Hauptmann

How about these?

Many thanks in advance!

Dan

How about this one?

MM 25 is: Arbeitsgemeinschaft der Graveur-, Gold und Silberschmeide-Innungen, Hanau.

Dan

Here ya go!

Dan

Just found this and thought it might be of interest:

David Niven as a 2nd Lt w/ the Highland Light Infantry (1932)

back row far right.

Being Scottish, Niven requested assignment to the Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders or the Black Watch; then jokingly wrote on the form, as his third choice, "anything but the Highland Light Infantry" (because the HLI wore tartan trews rather than kilts). He was assigned to the HLI, and his comment was known in the regiment. Thus Niven did not enjoy his time in the Army. He served with the HLI for two years in Malta, and then for a few months in Dover. In Malta, he became friends with Roy Urquhart, future commander of the British 1st Airborne Division.

David Niven with first wife and son

James David Graham Niven

born 1.3.1910 Belgrave Mansions,London

son of William Edward Graham and Henrietta Julia (nee de Gacher) Niven

father Lt,Berkshire Yeomanry killed Gallipoli 21.8.1915 age 37

mother remarried Sir Thomas Comyn-Platt

educated Stowe and RMC Sandhurst

Highland Light Infantry (2Lt)

left Army 1933

film actor since 1935

Rifle Brigade 1939

Phantom 1940s

ended war as Lieutenant Colonel

married Primula Rollo 1940 (2 sons)

married Hjordis Tersmeden 1948 (adopted 2 daughters)

biography The Moons a Balloon

died 28.7.1983

Chateau dOex Cemetery,Switzerland

Dan

Hi Windu. Congratulations! A nice example with just a bit of been there, done that on the iron core. How bout a shot of the reverse?

Here's to many more!

Dan

Spot on, by the way Dan, I meant to type 'Concur', finger fault local I'm afraid !!

Cheers

Bob

Many thanks Bob! And no problem re: the concur. I'm actually struggling with a cut on one of my fingers I got at work... hurts like all get out and is making typing a bit tough at the mo... and for me that's saying alot as I'm a speed typist from many years of working in the publishing industry... 135 wpm on my best days but not tonight. Having to be really careful not to make errors.

Dan

Now all ya'll need is the staff cars to put them on. Seriously though... beautiful and not often seen items in superb condition! Congrats to you both!

Dan

And please know I'm not trying to be harsh here... just instructional. I pray you don't have alot in these items. If you do I'm very sorry... but this is what we try to do here is educate others so they don't obtain such items unless it is purchased as a replica or fantasy item. And as with such items it's generally small details like this that trip them up and show what they truly are.

To be honest, if I saw that goblet for sale for say less then $40 or thereabouts and had the money burning a hole in my pocket it might be something I'd pick up to pop on a shelf for a display. But I'd know what it was, would make no bones about it and would use it to educate other collections. I do have copies in my collections and that's how I use them. It's neat, just like copies of WW1 or WW2 Steins, etc., but they are what they are... no more, no less and again as long as they are purchased with that in mind for a reasonable amount and not misrepresented then no problem... at least IMHOP. It's a shame such items are out there... because they are so misused, but they'll never go away as long as someone can make a buck with them. So best we can do is educate ourselves to try and prevent anyone from buying them under false pretenses and for a lot of money.

I think it's great you posted them, and that they can be used to educate others. That's always a good thing. Again I pray you don't have alot in them. But if you do, remember we've all been there, done that and lost money on copies, fantasy items, etc. It happens... but as with all mistakes you learn from them.

Dan

A slight exception... a DAF finial... not a silver mark but an RZM marking (ie: passed quality control):

But these would have also been up on flag poles and not seen as readily as an item that would be displayed on a desk or shelf such as with those "EK trophies".

Dan

A couple of examples. A torch holder from the 1936 Olympics. All markings are under the top section:

An ashtray, also from those games:

I'm no expert... but I was in TR for a lot of years. Was also at John Angolia's home/collection several times as well as tons of museums, read tons of refs, etc., and have NEVER seen such goblets for award of the EK. I know at times, as with Richtofen such items may have been privately ordered but I've never seen one that was officially awarded by either the German gov't at the time or the Luftwaffe.

