Bob

Research request sent out. Liked the 2-6 weeks indication on Alexei's site

Sounds like this one will be an interesting puzzle to sort all out.

1970 Red Star to air force sneaky-stuff pilot? Noooooooooooooo way long service!

Only one way to find out

Just hope it doesn't take >1 year as it's taking for some of my other open research requests

Writing my mail to Alexei as we speak.

No recommendation for the "Motherland" and no full service record? Service record may not be available, as he may be still living?

Nope - this is all I have. I received the research with the purchase though so will go off to request - as far as possible - the rest from researcher. Will try Nota Bene this time around.

If you have the 1970 Red Star citation and ARC, post those in hopes the unit will be typed out in full. These abbreviations me.

All that I have is posted, but I'll send the red star off for research as well (presumably long service though I assume). May take some time of course...

Thanks Rick - owe you a

Will do a rescan in 2 seperate (larger) pieces of the last scan. Hopefully makes reading easier.

Nothing beats the excitement of researched awards!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/16th_Air_Army

sounds like a part of the Special Purpose Command around Moscow... but possibly based in East Germany during 70's? Would make sense given the description Rick just gave.

ARC for OSH3 =

Oboyzinsky, Viktor Mikhailovich

Lieutenant Colonel

born 1939 in village of Ivan'ki, Man'kovsky Raion, Kievskaya Oblast

Member CPSU since October 1961

Higher education, Ukrainian, in Red Army since August 1956

Position at time decorated-- Squadron Commander in 226th Independent Guards Aviation Regiment for Electronic Suppression/Countermeasures/jamming

Now (8.5.77) same

Living at Apt 21, House 79, city of Poltava-4

OSH3 22.2.77

Thanks - that sounds interesting On to google now to try to find out where this squadron was based

And you don't WANT to know the sorts of prices being asked for A2s these days (and we're talking UB prices, not as if that makes much difference anymore)!

20 to 30 USD on eBay

sold to me as awarded to a pilot... now keeping my fingers crossed that he wasn't just flying airmail

Not entirely the right way to look at it of course but:

- 2000 SB's at 2K a piece

- 400 Soyombos at 8K a piece

factor 4-5 in volume and inverse also in price

doesn't sound that unreasonable... it's more the sudden rise in price that surprised me... 3-4K for a soyombo I always found cheap considering the significance and rarity of this award.

with SB's heading toward 2.5-3K... I think soyombos will be quickly heading over 10K

am just glad I got mine when I did as I sense that "Soviet collecting times" are coming

who knows of course how much the researchability now has to do with price increases... it's a whole new ball game now

First time I purchased a Soviet group, ok... a relatively small one but still excited about it.

Would appreciate some help with translation as English translation of research was not part of the deal.

- Order of Service to the Motherland 18.861

- Order of Red Star 3.595.471

Just in time for Xmas you can count on Nota Bene to get some goodies!

RECENTLY SOLD

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- USD 1.870, nr 1.918, Nota Bene - JANUARY 2007

- USD 1.880, nr 1.785, Nota Bene - JANUARY 2007 (boxed)

- USD 1.950, nr 860, www.russianglory.com - MARCH 2007

- EURO 1.600 (roughly 2.100 USD), nr 1.183, www.huesken.com - MARCH 2007

- EURO 1.650 (roughly 2.200 USD), nr 1.514, www.huesken.com - JUNE 2007

- EURO 1.300 (roughly 1.700 USD), nr 1.246, private seller - SEPTEMBER 2007

- EURO 1.600 (roughly 2.200 USD - before fees!), nr 1.514, Andreas Thies October auction - OCTOBER 2007

- USD 1.850, nr 1.947, Nota Bene - NOVEMBER 2007

- USD 2.150, nr 1.837, www.collectrussia.com - NOVEMBER 2007

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- USD 1.680, nr 644, Nota Bene - NOVEMBER 2006

- EUR 1.630 (roughly 2.150 USD), nr 585, Albert GMIC - MAY 2007

- USD 2.650, nr 644 (again!), Nota Bene - OCTOBER 2007 (boxed)

