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Many thanks . For the present we remain in a state of uncertainty . PS I have come across a type very clear

A wellknown English dealer is selling this ACB mm V. Wilhelm . Is this firm universally unquestionable as war time maker or still subject for discussion ? Many thanks

John The badge is very intriguing . The sw is not completely segmented but the deck gun remind Zimmermann . IMO the possible attribution to a specific maker comes only from guesses ; we have not a definite interpretation . As usual Gordon tackles the problem in a way very interesting, of course the findings comes from the premises . The chosen methodology detects the solution more probable . Just now I don't see other way out giorgio

Dear Gordon I wellcome your explanations The possible attributions shrink to one . However the employment of an existing die to produce zinc badges doesn't rule out Zimmermann . According to your book Zimmermann produced zinc badges (I have never seen a specimen). But is possible to make use of the same die for two materials (bronze and zinc) ? The two materials have different metallurgic property . Was the technology of the time in working order to die indifferently the two materials ? If that's the case I don't explaine myself the reason why Mayer has replaced the dies. I have not a ready answer yours sincerely giorgio

Hi Gordon I am puzzled about this badge . F&B , Mayer , .... . Can you help me ? many thanks giorgio

Thanks so much for clearing up your point . I hope I am not trying your patience if I ask you to tell me where I could examine a marked badge in order to have at my disposal a well-grounded standard . best regards

What you say sounds interesting .Actually I have never heard of Ubadges produced by B&Co. I wonder whether your attibution is due to the existence of mm badges or to the presence of details , as for instance , the head of the eagle , that are distintive of B&Co firm All the best

I should like to hear your opinino on this badge , made in tombac , unmarked many thanks

Opinions on this badge ? many thanks giorgio

This badge , tombac , fire gilding, looks like a K&Q type but the pin system is very uncommon for this maker . I am puzzled . Opinions ? All the best giorgio

Speaking of the hollow badges , I should like to hear your opinion about this badge Many thanks giorgio

Perfect . And the Schickle type showed at TH site sometime ago ?

Hi the same badge solid back giorgio

This type of badge in the pattern solid back is generally accepted as a wartime piece (detlev, weitze) . The pattern hollow back is uncommon . Can we recognised it original ? regards giorgio

the same pin setup

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A guy offers me this badge . I would like to hear your opinion Many thanks giorgio

The badge without cover regards giorgio

I have come across this badge . Maybe another Cave Creek production regards giorgio

Hi Jan Sorry . I have not the badge . giorgio

Many thanks . I agree , the badge looks like the fake helmet type

I woul like to hear your opinion on this badge Many thanks giorgio

The obverse looks like F&B segmented swastika (uncommon pattern) , the pin system is unusual for F&B. The number is a "4" . Type 4 that appears in the S&L catalogue comes under the Schwerin category . Along time back J. Arne has shown an UBoot badge . tombac, mm 4 on the pin ,similar in shape to the Juncker type . I am really at a loss. Last but not least some fixed points have recently been questioned : see the Deumer affair , not yet settled . That's the reason why , in this case, I don't feel I should give my opinion either favourable or adverse on the matter . Many thanks for your advice Best regards giorgio

I am very uncertain about this badge . What do you think ? All the best giorgio