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    Bob

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    1. Bob,

      Very nice!

      I used to find no Albanian awards for sale, and now ther indeed seems to be a sudden 'rush' of them.

      When you say the state vaults have opened, do you mean that literally?

      This may be a naive question, but as posted above Gold partisan stars have gone for $1000 to $100 in a few weeks!

      Keep in mind... the 100 USD starts are not the same (i.e. Goznak / solid gold) as the 1000 USD stars!

      Also, the gold gold stars are obviously less easily available (though easily found after some good detective work... and then definately not for 1000 - 1600 EURO as some dealers are asking!

      Yes, I believe that a load of items has left the state vault shall we say. Unrewarded but still nice items of course.

    2. Bob:

      That is a stupendous medal you have there. Is it silver or is it nickel? I have been tracing that down for over a year now ever since I got those photos from the 1940's. That medal is on my very short list of decorations to get - I hope i can land one someday.

      Cheers,

      Eric

      To be honest, how do I tell apart silver from nickel? :unsure:

      Assuming silver is heavier, I'd say it isn't silver. I am very impressed by the level of detail of this medal... certainly not your typical crude Albanian stuff.

      I think what you are seeing in Albania is a bit like in some other places, the bank vaults opening up. Will post a gold partisan star (real gold that is, made in USSR!). I've been "hinted at" that soon some Laureat of Albania awards will be coming available as well...

      Let us wait and see :rolleyes:

    3. Notice the difference

      SELLER 1: few months ago

      SOLD ORDER OF THE RED BANNER OF MILITARY VALOR 2nd AWARD BOXED Battushig A 22.2, 1940-1945. Made of silver, gilt and enamels. S/n is 56, four rivets. Great near mint condition with light patina, flawless enamel. Comes with a presentation box, lightly worn. PRICE 3,950.00 [pix1] [pix2]

      SELLER 2 (or 3): current price

      Order of the Red Banner for Military Valor, 2nd award, 1940 type, #56, 1941-1945. Comes with an old issue box, possibly original to the award.

      Silver gilt, enamels, numbered. 50.3 mm tall. The reverse shows Soviet mint mark. Exceptional quality, even if compared to Soviet decoration of the same period.

      Extraordinary, near mint condition. Perfect enamel and completely intact gold plating. The rifle and sword are solidly affixed and are not bent as is often the case on the "first award" Orders of the Red Banner of 1940 type. Original silver screw plate is included.

      Includes an issue box, standard for Mongolian orders, possibly original to the award or of slightly later vintage. Similar to Soviet order issue boxes, it is wrapped in red oilcloth, with padded lid having silk liner, and plywood insert wrapped in paper and silk for mounting the award.

      This order was issued during WW2 as a consequent award to a person who had already been awarded with a single Combat Red Banner. This would have to be one of the highest ranking Mongolian and Soviet military officers. Most of the 1940-45 issues were later replaced with the 1945 model, which explains the extreme scarcity of this award. As an example, many early photos of Marshal Zhukov show him with two Mongolian Red Banners of the 1940 type, whereas his photos and portraits from mid 1950s and later invariably have him wearing the 1945 model.

      Few of the 1940 Red Banner 4th award have come on the market over the last few years (most of them were probably unissued specimens), however this 2nd award is the only one we've ever handled. /See A. Battushig, "Mongolian Orders, Medals & Badges" p. 48, fig. A22.2/

      $11,500.00

    4. Orders, Medals and Decorations of His Royal Highness Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands, Prince of Lippe-Biesterfeld.

      230px-Bernhard1967.jpg

      Below is the large list of decorations from HRH Prince Bernhard. Prince Bernhard is the son of Prince Bernhard of Lippe-Biesterfeld, (younger brother of the reigning Prince of Lippe) and Baroness Armgard of Sierstorpff-Cramm.

