Bob

State prize front

And here's the pic

- Medal of the State's Prize of the MPR (Marshal Choibalsan variant in original box - A6.1)

- Distinguished Herdsman of the MPR (very rare unnumbered version - J03)

- 4 orders of the red combat banner in beautiful condition (1: 2218 2:294 3: 129 4: 10)

- Medal for unselfishness (nr 188 A40.2)

- Medal of Friendship (nr 11852)

- Medal Glory of the Virgin Lands (low number: 00031; A52.1)

Will try to upload a picture in a minute.

Bob

Does anybody have a good tip for an online shop (in Europe - preferably Germany) selling the typical tools of the trade:

- plastic bags to safely store / ship medals

- good magnifying glass

- small blacklight

Thanks,

Bob

There are also some ugly Mongolian "hero of labour" on eBay... wearer copies as well I guess. New to me that they'd be 1st, 2nd and 3rd class.

Maybe we have been offered the same set - for me the price is right and I'm fortunate enough to have the money readily available, if the quality turns out to be good of course. Will see in a week or so (along with some other items) - would be a nice addition to my collection.

Maybe they are the new/current types-- can you post scans of them here, or the links? Do you have the Battushig book on Mongolian awards?

I haven't seen Mongolian or North Korean fakes-- yet. North Vietnamese items are being cranked out for the tourist trade.

Sad to say, Red Chinese items I would have to say must easily be 9 out of 10 are crude fakes or fantasy frauds-- despite the fact that (probably because of the language difficulties) there is virtually ZERO "collector market" for them. The same fraudmasters are also churning out Nationalist Chinese fakes/fantasies-- and they are usually offered together, en masse, and by a non-amazing non-coincidence on the same suspensions with (VERY pouplar) what appear to be snips of plastic shower curtains as "ribbons."

Examples:

http://cgi.ebay.com/MONGOLEI-Polarsternord...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/MONGOLEI-Orden-fuer-Ve...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/MONGOLEI-Orden-SukheBa...1QQcmdZViewItem

My copy of Battishug's book is in the mail and should be getting it any day now. I'm in the process of purchasing a complete set of 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th Mongolian Order of Red Combat Banner and obviously fake or not is the crucial issue.

With the above examples, they are presented in a Herfurth code which is not in the Herfurth book.

Hi all,

Mongolian orders / medals collecting is of course quite a niche area, does this also mean that fakes are currently still virtually unheard of? Especially for the more rare orders?

Example: on eBay you can regularly find auctions for orders mentioned in Herfurth but a new "most recent" type... these are fakes or I'm just not up to date?

Bob

Igor now has the Battushig book listed again, if anyone is interested.

I am trying to establish contact with Dr. Battushig and will advise the forum of my success (or not). May try to visit him this summer.

Hello Ed - have you succeeded? I have... at least, that is my impression. I'd appreciate getting in touch with you to make sure I am dealing with the genuine Dr. B and am not being lead into a scam (since it involves a potential sale of orders / medals).

Email: bobinmunich@hotmail.com