Kev in Deva

Hallo Gentlemen, while staying at my parent-in-laws for a few days renovating their appartment in the "BLOCK", located in CUGIR, Alba County and ("home of the Romanian Kalaskikov manufacturing industry!"). I was given this insignia, the person who gave it to me knows nothing about it at all. The item comes in two pieces and fastens together like a press stud, on the stud the word "CADI" is marked twice in capitals. To the front is a crown over a five pointed star with a centeral emblem of a red cross on a white background, passing to the left and right are two crossed staffs with entwined snakes, a well known emblem for medicine / Doctors etc.. The catch, of the press stud (for the want of a better word, a snow-shoe shape( is made of a bronze plated metal) and I presume to fix it to the clothing the material of the shirt or jacket, with a small hole, was caught between the two, and held in place. It measures: Insignia, off the catch 29mm X 17mm. and clipped together weighs 5 grams. Any information or help would be welcome. Kevin in Deva.

Hallo Ulsterman Thanks for the info, nothing like fixing things in the right place with cold hard facts and blowing away the fog of myth any one else care to comment Kevin in Deva,

Hi Scot "We" know they are poor fakes, the question is where will they eventually end up, some of these things travel very long distances in a short space of time, thankfully we belong to the GMIC Forum, online "Fakemedalbusters" ( Who ya gonna call ?...Fakemedalbusters GMIC) and the dread of all dodgy medal dealers in the Universe Kevin in Deva.

Hallo Gentlemen Just a quick comment wasn't Hitlers BlackWound Badge got because of the effects of Gas poisoning he picked up as a runner?? I read somewhere that was the main reason he wouldn't allow the Germans to use Gas in combat WW2 because he understood the effects!! I have also read that he was recommended for the EK2 only but felt slighted because his CO who was Jewish had purposely reccomended him for a lesser award out of spite, so after WW1 he upgraded himself to a EK1. Can anybody confirm for sure which he was officialy recommended for Kevin in Deva

Hallo purveyors of the Helige Eisene Kreuz Take alook at whats now being peddled on Ebay: http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewIt...DME:B:WNA:DE:73 Scarey or what EVEN MORE SCAREY: http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewIt...DME:B:WNA:DE:74 Kevin in Deva.

Hallo Rick, Black enamel is clearly visible in the picture used, but in the description in the book for item number: 3387. it states what I wrote above, strangely there is no mention of black enamel (was J?rg having a bad hair day??) Kevin. PS maybe Stefan piece has had all the enamel removed??

FOR STEFAN its the one on the left Kevin in Deva,

Hallo Chip Go back quick and see if he has another like this for mee, pretty pleeease with sugar on it Just lurv Bavarian Blooo Kevin in Deva

Hallo Stefan , Page 453 of Orders And Ehrenzeichen by J?rg Nimmergut. Catalog of 2004 / 2005 shows a similar piece (3387). DESCRIPTION ON PAGE 457 Freikorps: DEUTSCHRITTER-KREUZ, 1919. I Class, Steckkreuz Br. vs/vg 180,- Br = Bronze, vs/vg = silver or gold gilt. 180,- = Price 180 Euro. Kevin in Deva,

Hallo George the "swaz" is about face as well Nearly all so called Japanese Military swords and Samuri swords on Ebay are very cheap and nasty copies out of China, but idiots still insist on buying them The chinese must be laughing all the way to the bank. Kevin A. Ryan

Glad to help, anytime,

WoW Dan those pieces are great looking so hijack away , I have never come across anymore since I got that one, your ones in Bronze/Brass are really nice are the very collectable or command a slightly lower price because they are 1 piece?? forgive my ignorance on the subject As to the material I have no idea, but its not lead or zink, could it be the same stuff as yours painted / plated?? Kevin in Deva

Another shot to confirm my suspicions this time on a Romanian Bar. Kevin in Deva

Front shot

More pictures, if I make them smaller all detail gets lost Kevin in Deva

Hallo Gentlemen I have had this piece in my collection for about 4 years now, it is one of my very first EK 1914 II Class pieces, and its a strange one, bought at a flea-market in Bavaria, the ribbon is for sure a replacement and if I had a blacklight probably would glow as much as the landscape around Chernoyble, Russia. What got my attention was the silver rim did not seem to dull with time and with closer investigation I discovered the following: The cross itself is a one piece casting, no idea what the material is, but it weighs 22grams. The measurements are 43mm, left to right arms. 42.5mm top to bottom arms (without ribbon ring and fixing). There are no makers marks at all. Upon close examination it can be determined the black has been painted on. And on the "F.W." side, running top to bottom there is a hair-line mold-flaw running from about 4mm to the left of the ribbon ring mount, along the edge of the crown into the edge of the oak-leaf from the tip of the acorn, into the top of the "3" in 1813, then from the bottom of the "3" into the silver rim. I hesitate to use the word "Fake" or "Repro", but Jeweler's "replacement" springs to mind as the attention to detail is very good. I attach pictures accordingly and wait for your learned opinions. Kevn in Deva

Hallo Chris. I searched my Romanian reference files and found this picture, its 100% a Royal Romanian Civil Service award that has had the CC cypher of Carol I removed or covered over. Cyrilic was also used by Bulgaria If you need a bigger picture please PM your email address. Kevin in Deva.

Finaly I got a reply but for some reason his text / message disapears of the screen after a few seconds if your click real quick it does take you to more pictures showing the hakenkreuz in full glory. l my items add pictures You can see under site: http://www.setservice.net/rogrer.htm and http://www.setservice.net/viking2.htm Thank You the second link leads to all his nasty-nazi items. Kevin in Deva.

Well seems like the seller is in no rush to send pictures, so maybe he knows what we suspect "FAKE" of course if he bothers to reply all will be told. Kevin in Deva

Hallo "Coastie" a request for more pictures has been sent, I await reply with baited breath, thats what you get from eating good Romanian Garlic Just one question if the 1813 side is showing to the front then why would the "800" be visible surly this would be to the rear??

For you persusal and comments oh "conisours of the croix" http://cgi.ebay.com/JUNKERS-KNIGHTS-CROSS-...1QQcmdZViewItem Kevin in Deva, Another NICE EK 1870 item in Japan: http://cgi.ebay.com/Iron-Cross-1870-1st-Cl...1QQcmdZViewItem

Errr....... feel free to post pictures of my FAKE Para badge even though it is a fake its nice to ask first Kevin in Deva.