      I would like to now if he received Imperial decorations in his time as member of the ruling family of the principality Lippe and after the first world war ( when the family lost Lippe to Poland ) as a well known person in the large aristocratic society of Germany?

      prince.jpg

      Some of his decorations

      Dutch

      Commander in the Military Order of William

      Grand cross in the Order of the Dutch Lion

      Grand master of the Order of the Golden Ark

      Knight in the Order of the Golden Lion of Nassau

      Grand cross in the House order of Oranje

      Knight in the House order of Lippe

      knights of Justice from the Johanitter Order in the Netherlands

      Flying Cross

      War Commemorative Cross with the bars war on land 1940-1945 and Normandy 1944

      Resistance Cross

      Officers' Cross for 35 years of service

      Marriage medal 1937

      Inauguration medal 1948

      Silver Wedding Medal 1962

      Marriage medal 1966

      Inauguration medal 1980

      Cross of Merit from the Dutch Red Cross

      Gold medal of the Royal Netherlands Air Force Society

      Medal of Special Merit of the Royal Netherlands Air Force Society

      Cross of the Royal Netherlands Officers' Reserve Association

      Silver Carnation

      Foreign

      Commander in the Legion of Merit from the United States of America

      Grand cross in the Order of Merit of Argentina

      Grand cross in the Order of the Liberator San Martin of Argentina

      Grand cross in the Leopoldsorde with the swords of Belgium

      Grand cross in the National Order of the Southern Cross of Brazil

      Grand cross in the Order of Aeronautical Merit of Brazil

      Grand cross in the Order of Naval Merit of Brazil

      Chain of the Order of Merit from Chile

      Grand cross in the Order of the Clouds of China

      Grand cross in the Order of Boyaca from Colombia

      Grand cross in the Order of Saint Carlo from Colombia

      Grand cross in the Order of Merit of Germany

      Knight in the Order of the Elephant from Denmark

      Grand cross in the Order of Merit Juan Pablo Duarte of the Dominican Republic

      Grand cross in the Order of Merit of Ecuador

      Collar of the Order of the Queen of Sheba of Ethiopia

      Grand cross in the Order of Solomon's Seal of Ethiopia

      Grand cross in the Order of the White Rose of Finland

      Grand cross in the Order of the Legion of Honour of France

      Commander in the Order of the Academic Palms of France

      Grand cross in the Order of the Redeemer of Greece

      Grand cross in the Order of Victoria from the United Kingdom

      Grand cross in the Most Honorable Order of the Bath ( civil ) from the United Kingdom

      Honorary Knight Grand Cross of the Military Division of the Order of the British Empire

      Honorary Bailiff Grand cross of the Knight Order of het hospital of St. John from Jerusalem of the United Kingdom

      Grand cross in the Order of Mahaputera from Indonesia

      Grand cross in the Order of Pahlavi from Iran

      Grand cross in the Order of Merit of the Republic from Italy

      Grand cross in the National Order of the Ivory Coast

      Grand cross in the Order of the Star of Joegoslavia

      Grand cross in the Order of the Star of Karageorge of southern Slavi?

      Grand cross in the bravery order of Cameroon

      Grand sash in the Order of the Star of Africa from Liberia

      Grand sash in the Order of the Pioneers from Liberia

      Grand cross in the Order of the Oak Crown of Luxembourg

      Honorary Bailiff Grand cross in the Sovereign en Military Order of Malta

      Grand Chain of the Order of the Aztec Eagle of Mexico

      Grand cross in the Order of Ojaswi Rajanya of Nepal

      Grand cross with silver star in the Order of Ruben Dario of Nicaragua

      Grand cross in the Order of Saint Olaf of Norway

      Grand cross from the Decoration of Honor for Merit from Austria

      Chain of the National Order of Merit of Paraquay

      Grand cross in the Order of the Son of Peru

      Grand cross in the Order of the 23th august of Roemenia

      Grand cross in the National Order of the Lion of Senegal

      Grand cross in the Order of Karel III of Spain

      Grand sash in the Order of the Yellow Star of Suriname

      Knight in the House order of Chakry of Thailand

      Grand cross in the Order of Independence from Tunesia

      Chain of the Order of the Liberator of Venezuela

      Knight in the Seraphimorder of Sweden

      Croix the Guerre 1940 avec Palm from Belgium

      Bronze Star of the United States of America

      Croix the Guerre 1939-1945 avec Palm from France

      War Cross 1939 of Czechoslovakia

      War Cross 1939-1945, 1942 from Greece

      Croix the Guerre 1940-1945 avec Palm from Luxembourg

      Defense Medal from the United Kingdom

      France and Germany Star the United Kingdom

      Nice set of awards... any one of us would have gotten them as well if we would be married to the Dutch royal family. THe question is, what did Bernhard do to EARN these awards? Besides:

      - driving around France in his jeep with body guards?

      - collecting money under the table from Lockheed

      - etc.

