Bob

Personally, I'm not sure I like that award at all. The number is way too low and way too odd.

could be right

Just in a nice Medal "Gold Soyembo" type 2.

But with a problem.

Or could this be the socalled type 3, with a number added?

Getting confused...

4 looks good vs. 420 earlier in thread

Badge 100% proper and of properly Mongolian manufacture, down to the screw-plate.

it appears different screw plates in use for type 2...

unfortunately battery of scale ran out to do some comparison measurements

Yes, definately one of a kind.

2 year GMIC-Mongolia anniversary went by without a

We've certainly come a long way in a short period of time

And now for something insanely ugly. It looks in some areas different than the type 3 Ed posted which may make this either a fake or a variation of type 3.

There is something which is "supposed to" resemble a number on the reverse.

What kind of person would produce something like this and then go home at the end of the day feeling proud of his work

Reverse - IKOM

Commemorative pin for Albanian partisans in WW2

So they've not gotten much more expensive in Euros... but try making people who's currency reference is USD (in UB as well) uppreciate that.

RECENTLY SOLD

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- USD 1.870, nr 1.918, Nota Bene - JANUARY 2007

- USD 1.880, nr 1.785, Nota Bene - JANUARY 2007 (boxed)

- USD 1.950, nr 860, www.russianglory.com - MARCH 2007

- EURO 1.600 (roughly 2.100 USD), nr 1.183, www.huesken.com - MARCH 2007

- EURO 1.650 (roughly 2.200 USD), nr 1.514, www.huesken.com - JUNE 2007

- EURO 1.300 (roughly 1.700 USD), nr 1.246, private seller - SEPTEMBER 2007

- EURO 1.600 (roughly 2.200 USD - before fees!), nr 1.514, Andreas Thies October auction - OCTOBER 2007

- USD 1.850, nr 1.947, Nota Bene - NOVEMBER 2007

- USD 2.150, nr 1.837, www.collectrussia.com - NOVEMBER 2007

- USD 1.950, nr 1.437, Nota Bene - JANUARY 2008

- USD 2.000 (excl. 15% auction premium), nr 1,246, Dmitry Markov auction - JANUARY 2008

- USD 1.925, nr 902, eBay - FEBRUARY 2008

- USD 2.200, nr 1.617, somewhere in Russia - MARCH 2008

- USD 2.750, nr 1.635, www.collectrussia.com - MARCH 2008

- USD 2.750, nr 860, Nota Bene - APRIL 2008

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- USD 1.680, nr 644, Nota Bene - NOVEMBER 2006

- EUR 1.630 (roughly 2.150 USD), nr 585, Albert GMIC - MAY 2007

- USD 2.650, nr 644 (again!), Nota Bene - OCTOBER 2007 (boxed)

- USD 2.900, nr 640, www.collectrussia.com - NOVEMBER 2007

- USD 2.500, nr 777, somewhere in Russia - DECEMBER 2007

- USD 3.250 (excl. 15% auction premium), nr 427, Dmitry Markov auction - JANUARY 2008

CURRENTLY FOR SALE

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- USD 3.200, nr 1.600, www.collectrussia.com

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- USD 4.200, nr 227, Coinsell (on eBay) ???

After more than a dozen emails with no reply (only reply was when I sent an email to one of his auction partners who forwarded my email to him with me on CC) I went down the route of calling. Only to be stonewalled by an answering machine and no response when I spoke in a message.

I'm very, very disappointed in this. I'm going to give it one last shot before drawing a line underneath this and moving on.

great condition for a nr 5!

not mine

yeiks - at close to 4K USD the price was not "right" for a foreign awarded one for me

Can't wait to get mine!

Wouldn't a seperate DPRK section be nice...

Difficult. Medals are available, ribbon is available, and the late-Soviet aluminum mounts are available. Use your imagination. If you are happy with the source . . . ???