On top of that... I have also NEVER seen such a mark on the obverse of any piece such as that eagle. There were quality control organizations for both the NSDAP and the military forces that assured that all items were manufactured/produced in the proper way. In the early days there was alot of Kitsch (often inferior products) marketed with Hitler's image and symbols of the party by folks trying to make a quick buck based on the growing popularity of the nazi's. After the nazi's came to power they quickly put an end to such things. And in the case of this eagle, this is the symbol of one brance, ie, the Air Force of the nazi regime. There is simply now way that such an item would have passed inspection. If it did get out no self respecting member of the Luftwaffe would have displayed such an item. "If" it was indeed an original piece privately purchased for either a unit presentation, one from members of a unit to a respected colleague or even an individual awarding one's self a trophy to commemorate such an occasion, to have such a mark on the national symbol of the Luftwaffe would have been unacceptable. It would have been pointed out, assuming it got as far as the store shelf, and sent back to be melted down as a faulty item. Such marks tended to be, as stated, on the underside of the base, the reverse of awards, etc., and not on the front or other easily visible place.

Just my two pfennigs worth but I'm fairly sure others here familiar with the TR will concur.

Dan

Good finds Rick! Look fine to me.

Dan

Thanks guys! Deeply appreciate all the good comments and confirmation. Was just having a senior moment and wanted to reconfirm.

Ya'll are the best!

Dan

I'm not positive but from what I've found this should be a Canadian General Service button from 1924 to 1946.

Dan

Thanks guys! Many thanks for the confirmation. I just wanted to make sure I hadn't gotten any mixed up with some copies I keep separate.

Many thanks!

Dan

Many thanks for any and all help.

Dan

Just need to confirm if these are good... I believe they are but want to make sure:

Just found this... goes into it in much more depth.

http://www.samilitaryhistory.org/vol046fm.html

Dan

Peter, this reminds me of a documentary (I think it was Secrets Of The Dead-Day Of The Zulu) I saw on the battles of Isandlwana and Rorkes Drift. From what I remember they had found many cartridges on the battlefield that were damaged and they talked about how they had the problems you describe. They also discussed how the ammunition came in boxes that were rather difficult to open without a special tool (If I recall correctly) and this caused problems in keeping up the supply of ammo needed by the troops which all added to the defeat at Isandlwana. I'll have to look through my collection of discs and see if I can find it again. I've always had an interest in these battles ever since seeing Zulu when I was much younger.

Dan

Good Morning Dan.......

The first picture is mine but I am afraid to say the GCMG is not........ Have not won the Lottery yet.......

Take a look at this forum thread: http://www.britishme...=46638&start=15

Just scroll down a bit......

Mike

Hi Mike,

I tried to go there but needed to register. So I tried... it kept not accepting it saying I needed to choose an interest although I had... medal collector. Finally I had to choose another, researcher, before it would accept my registration but now it says the administrators have to approve the registration. So until that happens I can't see the thread. I'm hoping if they do approve that it won't be a problem for them to change the interest to medal collector.

Dan

Hi Mike. Stunning pieces... are they yours? If so you are indeed a lucky man. I love all the British Orders, especially the breast stars but the one neck Order that I truly LOVE is the C.B.E. I think that is the most beautiful blue enamel they used on those. I have just received a nice copy from a friend as an early Christmas present and it's as close as I'm likely to come, at least for some time. I had a cased M.B.E. for years but sadly had to let it go along with the best of my small British collection in order to get some other pieces I wanted to get a couple of years ago. But hoping against hope to be able to get examples of the M.B.E., O.B.E. and C.B.E. at some point down the road.

Dan

Kim and I have many all time favorite British shows we've watched over the years on PBS here in the states. One of them is Yes, Minister/Yes, Prime Minister. I have the whole series on DVD and just recently went through and watched them all. One of my favorites is the one about the civil service receiving honours. Here's a couple of my favorite quotes:

(Talking about the abbreviations of the honours CMG, KCMG and GCMG)

Bernard Woolley: "Of course in the service, CMG stands for Call Me God. And KCMG for Kindly Call Me God."

Jim Hacker: "What does GCMG stand for?"

Bernard Woolley: "God Calls Me God."

Jim Hacker: "When did a civil servant last refuse an honour?"

Bernard Woolley: "Well I think there was somebody in the Treasury that refused a Knighthood."

Jim Hacker: "Good God. When?"

Bernard Woolley: "I think it was 1496."

Jim Hacker: "Why?"

Bernard Woolley: "He had already got one."

Here's the episode online:

http://www.free-tv-v...?id=Orf3b0ShUNE

For the second quote go to about 5:50 and it's in a great conversation there, then the first quote is in one between the Minister and Bernard at about 15:50. But the entire episode is very funny with lots of mentions of Orders and Honours.

Sir Nigel Barnard Hawthorne (Sir Humphrey Appleby) after receiving the C.B.E.

Sir Paul Eddington (The Minister/Prime Minister) was also awarded a C.B.E. but I could not find a picture of him with it. Both these fine actors have since passed on. Derek Fowlds who played Bernard is happily still with us.

Have fun!

Dan