      As you can guess, I am - although Dutch - not a monarchist.

    5. Looks like a true "fun guy" and that snappy state security leather coat just reinforces the image.

      You say this photo fell out, loose? Sad, for it would be nice to see the document matches with.

      Yep, and couldn't match it pic to any of the booklets (based on stamp) so either it was "loose" in some where or was not a correct pic to begin with...

      I just wish we could research all these Mongolian awards sooner rather than later... just the thought (dreaming): detailed service records, photographs, etc.

    6. AWARD NUMBER DATE

      Distinguished Co-Worker of the State Security Service 163 17/07/1944

      Distinguished Co-Worker of the State Security Service 393 10/09/1973

      Hero of Labour Gold Soyombo 1 1956

      Hero of Labour Gold Soyombo 52 28/11/1962

      Hero of Labour Gold Soyombo 250 1981

      Hero of Labour Gold Soyombo 424 03/04/1986

      Honorious Medal of Labour 9,393 13/11/1956

      Honorious Medal of Labour 9,672 27/09/1956

      Honorious Medal of Labour 10,328 30/08/1956

      Honorious Medal of Labour 10,660 17/10/1951

      Honorious Medal of Labour 11,032 06/11/1956

      Honorious Medal of Labour 16,235 26/06/1964

      Honorious Medal of Labour 16,573 15/07/1965

      Honorious Medal of Labour 17,040 07/07/1966

      Honorious Medal of Labour 23,159 04/08/1976

      Honorious Medal of Labour 24,082 14/07/1960

      Medal We Won 3,443 06/07/1946

      Medal We Won 5,698 16/07/1947

      Medal We Won 9,678 09/07/1946

      Medal We Won 21,406 20/09/1946

      Medal We Won 26,931 28/12/1990

      Medal 25 Years of the MPR 13,958 30/07/1946

      Medal 25 Years of the MPR 14,184 17/08/1946

      Medal 40 Years of the MPR 15,955 15/09/1961

      Medal for Meritorious Service in Battle 854 26/09/1946

      Medal for Meritorious Service in Battle 1,288 16/09/1947

      Medal for Meritorious Service in Battle 3,813 08/07/1947

      Medal for Meritorious Service in Battle 4,312 08/07/1947

      Medal for Meritorious Service in Battle 4,521 11/09/1953

      Medal for Meritorious Service in Battle 5,228 24/07/1954

      Medal for Meritorious Service in Battle 5,514 20/08/1951

      Medal for Meritorious Service in Battle 19,346 24/09/1984

      Medal for Meritorious Service in Battle 20,151 19/07/1985

      Medal for Unselfishness 1,046 29/04/1999

      Medal of Friendship 1,761 12/11/1968

      Medal of Friendship 4,086 1971

      Order for Meritorious Service in Battle 1,049 01/10/1959

      Order for Meritorious Service in Battle 1,552 29/09/1964

      Order for Meritorious Service in Battle 2,146 00/06/1969

      Order for Meritorious Service in Battle 2,695 1972

      Order for Meritorious Service in Battle 2,777 1971

      Order for Meritorious Service in Battle 4,836 15/07/1985

      Order for Meritorious Service in Battle 5,138 03/04/1986

      Order for Meritorious Service in Battle 5,685 27/03/1987

      Order for Meritorious Service in Battle 6,300 09/07/1988

      Order for Meritorious Service in Battle 6,515 04/07/1991

      Order for Meritorious Service in Battle 6,854 29/08/1995

      Order for Meritorious Service in Battle 6,885 28/08/1995

      Order for Meritorious Service in Battle 6,972 29/08/1995

      Order for Meritorious Service in Battle 7,388 15/09/1995

      Order for Meritorious Service in Battle 8,068 09/08/1999

      Order for Meritorious Service in Battle 8,126 09/08/1999

      Order of Combat Red Banner 5,348 09/08/1999

      Order of Mother Heroine - 1st class 5,396 16/02/1965

      Order of Mother Heroine - 1st class 8,128 01/03/1967

      Order of Mother Heroine - 1st class 11,608 13/02/1970

      Order of Mother Heroine - 1st class 16,062 21/02/1972

      Order of Mother Heroine - 1st class 21,460 25/01/1975

      Order of Mother Heroine - 1st class 24,179 20/02/1976

      Order of Mother Heroine - 1st class 31,252 22/02/1978