- USD 2.900, nr 640, www.collectrussia.com - NOVEMBER 2007

- USD 2.500, nr 777, somewhere in Russia - DECEMBER 2007

CURRENTLY FOR SALE

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- USD 2.450, nr 1.764, <a href="http://auction-su.com/-,itemname,160966,id,auctiondetails" target="_blank">http://auction-su.com/-,itemname,160966,id,auctiondetails</a>

- USD 1.400 (starting price), nr 1,246, Dmitry Markov auction

- USD 1.950, nr 1.437, Nota Bene

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- USD 3.300, nr 227, Coinsell (on eBay)

- USD 1.400 (starting price), nr 427, Dmitry Markov auction

Gold Soembo Medal of a Hero of Labor of Mongolian Peoples Republic, #74.

http://www.collectrussia.com/DISPITEM.HTM?ITEM=13930

HOLY SMOKES: 8.5K USD!!!

Barely 3-4 weeks ago Igor had another one listed for 4.5K... correction:

http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:UXWn1kT...cd=12&gl=be

it ws 4.750 for nr 44... stil... almost 4k up in price...

I guess no more new Soyombo's for me

Wow! Thanks Bob.

This site is full of obvious fake. And for some other, I am sure that a careful examination would reveal they are also fake. When you see that Title of Meritorious Pilot Badge sell for just 100$ more than a Navy Dagger (448$), you know something is really wrong.

You're right. I proposed a "send it for certification to Nota Bene and I'll pay the costs if it's real" solution to buying an item but that did not go down well... the seller issues his own certificate of authenticity though

http://coins-decorations.com/

this is the one I was referring to

Thanks Christian - seems like this dealer only sales "highend" fakes then

Interesting... the same SB's appear to "circulate": 1.246 twice in below list, 1.514 twice in below list, 644 twice in below list!

RECENTLY SOLD

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- USD 1.870, nr 1.918, Nota Bene - JANUARY 2007

- USD 1.880, nr 1.785, Nota Bene - JANUARY 2007 (boxed)

- USD 1.950, nr 860, www.russianglory.com - MARCH 2007

- EURO 1.600 (roughly 2.100 USD), nr 1.183, www.huesken.com - MARCH 2007

- EURO 1.650 (roughly 2.200 USD), nr 1.514, www.huesken.com - JUNE 2007

- EURO 1.300 (roughly 1.700 USD), nr 1.246, private seller - SEPTEMBER 2007

- EURO 1.600 (roughly 2.200 USD - before fees!), nr 1.514, Andreas Thies October auction - OCTOBER 2007

- USD 1.850, nr 1.947, Nota Bene - NOVEMBER 2007

- USD 2.150, nr 1.837, www.collectrussia.com - NOVEMBER 2007

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- USD 1.680, nr 644, Nota Bene - NOVEMBER 2006

- EUR 1.630 (roughly 2.150 USD), nr 585, Albert GMIC - MAY 2007

- USD 2.650, nr 644 (again!), Nota Bene - OCTOBER 2007 (boxed)

- USD 2.900, nr 640, www.collectrussia.com - NOVEMBER 2007

- USD 2.500, nr 777, somewhere in Russia - DECEMBER 2007

CURRENTLY FOR SALE

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- USD 2.450, nr 1.764, <a href="http://auction-su.com/-,itemname,160966,id,auctiondetails" target="_blank">http://auction-su.com/-,itemname,160966,id,auctiondetails</a>

- USD 1.400 (starting price), nr 1,246, Dmitry Markov auction

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- USD 3.300, nr 227, Coinsell (on eBay)

- USD 1.400 (starting price), nr 427, Dmitry Markov auction

Thanks William

To add to this, I have 3700025 - also obtained from Mongolia and supposedly awarded to a Mongolian.

Research is pending but no luck (yet).

Besides, I have in my notes (don't recall from where) 3700025 - 3700416 as the known range for Mongolian awardees of red stars.