspective.
Ivan was always completely silent about the war to his family and all I've been told is that when he returned home he looked 15 years older and devastated.
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Yowie!
That is a really early 2nd class!!!
And the merry couple didn't wait too long for their 1st class either
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The other two medals LISTED were Capture of K?nigsberg and Victory Over Germany.
He was in charge of the "chemical section" (? anti-gas defense) in howitzer and anti-aircraft artillery regiments, as well as some chemical battalions. I don't see anything "sinister" looking in his assignments that could account for any special security restrictions.
Thanks Rick. Guess I should slicken up my cyrillic reading skills
Chemical section makes sense... fits exactly in the family history. Having said that, I didn't realize chemical warfare was something that was done during WWII. Paranoia?
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What better to do on a Sunday evening then sip some Pouilly-Fume and update the serial number list
AWARD NUMBER DATE
Distinguished Co-Worker of the State Security Service 163 17/07/1944
Distinguished Co-Worker of the State Security Service 393 10/09/1973
Distinguished Co-Worker of the State Security Service 435 01/03/1954
Hero of Mongolia 8 29/05/1957
Hero of Mongolia 22 12/08/1969
Hero of Mongolia 27 07/05/1971
Hero of Mongolia 37 14/12/1976
Hero of Mongolia 43 08/06/1981
Hero of Labour Gold Soyombo 1 1956
Hero of Labour Gold Soyombo 38 27/10/1961
Hero of Labour Gold Soyombo 44 29/12/1961
Hero of Labour Gold Soyombo 52 28/11/1962
Hero of Labour Gold Soyombo 79 13/10/1966
Hero of Labour Gold Soyombo 250 1981
Hero of Labour Gold Soyombo 424 03/04/1986
Honorious Medal of Labour 1,554 06/07/1991
Honorious Medal of Labour 2,614 11/09/1946
Honorious Medal of Labour 3,285 02/02/1946
Honorious Medal of Labour 5,388 15/07/1952
Honorious Medal of Labour 7,982 11/03/1959
Honorious Medal of Labour 9,393 13/11/1956
Honorious Medal of Labour 9,672 27/09/1956
Honorious Medal of Labour 10,328 30/08/1956
Honorious Medal of Labour 10,660 17/10/1951
Honorious Medal of Labour 11,032 06/11/1956
Honorious Medal of Labour 11,584 10/12/1958
Honorious Medal of Labour 11,934 02/11/1956
Honorious Medal of Labour 16,235 26/06/1964
Honorious Medal of Labour 16,335 11/11/1960
Honorious Medal of Labour 16,573 15/07/1965
Honorious Medal of Labour 16,634 23/07/1965
Honorious Medal of Labour 16,773 21/06/1977
Honorious Medal of Labour 17,040 07/07/1966
Honorious Medal of Labour 20,914 24/11/1975
Honorious Medal of Labour 23,159 04/08/1976
Honorious Medal of Labour 24,082 14/07/1960
Honorious Medal of Labour 25,236 22/11/2007
Honorious Medal of Labour 26,554 11/12/1979
Honored Railway Worker 105 14/01/1981
Medal We Won 112 29/06/1946
Medal We Won 2,826 06/07/1946
Medal We Won 3,443 06/07/1946
Medal We Won 5,698 16/07/1947
Medal We Won 9,678 09/07/1946
Medal We Won 21,406 20/09/1946
Medal We Won 26,931 28/12/1990
Medal We Won 52,388 28/12/1990
Medal 25 Years of the MPR 33 12/05/1947
Medal 25 Years of the MPR 199 25/12/1948
Medal 25 Years of the MPR 13,958 30/07/1946
Medal 25 Years of the MPR 14,184 17/08/1946
Medal 25 Years of the MPR 18,801 13/07/1947
Medal 40 Years of the MPR 119 07/09/1961
Medal 40 Years of the MPR 1,974 07/07/1961
Medal 40 Years of the MPR 4,758 10/07/1961
Medal 40 Years of the MPR 15,955 15/09/1961
Medal 40 Years of the MPR 29,673 28/09/1961
Medal for Meritorious Service in Battle 350 06/07/1946
Medal for Meritorious Service in Battle 854 26/09/1946
Medal for Meritorious Service in Battle 902 10/07/1941
Medal for Meritorious Service in Battle 1,288 16/09/1947
Medal for Meritorious Service in Battle 2,738 09/07/1949
Medal for Meritorious Service in Battle 2,974 09/11/1948
Medal for Meritorious Service in Battle 3,159 20/08/1951
Medal for Meritorious Service in Battle 3,191 20/08/1957
Medal for Meritorious Service in Battle 3,561 05/07/1956
Medal for Meritorious Service in Battle 3,813 08/07/1947
Medal for Meritorious Service in Battle 4,125 30/06/1986
Medal for Meritorious Service in Battle 4,144 23/09/1948
Medal for Meritorious Service in Battle 4,312 08/07/1947
Medal for Meritorious Service in Battle 4,521 11/09/1953
Medal for Meritorious Service in Battle 4,794 09/07/1982
Medal for Meritorious Service in Battle 5,228 24/07/1954
Medal for Meritorious Service in Battle 5,514 20/08/1951
Medal for Meritorious Service in Battle 6,094 22/07/1946
Medal for Meritorious Service in Battle 7,153 08/07/1946
Medal for Meritorious Service in Battle 7,622 08/07/1946
Medal for Meritorious Service in Battle 7,760 08/07/1950
Medal for Meritorious Service in Battle 19,346 24/09/1984
Medal for Meritorious Service in Battle 20,151 19/07/1985
Medal for Meritorious Service in Battle 23,400 02/12/1980
Medal for Unselfishness 1,046 29/04/1999
Medal for Unselfishness 1,176 06/05/1991 ?