      Order of Mother Heroine - 1st class 33,062 17/02/1979

      Order of Mother Heroine - 1st class 34,361 23/02/1980

      Order of Mother Heroine - 1st class 43,883 00/03/1984

      Order of Mother Heroine - 1st class 45,130 25/02/1981

      Order of Mother Heroine - 2nd class 543 29/05/1958

      Order of Mother Heroine - 2nd class 9,195 25/06/1958

      Order of Mother Heroine - 2nd class 13,892 10/10/1958

      Order of Mother Heroine - 2nd class 15,709 10/11/1958

      Order of Mother Heroine - 2nd class 23,451 25/02/1960

      Order of Mother Heroine - 2nd class 25,633 02/03/1961

      Order of Mother Heroine - 2nd class 29,451 25/02/1962

      Order of Mother Heroine - 2nd class 36,905 11/02/1964

      Order of Mother Heroine - 2nd class 39,895 04/03/1964

      Order of Mother Heroine - 2nd class 61,823 08/02/1969

      Order of Mother Heroine - 2nd class 77,748 17/02/1972

      Order of Mother Heroine - 2nd class 77,962 17/02/1972

      Order of Mother Heroine - 2nd class 84,187 22/02/1973

      Order of Mother Heroine - 2nd class 116,403 00/00/1978

      Order of Mother Heroine - 2nd class 120,901 27/02/1980

      Order of Mother Heroine - 2nd class 130,167 24/02/1981

      Order of Mother Heroine - 2nd class 145,118 18/08/1985

      Order of Mother Heroine - 2nd class 145,718 1985

      Order of Mother Heroine - 2nd class 187,862 22/05/1995

      Order of Mother Heroine - 2nd class 191,632 00/5/1997

      Order of Mother Heroine - 2nd class 191,640 22/05/1997

      Order of Polar Star 88 06/07/1946

      Order of Polar Star 822 23/09/1946

      Order of Polar Star 1,162 17/10/1951

      Order of Polar Star 1,217 04/12/1955

      Order of Polar Star 1,225 6/09/1944

      Order of Polar Star 1,562 08/07/1947

      Order of Polar Star 1,956 29/11/1955

      Order of Polar Star 2,265 3/11/1945

      Order of Polar Star 2,506 30/12/1956

      Order of Polar Star 2,705 08/12/1948

      Order of Polar Star 2,946 08/07/1950

      Order of Polar Star 1,217 03/12/1955

      Order of Polar Star 3,079 16/01/1957

      Order of Polar Star 3,301 1956

      Order of Polar Star 3,553 08/07/1947

      Order of Polar Star 3,917 30/12/1956

      Order of Polar Star 4,832 06/11/1956

      Order of Polar Star 4,948 08/12/1948

      Order of Polar Star 5,901 20/07/1946

      Order of Polar Star 6,133 16/02/1956

      Order of Polar Star 6,335 24/05/1950

      Order of Polar Star 6,453 10/11/1956

      Order of Polar Star 8,143 15/11/1958

      Order of Polar Star 9,013 14/12/1957

      Order of Polar Star 9,138 14/07/1960

      Order of Polar Star 10,358 25/08/1961

      Order of Polar Star 11,340 18/05/1965

      Order of Polar Star 11,611 00/03/1966

      Order of Polar Star 13,376 01/12/1969

      Order of Polar Star 14,236 03/07/1971

      Order of Polar Star 14,292 03/06/1971

      Order of Polar Star 14,718 12/03/1973

      Order of Polar Star 15,860 03/07/1971

      Order of Polar Star 18,389 19/10/1976

      Order of Polar Star 19,735 01/12/1979

      Order of Polar Star 25,483 03/04/1980

      Order of Polar Star 26,734 19/11/1990

      Order of Polar Star 27,017 03/07/1991

      Order of Polar Star 28,321 18/04/1995

      Order of Polar Star 29,034 29/11/1998

      Order of Polar Star 29,893 6-xx-2000

      Order of Polar Star 31,529 21/11/2001

      Order of Polar Star 185/1804 1936

      Order of Suche Baatar 1 1941

      Order of Suche Baatar 24 1946

      Order of Suche Baatar 31 1949

      Order of Suche Baatar 158 1957

      Order of Suche Baatar 158 24/10/1957

      Order of Suche Baatar 166 29/05/1957

      Order of Suche Baatar 340 1961

      Order of Suche Baatar 341 1961

      Order of Suche Baatar 342 1961

      Order of Suche Baatar 343 1961

      Order of Suche Baatar 344 1961

      Order of Suche Baatar 423 1962

      Order of Suche Baatar 423 28/11/1962

      Order of Suche Baatar 470 13/12/1963

