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OK, time for a eye check. Is this real or fake and if fake, why? John

Let me work on that bit of information then and see what I can find. Probably right, not that easy to take it apart. John

Out of curiosity Eduardo, could you post an image of the clock's movement, that is, the internal hardware? I do not think it is very difficult to take the case off so we could look at that part of this interesting puzzle. If it is a problem, not a big deal, but clock movements can be keys to resolving such issues. John

Opinions on this RS MS badge? John

Reverse as requested.

And the SHuCo

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Could it have been this? John

Any ideas on what this outfit is? John

Thanks again Rick. Then what you are seeing is no Medahuia medal on his mounting even though he could have worn it due to the photo of him with the breast star previously and the ribbon might be the Hungarian Merit Cross from what others are seeing. For sure, he was found in his room with a mounting of 5 medals from the books I have researched and a red medal on a ribbon plus his EK1. Besides his uniform, it is not recorded what he was actually wearing on his uniform--probably the 4 ribbons on a bar that we see in this photo and maybe the EK1 although the records imply that the EK1 was not being worn but was with the other medals in some location in his room. The two rings were also apparently with the medals and can be seen on his hands in this photo. John

In this famous photo of Captain Langsdorff during burial services for his men in Uruguay, it looks like more that 5 however. Maybe 6 but I think 5. John

It is my belief he wore as medals the following 5: EK2 ,Hamburg Hanseatic Cross, Hindenberg Honor Cross with Swords, Long Service Cross or crosses (since he could wear 2 but I think I can only see one) and the Medahuia medal from what I can see and from what others have felt looking at the mounting. Under this was the EK1 and under that it looks like the Hungarian Regency Order of Merit as the best guess on the pillow. John

These are the images from U-tube--it is my understanding that the decoration was red--so perhaps the center of the cross is red if it is Hungarian? No mention of the color of the ribbon. John

We know now what the breast insignia is for Captain Langsdorff, but still not sure about the cross on the funeral pillow. Do not think the Admiral series will help with Captain Langsdorff and I do not think any of the rank lists have decorations, at least mine do not for 1938 and beyond. John

Thanks Rick, I have added additional photos of the decoration on the funeral pillow plus an interesting sidenote about the officer holding the pillow, Paul Ascher--Gunnery Officer in Graf Spee who later escaped and when returned to Germany was assigned to Bismarck. http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=3052...mp;#entry289374 John

In the right hand photo, the officer holding the pillow is Paul Ascher who was gunnery officer in Graf Spee. He escaped back to Germany and was assigned to Bismarck in which he was serving when that ship was sunk. John

2 more images of the funeral pillow.

The photo is of Captain Hans Langsdorff while on the staff of Admiral Bohen, 1936-1937 embarked in Graf Spee in Spanish waters. Does anybody know the cross and ribbon at the bottom of Captain Langsdorff's funeral pillow in Buenos Aires, Dec. 1939? John

Not sure if it is related to this gigantic breast star on his uniform. I note of no other photo of Captain Langsdorff where he is wearing this star. John

Forgot about that thread and I started it! Anyway, new images with new angles to look at for this badge. John

Does anybody know what the large cross with ribbon on the funeral pillow might be? The one above it is the Iron Cross First Class of course, just want clarification on the one attached to the large ribbon below it. John

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