Hauptmann

A couple more...

So come on folks... get those cameras out and start getting creative! Would love to see more here!

Dan

And just for the heck of it I never popped these in here but did them in a separate thread. But in the interests of hopefully kicking things into a higher gear...

Time to get this thread active again.

I've been workin' on the railroad...

....how to update the very first post? I want to update the Table of Contents

Hi Bryan,

First off... fantastic collection and great photos! Excellent job!

Second... to update your page simply go down to the bottom of whatever post you want to change and hit the edit tab over on the right hand side. Then when the edit page comes up you'll see again down at the bottom right hand side another set of tabs for "save changes" and "use full editor". You can use the full editor if you want to change pictures and then save the changes you make. But if it's just text you want to change the first edit tab will allow you to do that.

Hope this helps.

Dan

Many thanks!

Dan

Hi all,

Not generally into U.S. but need a valuation on this if possible.

This is the clearest shot I could get of the marking with my camera. Will have to redo this one with my scanner next time I pull that out.

Also, I got a copy of the NRA Man At Arms Gun And Sword Collector Vol. 32 No. 2 2010 with an interesting article on the 1895 Nagant's. It talks about how the officers pistol's (double action) are much more common than the soldier's pistol (single action) and how some of the officer's models have been "converted" to only function with single action ie: faking the soldier's model and thus fetching more money. It shows what to look for to try to avoid this situation. To be honest, I never realized there were two types like this nor that this was being done. Needless to say it's well worth it if you can get ahold of the article. Although it states that some collectors believe a very small number of these were converted during WWII to save on ammo all the examples they'd examined were modern conversions made to deceive. From what I understand only three small pieces have to be removed from the hammer to convert these and unless you know what to look for you could end up spending more for what ends up being a common piece.

You basically have to remove the grip and sideplate and you'll then be able to see the difference. The officer's model has a notch on the hammer for a small piece of spring steel, a hole for a screw and another small piece that all go together, whereas the soldier's model has none of these on the hammer.

So if you ever come across one of the "soldier's models" take care, do a bit of investigation re: asking if you can see inside the side plate and check it for authenticity. Of course if they don't want to show you then I think I'd just walk away.

Anyhow for those of us who are not NRA members you can probably still find these at a local bookstore or order one through same. There's a picture of two Nagant's on the front cover, one in it's holster... you can't miss it!

Dan

Finally managed to get a holster for my Nagant:

Hoping perhaps someone has more of these to share. I'd love to see more. The examples posted so far are terrific! I'd still love to get a railroad car plaque and some from official buildings as well one of these days. So if you've got more please consider sharing them with us.

Dan

So does anyone have any new buckles to post? Would love to see more. Still hoping to be able to get a belt for my officers buckle at some point down the road plus perhaps add some variations and such to make another sub collection.

Dan

Figured this was another good thread that deserves to be continued. Surely someone out there has some more Soviet military toys to post. I for one would love to see more. I'm still hoping to add some but so far none have come my way. So show em' if ya got em'!

Dan

On awarding orders and medals of the USSR commanding structure, the Red Army of Workers and Peasants' Red Army and the Border Guard, command personnel and family members of employees of hospitals.For exemplary performance of combat tasks of the Government and for displaying courage and bravery award:

..... Aleksandronets Paul G.

November 17, 1939

Many thanks on the additional info but where on the documents does this match to? If you could post the number of the post, etc., that would be a great help. And as I don't read but a very few words of Russian any additional info on this or the Bravery medal documents would be deeply appreciated... that is if there is anything else there that might have been missed.

Thanks!

Dan

1. Last name, name, and patrionymic: Aleksandronets, Pavel Grigorevich

2. Rank: Sergeant

3. Duty position: Gun Commander – 45mm Anti-Tank Platoon, 1 Rifle Battalion, 117 Rifle Regiment, 23 Rifle Division

4. Born: 1916

5. Nationality: Belorussian

6. Party membership: n/a

7. Previous combat: since 10.03.1944

8. Wounds or shell-shock: n/a

9. Time in Red Army: since 19.10.1943

10. Inducted by: Loev Regional Military Commissariat, Gomel Oblast

11. Previous awards: n/a

12. Home of record: Gomel Oblast, Love Region, village of Rudnya-Kamenka. Wife – Anna Adamovna Aleksandronets

While repelling enemy counterattacks during the capture of Eberswald* and other population centers from 24.4 through 2.5.45, 45mm gun crew commander Sergeant P.G. Aleksandronets and his crew destroyed four enemy machinegun firing positions, two bunkers, one armored personnel carrier, and as many as 20 enemy soldiers, thus enabling the advance of our infantry, the repulsion of the enemy counterattack, and the resultant capture of the town.

For courage and valor displayed in battle, he is deserving of the Order of the Red Star.

Signed Commander, 117 Luchinets Order of Kutuzov Rifle Regiment, Hero of the Soviet Union Lieutenant Colonel Zinokurov on 13 May 1945

Endorsed Commander, 23 Rifle Division, General-Major Bakhrameev on 14 May 1945

Awarded the Order of the Red Banner by Order 138/N of the 23 Rifle Division dated 21.5.1945. Verified by Chief of Personnel, Captain (?) on 22 May 1945

*[trans: name may be different due to transliteration]

1. Last name: Aleksandronets

2. Name and patrionymic: Pavel Grigorevich

3. Rank: Reserve Sergeant

4. Gender: Male

5. Birthyear: 1916

6. Birthplace: Gomel Oblast, Laev Region, village of R. Kameneva, "May Day" Selsovet

7. Party membership: n/a

8. Education: elementary

9. Nationality: Belorussian

10. Time in Red Army: 11.1943-7.1946

11. Place of service at awarding: 117 Rifle Regiment, 23 Rifle Division – Gun Commander

12. Place of work at present: Gomel Oblast, Loev Region, "Star" Collective Farm – collective farmer

13. Home address: Gomel Oblast, Laev Region, village of Rudnya-Kameneva

14. Awards:

Designation Serial Number Awarding Organization

Red Star 2.183.801 23 Rifle Division dated 21.5.45

Liberation of Warsaw Medal Edict dated 9.6.45

Capture of Berlin Medal Edict dated 9.6.45

Victory over Germany Medal Edict dated 9.5.45

Verified by Love Regional Military Commissariat, Gomel Oblast, Administrative Services Captain Leiter on 14 February 1947

Belorussian Private Pavel Grigorevich Aleksandronets (b.1916) was awarded the Combat Service Medal for Combat in the Battle of Khalkhin-Gol, according to an Edict dated 17 November 19[trans: illegible, however probably 1939]. He was bestowed the decoration 13.5.1941. At the time, he was responsible for the fuel and lubricants storage site, 37 Independent (?) Tank Division. He had entered service in 1937 and was a non-Communist Party member. He was a farmer in the Rudnya-Kameneva village, Gomel Oblast.

On behalf of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet USSR, I award the following decorations for exemplary mission accomplishment of the Command’s missions in the struggle against the German invaders and for displaying valor and courage:

The Order of the Red Star

7. Sergeant Pavel Grigorevich Aleksandronets – Gun Commander, 45mm AT Platoon, 117 Rifle Division

Signed Commander, 23 Rifle Division, Colonel Porkhachev