      Order of Suche Baatar 541 1966

      Order of Suche Baatar 542 1966

      Order of Suche Baatar 558 1966

      Order of Suche Baatar 586 1968

      Order of Suche Baatar 588 1968

      Order of Suche Baatar 589 1968

      Order of Suche Baatar 591 1968

      Order of Suche Baatar 612 10/11/1968

      Order of Suche Baatar 642 12/08/1969

      Order of Suche Baatar 684 15/10/1969

      Order of Suche Baatar 692 1969

      Order of Suche Baatar 803 05/07/1971

      Order of Suche Baatar 919 1971

      Order of Suche Baatar 922 1971

      Order of Suche Baatar 923 1971

      Order of Suche Baatar 924 1971

      Order of Suche Baatar 925 1971

      Order of Suche Baatar 927 1971

      Order of Suche Baatar 928 1971

      Order of Suche Baatar 931 1971

      Order of Suche Baatar 932 1971

      Order of Suche Baatar 933 1971

      Order of Suche Baatar 937 1971

      Order of Suche Baatar 989 1973

      Order of Suche Baatar 1,123 1975

      Order of Suche Baatar 1,255 14/12/1975

      Order of Suche Baatar 1,335 1978

      Order of Suche Baatar 1,404 22/10/1980

      Order of Suche Baatar 1,412 02/12/1980

      Order of Suche Baatar 1,462 08/06/1981

      Order of Suche Baatar 1,463 1981

      Order of Suche Baatar 1,465 1981

      Order of Suche Baatar 1,491 09/07/1981

      Order of Suche Baatar 1,530 1981

      Order of Suche Baatar 1,532 1981

      Order of Suche Baatar 1,548 1981

      Order of Suche Baatar 1,562 1981

      Order of Suche Baatar 1,715 1986

      Order of the Red Banner of Labour 621 17/11/1951

      Order of the Red Banner of Labour 1,039 16/02/1956

      Order of the Red Banner of Labour 1,423 24/12/1959

      Order of the Red Banner of Labour 2,329 22/10/1960

      Order of the Red Banner of Labour 2,845 01/02/1960

      Order of the Red Banner of Labour 3,744 24/11/1973

      Order of the Red Banner of Labour 3,809 28/04/1980

      Order of the Red Banner of Labour 4,452 28/01/1975

      Order of the Red Banner of Labour 4,835 22/12/1978

      Order of the Red Banner of Labour 5,050 09/07/1981

      Order of the Red Banner of Labour 5,826 00/00/1987

      Order of the Red Banner of Labour 6,238 15/04/1993

      Title of Merit 607 26/06/1981

      Udarnik 2,203 31/10/1947

      Virgin Lands 1,187 24/10/1979

      Virgin Lands 1,300 24/10/1979

      Virgin Lands 3,074 16/12/1982

    7. Updating my numbers database... now also trying to date Udarnik. Below number seems to come clear from one document in this thread.

      Udarnik 2,203 31/10/1947

      Vatjan / FJCP - could you have a very close look at the documents you posted and see if equally there is a number which probably (?) correlates to an Udarnik and below it a date.

      FJCP - the document you showed, it belonged to the badge you posted right before or did you acquire them seperately? The document APPEARS to refer to Udarnik 366... and then a date. Am I correct?

    8. I'm doing a thorough review of my collection and came across a border guard group I had.

      I thought I had posted it in the past already but can't find the thread so here we go again.

      It may be helpful as it allows to date this border guard badge.

      - E06 - the best border guard... not numbered but document dated 15-5-1990

      - The soviet border badge... not numbered / undated (also on doc)

      - A51 - medal 40 years victory of khalkhin gol dated on 29-8-1980

      - A54 - 60 years armed forces... also unnumbered but doc dated on 14-7-1981

      Hypothesis thus that either my friend transfered to border guards or was in their for a while and these border guard badges were not just distributed "freely" but required either tenure or special achievement.

      Note, on the E06 the screw clearly indicated made in moscow. The screw is identical to the screw on the soviet border badge (Pobeda - Moscow) except that it is more brass like rather than nickel.

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