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Hi all,

This is one of two very generous gifts I've just received from a couple of friends. I've just posted the other, a Bravery medal and now for the ORS. As before, first I'll post the award, then the research and finally the translation:

Documents pertaining to Bravery Medal #3.285.061

1. Award card

Last name: Mil

Name and Patrionymic: Fedor Gerasimovich

Rank: Private

Sex: Male

Birthyear: 1921

Birthplace: Kamenets-Podolsk Oblast, Satanovskii Region, village of Solomna

Party Membership: n/a

Education: elementary

Nationality: Ukrainian

Service in the Red Army: 8.41-11.45

Place of service and duty position at time of awarding: Driver – 677 Rifle Regiment, 409 Rifle Division, 2 Ukrainian Front

Place of service and duty position at the current time: Odessa Factory of the October Revolution – Driver

Home of Record: Odessa, Red Street #141, Apt 25

14. Awards

Award Serial Number Awarder

Bravery Medal 282.559 409 Rifle Division dated 12.4.45

Bravery Medal 3.285.061 677 Rifle Regiment dated 24.4.45

Victory over Germany Edict dated 9.5.45

Verified by Guards Lieutenant Colonel Denisenko on 1 November 1947

2. Award Citation

24 April 1945 Active Duty

On behalf of the Praesidium of the Supreme Soviet USSR, I award the Bravery Medal to:

10. Light Machinegunner, 9 Rifle Company Private Fedor Gerasimovich Mil who on 29.3.43 in fighting for the Perbet settlement (Czechoslovakia) while under heavy enemy rifle and machinegun fire supported the rifle company’s attack, thus enabling its success.

Born 1912, Ukrainian, non-party member, in Patriotic War since 8.11.44. No wounds. Inducted 24.8.44 by the Satanov RMC, Kamenets-Podolsk Oblast. Awarded Bravery Medal by Order 015/n of the 409RD dated 12.4.45. Home of Record: Kamenets-Podolsk Oblast, Stanovskii Region, village of Solomna. Father – Mil, Gerasim Matveevich.

Signed Commander, 677 Order of Suvorov Rifle Regiment, Major Borodin and Chief of Staff Captain Veklenko

Hi all,

Just received two terrific gifts from a couple of friends. Will post the other, an ORS next but wanted to start with this one. So without further ado... first the medal and then the research:

Took the liberty of resizing and reposting for you. Hope it helps!

Dan

Come on folks... let's not let this thread go idle again. I just know there are more rare goodies out there just waiting for their moment in the spotlight.

Hoping to see more soon!

Dan

Great pieces Tom... showing honest age and wear... which means if they could only talk the tales they could tell. Much better than pieces that stayed on shelves in a store or in a drawer after award as those may only have seen an occassional parade or special occassion.

Thanks for sharing!

Dan

Thanks for helping me "round out" the post.

Regards

Brian

Hi Brian,

Happy to help out. Great piece you found... thanks for sharing. It's one I'd like to get some day along with the 1st class.

I found what I think is a better pic of the ribbon and just popped that one in place of the other.

Dan

Non-commbatant ribbon:

Dan

I believe it's a JU87 Stuka Dive Bomber.

Dan

hello,

be carefull, on the first picture th chin strap is an ukrainian type, and the admirals visor caps are asian reproductions!

Many apologies to all on the above, especially the repro ones... only ones I could find in a hurry on the web to show examples of the "scrambled egg" types. I'm not heavy into the headgear/uniforms... only have a few pieces and none of the higher ups. There's a ton of info available and I'm sure alot of that is here on GMIC if you do a search. I know there's also (or at least used to be) a site on Soviet parade uniforms of Marshals, Generals, Admirals and such but don't know what it is off hand. Again just search and you'll come up with it. I believe it's (it was?) connected to the book on the same subject which is well worth getting IMHOP by the way.

And I totally agree... you MUST be careful with these things as there are now a ton of reproductions and fakes out there. I've seen folks convert original pieces say by sticking the metal scrambled eggs on the brim or even on the cap itself! Same goes for uniforms. They change insignia, pop ODM's, etc., on them to make them look more impressive and try to sell them for a small fortune. Even if they're cheap if they're messed with the best that can be hoped for is to restore them to their original condition with the proper insignia, etc. So unless one is looking for such a project be careful, do your research, get references, look at original examples in person if at all possible and by all means double check with your fellow GMIC members for advice and a (hopefully) thumbs up before you spend your hard earned money.

Dan

Chief Petty Officers (CPO's) would have had a different cap badge and a black plastic chin strap instead of the gold chin cords.

Enlisted men and other Petty Officers would have worn these:

http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_04_2010/post-873-12708194705.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_04_2010/post-873-127081949375.jpg

Here's a site showing the various types of Soviet naval headgear:

http://www.undertheredstar.com/navy.htm

Hope this helps.

Dan

Admiral (flag officer) caps:

http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_04_2010/post-873-127081910635.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_04_2010/post-873-127081915732.jpg

I believe this one would have been from Jr. Lt. up through Captain Lt. Here's a rank chart:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_ranks_of_the_Soviet_Union

Captain 3rd Rank up to Captain 1st Rank would have scrambled eggs on the brim of the cap, and flag officers would have more such embroidery on the brim.

http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_04_2010/post-873-127081869171.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_04_2010/post-873-127081881635.jpg

Black caps for fall/winter and white for spring/summer.

Soviet naval officers cap... 1960's to the end of the SU I believe. Junior officer ranks. Hope this helps.

Dan

I don't know the first patch... something to do with nuclear submarines.

I believe the one in post 2 would be worn on the shoulder boards and would signify what fleet the individual was assigned to.

The one in post 3 is an officers command badge for submarines. If it were in gold instead of silver it would be for Admirals.

The ones in post 4 are Naval trade badges... something to do with torpodoes and mines I believe. I believe those wHopinould have been worn on the sleeve of the blue jumper on your last post. But only one of them at a time to signify the specialty/trade the individual was working in. I'm not sure what the difference in the color signifies.

Hoping other more knowledgeable members will pop in here and confirm if I'm correct and give more details.

Hope this helps.

Dan

I took the liberty. I also rotated the first pic to the correct position. Hope it helps. The other separate thread can now be deleted.

Dan

These are oustanding gents! I just knew we all still had a bunch of such goodies hidden away in dusty corners. Keep em' coming!

Dan