This is indeed the challenge - although based on photographs the quality looks quite good and it is interesting to note the lack of a serial number without any real damage (although there are ways around this I guess). The seller has a vast collection of Mongolian items and am also discussing some other interesting pieces. Fantasy piece or real, that's an interesting question. Will see if the price is right.

Ok, just to summarize what we think we know on terminology and numbers:

Type 1 (broad numbers); Low = 159/High = 9116

Type 2 (narrow numbers); Low = 10327/High = 20008

Type 3 (for foreigners, on pentagonal suspension); Low = ??/High = ??

Corrections, please.

Anyone ever come up with new insight on the type 3? Have one offered for sale to me and am very tempted.

Doesn't look like a recession to me...

RECENTLY SOLD

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- USD 1.870, nr 1.918, Nota Bene - JANUARY 2007

- USD 1.880, nr 1.785, Nota Bene - JANUARY 2007 (boxed)

- USD 1.950, nr 860, www.russianglory.com - MARCH 2007

- EURO 1.600 (roughly 2.100 USD), nr 1.183, www.huesken.com - MARCH 2007

- EURO 1.650 (roughly 2.200 USD), nr 1.514, www.huesken.com - JUNE 2007

- EURO 1.300 (roughly 1.700 USD), nr 1.246, private seller - SEPTEMBER 2007

- EURO 1.600 (roughly 2.200 USD - before fees!), nr 1.514, Andreas Thies October auction - OCTOBER 2007

- USD 1.850, nr 1.947, Nota Bene - NOVEMBER 2007

- USD 2.150, nr 1.837, www.collectrussia.com - NOVEMBER 2007

- USD 1.950, nr 1.437, Nota Bene - JANUARY 2008

- USD 2.000 (excl. 15% auction premium), nr 1,246, Dmitry Markov auction - JANUARY 2008

- USD 1.925, nr 902, eBay - FEBRUARY 2008

- USD 2.200, nr 1.617, somewhere in Russia - MARCH 2008

- USD 2.750, nr 1.635, www.collectrussia.com - MARCH 2008

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- USD 1.680, nr 644, Nota Bene - NOVEMBER 2006

- EUR 1.630 (roughly 2.150 USD), nr 585, Albert GMIC - MAY 2007

- USD 2.650, nr 644 (again!), Nota Bene - OCTOBER 2007 (boxed)

- USD 2.900, nr 640, www.collectrussia.com - NOVEMBER 2007

- USD 2.500, nr 777, somewhere in Russia - DECEMBER 2007

- USD 3.250 (excl. 15% auction premium), nr 427, Dmitry Markov auction - JANUARY 2008

CURRENTLY FOR SALE

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- USD 2.750, nr 860, Nota Bene

- USD 3.200, nr 1.600, www.collectrussia.com

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- USD 4.200, nr 227, Coinsell (on eBay)

- were there really 1.000 type 1 polar stars awarded?

Interestingly enough - the author has confirmed he's held type 1's in his hand with serial numbers in 700 and 800 range.

Perhaps the rarity is then due to trading them in for newer types at some point.

Ed - empty your inbox

Mailing with the seller, and the award posted by me is supposedly now getting 20K+ USD offers from the major dealers.

Last time I checked there were 3-4 for sale on eBay. If that's a problem, I'd be happy to buy and ship.

Alternatively, I'll just send the author an email if he'll sell direct - some questions to ask him anyway:)

Let me know

Have just received my copy in the mail.

Format slightly bigger than Herfurth's handy pocket size catalogue. Photographs are larger and quite good. From first quick glance, nothing new in here in terms of "never seen before medals"... however, it appears to raise some interesting questions as some new types are specified, periods are giving on awarding and also number of awarded + price indication. Some of this last data is puzzling, baffling, surprising and simply raises a lot of questions. Some examples:

- is there really a Type 3 bronze gilded Hero of Labor award?

- were there really 150 awarded Order of Red Banner of Military Valor 4th awardings?

- were there really 1.000 type 1 polar stars awarded?

Since the author appears to be in contact with Dr B, it would be interesting to hear whether the nr of awardings / dates are really confirmed from official sources.