Medal of Friendship 1,761 12/11/1968
Medal of Friendship 4,086 1971
Order for Meritorious Service in Battle 14 06/07/1946
Order for Meritorious Service in Battle 391 11/09/1953
Order for Meritorious Service in Battle 652 08/09/1950
Order for Meritorious Service in Battle 1,049 01/10/1959
Order for Meritorious Service in Battle 1,552 29/09/1964
Order for Meritorious Service in Battle 1,920 18/12/1968
Order for Meritorious Service in Battle 2,146 00/06/1969
Order for Meritorious Service in Battle 2,695 1972
Order for Meritorious Service in Battle 2,777 1971
Order for Meritorious Service in Battle 4,096 17/09/1953
Order for Meritorious Service in Battle 4,836 15/07/1985
Order for Meritorious Service in Battle 5,138 03/04/1986
Order for Meritorious Service in Battle 5,685 27/03/1987
Order for Meritorious Service in Battle 6,300 09/07/1988
Order for Meritorious Service in Battle 6,515 04/07/1991
Order for Meritorious Service in Battle 6,854 29/08/1995
Order for Meritorious Service in Battle 6,885 28/08/1995
Order for Meritorious Service in Battle 6,972 29/08/1995
Order for Meritorious Service in Battle 7,388 15/09/1995
Order for Meritorious Service in Battle 8,068 09/08/1999
Order for Meritorious Service in Battle 8,126 09/08/1999
Order of the Red Banner of Military Valour 859 08/09/1939
Order of Combat Red Banner 603 27/11/1958
Order of Combat Red Banner 4,953 29/08/1995
Order of Combat Red Banner 5,198 03/04/1986
Order of Combat Red Banner 5,348 09/08/1999
Order of Mother Heroine - 1st class 5,396 16/02/1965
Order of Mother Heroine - 1st class 7,981 01/03/1967
Order of Mother Heroine - 1st class 8,128 01/03/1967
Order of Mother Heroine - 1st class 11,608 13/02/1970
Order of Mother Heroine - 1st class 16,062 21/02/1972
Order of Mother Heroine - 1st class 21,460 25/01/1975
Order of Mother Heroine - 1st class 24,179 20/02/1976
Order of Mother Heroine - 1st class 31,252 22/02/1978
Order of Mother Heroine - 1st class 33,062 17/02/1979
Order of Mother Heroine - 1st class 34,361 23/02/1980
Order of Mother Heroine - 1st class 43,883 00/03/1984
Order of Mother Heroine - 1st class 45,130 25/02/1981
Order of Mother Heroine - 1st class 45,507 21/02/1985
Order of Mother Heroine - 2nd class 543 29/05/1958
Order of Mother Heroine - 2nd class 9,195 25/06/1958
Order of Mother Heroine - 2nd class 13,892 10/10/1958
Order of Mother Heroine - 2nd class 15,709 10/11/1958
Order of Mother Heroine - 2nd class 23,370 26/02/1960
Order of Mother Heroine - 2nd class 23,451 25/02/1960
Order of Mother Heroine - 2nd class 25,633 02/03/1961
Order of Mother Heroine - 2nd class 29,451 25/02/1962
Order of Mother Heroine - 2nd class 36,905 11/02/1964
Order of Mother Heroine - 2nd class 37,554 14/02/1964
Order of Mother Heroine - 2nd class 39,895 04/03/1964
Order of Mother Heroine - 2nd class 44,113 27/02/1965
Order of Mother Heroine - 2nd class 61,823 08/02/1969
Order of Mother Heroine - 2nd class 77,748 17/02/1972
Order of Mother Heroine - 2nd class 77,962 17/02/1972
Order of Mother Heroine - 2nd class 84,187 22/02/1973
Order of Mother Heroine - 2nd class 116,403 00/00/1978
Order of Mother Heroine - 2nd class 120,901 27/02/1980
Order of Mother Heroine - 2nd class 130,167 24/02/1981
Order of Mother Heroine - 2nd class 132,425 27/02/1981
Order of Mother Heroine - 2nd class 145,118 18/08/1985
Order of Mother Heroine - 2nd class 145,718 1985
Order of Mother Heroine - 2nd class 145,926 04/03/1985
Order of Mother Heroine - 2nd class 158,495 24/05/1988
Order of Mother Heroine - 2nd class 187,862 22/05/1995
Order of Mother Heroine - 2nd class 191,632 00/5/1997
