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    RRicardo

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    1. Ricardo I seriously doubt any of the medals shown are fakes. I have done a bit of research since yesterday and have seen up to 4 Bremen medals which all differ from each other in some small way. I would say this is due to different manufacturers as I am sure this medal was still being made for sometime after the war much like various other medals and badges of the time. As for the flat style ribbon ring I also saw pictures of a few medal with round rings which mine has. I also believe that these medals are much later production and could have been made for replacements to original medals that have been damaged. To call the medal a reproduction due only to the fact it does not have a flat style ribbon ring is flawed thinking as the ring is not an integral part of the medal itself. My medal as shown is on a small medal bar and does appear much newer than the EK next to it but as I said it could have been replaced at a later date due to damage to the original. I also have another medal bar where the EK ring is not original but this does not make the actual medal or indeed the medal bar a fake. There are a number of reasons why ribbon rings could be changed.

      I stress this is speculation but I do believe all the examples shown are indeed original medals.

      Phil

      Hi Phil.

      I agree with You, recently a friend show me some pictures from a WWI german General group and I'm surprise to see various medals with replaced catches and suspension rings. My conclusion about it was the General had wear his medal too much and times to times someone was damaged and periode repaired.

      I don't believe your or mine medals are reproductions only due ring format or some little production differences. The only medals I think may be suspects I find on the net was the two samples I had posted above, but I not discarded the possibility they are only original periode variations.

      I sincerely like to see too a reconized modern reproduction to observe the differences from a periode one.

      Regards,

      Ricardo

    2. These are original awarded pieces:

      There are several differences.

      For example compare the 9 in 1914 with the 9 in the other Hanseatenkreuze.

      The main difference is the upper ring. Awarded originals have a flat oval ring, see the embedded picture.

      Uwe

      Hi Uwe,

      Yes, I observed a little difference in the 9 format between mine and Phill's crosses and mine has a flat upper ring. But wat it means, one is correct and other none or it's only periode production differences?

      Regards,

      Ricardo

    3. I have done a bit of looking at other crosses after seeing this thread and I believe your cross is fine and matches quite a few I saw. Mine would appear to be of later manufacture than yours thats all. To be honest I dont really believe these crosses are heavily faked if they are indeed faked but I will most certainly stand corrected if someone can show me some fakes.

      Phil

      Hi Phil,

      Thank You very much for your pictures and opinion. I observed You have aproximatelly the same opinion and may be doubts about theses crosses I have. I posted this cross here because it was questioned in another forum, but the arguments are not very consistents for me and I think differences pointeds are only due different makers or periodes. I'm posting here pictures from two crosses I think are reproductions. Observe the differences from mine and your example.

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      Regards,

      Ricardo

    4. Ricardo,

      Welcome to GMIC! :cheers:

      That's a fine example of a Hammer & S?hne '55' with a great looking patina.

      You do know that one EK2 is never enough.... :rolleyes:

      Regards - Danny

      Hi Danny,

      You're sure, I'm thinking to have others EK's in the near future.

      Regards,

      Ricardo

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