Guest valsente Posted May 30, 2005 Posted May 30, 2005 Hi guys,I've in my hands a beautiful "100 General Assaults Badge" but I'm not sure if it's real or fake. Could you help em? ThanksVal
Stogieman Posted May 31, 2005 Posted May 31, 2005 Hi Val, almost impossible to judge one of these from photos of this quality. But right off the bat......Number plate doesn't conform to "textbook" examplesNumber box seems "soft" and not as distinctly shaped as it should beInsert does not fit to wreath the way it should (look at gap at the end of the bayonet & Grenade on the left.Compare to this "75"
Stogieman Posted May 31, 2005 Posted May 31, 2005 Reverse:(also note the details of the obverse on the 75 as compared to your 100)
Robin Lumsden Posted May 31, 2005 Posted May 31, 2005 I've always wondered why the gold on these things usually seems to be 'worn' in the recesses and unworn on the highlights - ie the opposite from what you'd expect. They always look as if they have been lightly painted over with an almost dry gold paintbrush. I'd have expected the gold to be worn the other way round. The numbered 75 and 100 tank ones are often the same.
Stogieman Posted May 31, 2005 Posted May 31, 2005 Hi Robin, the "wear pattern" has naught to do with actual wear & use, but rather to a chemical reaction between the gilding and the zinc "kriegs-metal" base material. The term loosely associated with the phenomenon most often by collectors is "absorbed"..... However in reality, it is just the opposite.
Mike K Posted June 8, 2005 Posted June 8, 2005 Hi Valsente,I think your 100 GAB is a fair quality repro. The hinge and catch are not correct (compare carefully to Rick's 75 GAB image) and there appears to be casting "flash" down the entire reverse left hand side of the badge.Robin, I can only agrre with Rick in that the dark streaking is not wear, is is the finish turning colour (for whateber reason). My own JFS 75 GAB has only one tiny spot where the plating is chipped and the zinc basemetal is exposed, but the gold finish (a relatively thick plating) is dark streaked like Ricks. The plating is basically still 100% present, even in the darker streaked areas.RegardsMike K
Stogieman Posted June 10, 2005 Posted June 10, 2005 I'll try to resize some additional photos of authentic badges for examples. Once upon a time, I owned 4 of these at once! I always balked at the (real) 100's I found in Germany. Some sellers wanted the equivalent of an RK price!These are very tough badges to judge and collectors should use extreme caution when purchasing one!
Jacques Posted June 10, 2005 Posted June 10, 2005 Hi VAL,I think too that your is a repro. The class IV numbered GAB must look like exactly to Stogiemann one. As mentionned Mike, many details of your one do not match with the originals (Catch ,pin form, figures, rivets, Maker's mark , eagle details, wreath, color).
Jacques Posted June 10, 2005 Posted June 10, 2005 Thanksthe badge has been in my collection for several years, and it will stay jumping , with its hollow comrade jacques
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