Order of Mother Heroine - 2nd class 191,640 22/05/1997
Order of Mother Heroine - 2nd class 196,039 10/05/2000
Order of Polar Star 88 06/07/1946
Order of Polar Star 270 06/07/1946
Order of Polar Star 787 06/07/1946
Order of Polar Star 822 23/09/1946
Order of Polar Star 1,029 29/09/1945
Order of Polar Star 1,162 17/10/1951
Order of Polar Star 1,217 04/12/1955
Order of Polar Star 1,225 6/09/1944
Order of Polar Star 1,562 08/07/1947
Order of Polar Star 1,956 29/11/1955
Order of Polar Star 2,265 3/11/1945
Order of Polar Star 2,313 26/09/1945
Order of Polar Star 2,506 30/12/1956
Order of Polar Star 2,705 08/12/1948
Order of Polar Star 2,824 05/02/1949
Order of Polar Star 2,946 08/07/1950
Order of Polar Star 3,079 16/01/1957
Order of Polar Star 3,301 1956
Order of Polar Star 3,538 26/11/1954
Order of Polar Star 3,553 08/07/1947
Order of Polar Star 3,917 30/12/1956
Order of Polar Star 4,370 17/10/1951
Order of Polar Star 4,445 17/10/1951
Order of Polar Star 4,612 03/08/1956
Order of Polar Star 4,832 06/11/1956
Order of Polar Star 4,860 26/11/1954
Order of Polar Star 4,948 08/12/1948
Order of Polar Star 5,401 20/10/1956
Order of Polar Star 5,556 17/09/1953
Order of Polar Star 5,901 20/07/1946
Order of Polar Star 5,941 24/07/1948
Order of Polar Star 6,133 16/02/1956
Order of Polar Star 6,335 24/05/1950
Order of Polar Star 6,453 10/11/1956
Order of Polar Star 8,143 15/11/1958
Order of Polar Star 8,712 22/10/1959
Order of Polar Star 8,853 24/12/1959
Order of Polar Star 9,013 14/12/1957
Order of Polar Star 9,138 14/07/1960
Order of Polar Star 9,623 15/12/1960
Order of Polar Star 10,358 25/08/1961
Order of Polar Star 11,340 18/05/1965
Order of Polar Star 11,611 00/03/1966
Order of Polar Star 13,376 01/12/1969
Order of Polar Star 13,809 03/06/1971
Order of Polar Star 14,236 03/07/1971
Order of Polar Star 14,292 03/06/1971
Order of Polar Star 14,718 12/03/1973
Order of Polar Star 15,860 03/07/1971
Order of Polar Star 17,522 10/06/1976
Order of Polar Star 18,389 19/10/1976
Order of Polar Star 19,735 01/12/1979
Order of Polar Star 21,473 26/06/1981
Order of Polar Star 23,262 17/06/1982
Order of Polar Star 25,483 03/04/1980
Order of Polar Star 26,707 25/06/1991
Order of Polar Star 26,734 19/11/1990
Order of Polar Star 27,017 03/07/1991
Order of Polar Star 27,625 06/07/1991
Order of Polar Star 28,116 08/07/1998
Order of Polar Star 28,321 18/04/1995
Order of Polar Star 29,034 29/11/1998
Order of Polar Star 29,893 6-xx-2000
Order of Polar Star 31,529 21/11/2001
Order of Polar Star 185/1804 1936
Order of Suche Baatar 1 1941
Order of Suche Baatar 24 1946
Order of Suche Baatar 31 1949
Order of Suche Baatar 114 29/12/1955
Order of Suche Baatar 158 24/10/1957
Order of Suche Baatar 166 29/05/1957
Order of Suche Baatar 186 06/07/1960
Order of Suche Baatar 242 24/12/1959
Order of Suche Baatar 340 1961
Order of Suche Baatar 341 1961
Order of Suche Baatar 342 1961
Order of Suche Baatar 343 1961
Order of Suche Baatar 344 1961
Order of Suche Baatar 383 27/10/1961
Order of Suche Baatar 423 28/11/1962
Order of Suche Baatar 470 13/12/1963
Order of Suche Baatar 541 1966
Order of Suche Baatar 542 1966
Order of Suche Baatar 558 1966
Order of Suche Baatar 586 1968
Order of Suche Baatar 588 1968
Order of Suche Baatar 589 1968
Order of Suche Baatar 591 1968
Order of Suche Baatar 605 13/06/1968
Order of Suche Baatar 612 10/11/1968
Order of Suche Baatar 642 12/08/1969
Order of Suche Baatar 684 15/10/1969
Order of Suche Baatar 692 1969
Order of Suche Baatar 695 18/12/1969
Order of Suche Baatar 803 05/07/1971
Order of Suche Baatar 919 1971
Order of Suche Baatar 922 1971
Order of Suche Baatar 923 1971
Order of Suche Baatar 924 1971
Order of Suche Baatar 925 1971
Order of Suche Baatar 927 1971
Order of Suche Baatar 928 1971
Order of Suche Baatar 931 1971
Order of Suche Baatar 932 1971
Order of Suche Baatar 933 1971
Order of Suche Baatar 937 1971
Order of Suche Baatar 989 1973
Order of Suche Baatar 1,123 1975
Order of Suche Baatar 1,255 14/12/1975
Order of Suche Baatar 1,335 1978
Order of Suche Baatar 1,404 22/10/1980
Order of Suche Baatar 1,412 02/12/1980
Order of Suche Baatar 1,462 08/06/1981
Order of Suche Baatar 1,463 1981
Order of Suche Baatar 1,465 1981
Order of Suche Baatar 1,491 09/07/1981
Order of Suche Baatar 1,530 1981
Order of Suche Baatar 1,532 1981
Order of Suche Baatar 1,548 1981
Order of Suche Baatar 1,562 1981
Order of Suche Baatar 1,715 1986
Order of Suche Baatar 1,770 11/11/1989
Order of Suche Baatar 1,934 23/10/1996
Order of the Red Banner of Labour 621 17/11/1951
Order of the Red Banner of Labour 943 sept 43
Order of the Red Banner of Labour 1,039 16/02/1956
Order of the Red Banner of Labour 1,423 24/12/1959
Order of the Red Banner of Labour 2,329 22/10/1960
Order of the Red Banner of Labour 2,333 15/12/1960
Order of the Red Banner of Labour 2,845 01/02/1960
Order of the Red Banner of Labour 2,869 24/12/1959
Order of the Red Banner of Labour 3,744 24/11/1973
Order of the Red Banner of Labour 3,809 28/04/1980
Order of the Red Banner of Labour 4,452 28/01/1975
Order of the Red Banner of Labour 4,674 07/06/1976
Order of the Red Banner of Labour 4,835 22/12/1978
Order of the Red Banner of Labour 5,050 09/07/1981
Order of the Red Banner of Labour 5,826 00/00/1987
Order of the Red Banner of Labour 6,238 15/04/1993
Title of Merit 607 26/06/1981
Udarnik 2,203 31/10/1947
Udarnik 3,049 28/12/1951
Virgin Lands 1,187 24/10/1979
Virgin Lands 1,300 24/10/1979
Virgin Lands 3,074 16/12/1982
The Honored Railway Worker 105 14/01/1981
The Honored Railway Worker 608 16/02/1993
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I simply do not believe these absurd prices can be sustained or will last. At some point the prices will collapse and there will be a long list of seriously aggrieved individuals.
Why not? I think supply has largely been channeled to people with close to zero interest in selling their collection. Prices have shot up because - even such a small collecting community - demand is now > supply... and supply will only get smaller and smaller (recall how much was available on eBay 2 years ago???) while (with research / 2nd edition coming) demand will only increase... add to that 100+ USD oil.
Having said that, price is irrelevant for the collection which I already have... it unfortunately is also a constraint to expand the collection much further.
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i sent him a message via ebay, and he sent me one back - from this email address
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dieter_bremerhaven@web.de
That's his email address for those who'd like to send him warm regards.
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The book indeed raises many questions.
On Hein Sonnenberg itself, I suspect he is a collector (I've sold him some items in the past) and it appears this is a "labour of love" as he runs a publishing or printing business himself.
I have to say some (very limited) of the prices in the book don't appear very unreasonable.
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Idi Amin VC Medals
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Here's something interesting... miniature Uganda medals!